"Parti Yorkies" What's your opinion

[livingdustmops]

Originally Posted by Breezeaway

I have posted my findings on the webpage. You can see it here

BooHoo ...link doesn't work for me.

[Breezeaway]

I see that, does YT block web addresses? Ill post it again, if it doesn't work pm me or go to the partiyorkshireterrierclub site under history.

Parti Yorkshire Terrier Club - The Parti History

[livingdustmops]

Originally Posted by Breezeaway

I see that, does YT block web addresses? Ill post it again, if it doesn't work pm me or go to the partiyorkshireterrierclub site under history.

Parti Yorkshire Terrier Club - The Parti History

Weird as it still won't go through but I did go through the backdoor...

Thanks and I am glad you got this posted.

[Breezeaway]

Ok, it is posted on my home website , Just click on my website link at the bottom. It will be under Parti history

[TammyJM]

Originally Posted by Breezeaway

Ahh come on now , Lets all play nice. I have a question, Who had the DNA testing done on the Parti's? Was it Gloria or someone else? How long did it take? Anyone?

She said that it took about 18 months and no, Gloria was not involved in that aspect of it.

[livingdustmops]

Originally Posted by TammyJM

She said that it took about 18 months and no, Gloria was not involved in that aspect of it.

What actual years?

[Pinehaven]

Originally Posted by livingdustmops

What actual years?

I have a copy of an AKC letter, written to one of the 2 parties who were responsible for getting the parti's registered. The letter in part reads:

"After conduction research into the breed history and receiving information and photographs of the dogs contained in your dog's pedigree, it was determined that this color can be produced in otherwise normal litters of Yorkshire Terriers. It is the Committees decision to maintain the registration of the involved litters and their individual members."

This letter was dated June 26, 2000. Letter was signed by Jack Norton, special services department.

I guess that means the investigation would have started in early 1999, if it took 18 months.

[TammyJM]

Originally Posted by TammyJM

She said that it took about 18 months and no, Gloria was not involved in that aspect of it.

Actually. my post is incorrect. Gloria did DNA because of her having the sires, dams. grandsires, etc.

[livingdustmops]

Originally Posted by Pinehaven

I have a copy of an AKC letter, written to one of the 2 parties who were responsible for getting the parti's registered. The letter in part reads:

"After conduction research into the breed history and receiving information and photographs of the dogs contained in your dog's pedigree, it was determined that this color can be produced in otherwise normal litters of Yorkshire Terriers. It is the Committees decision to maintain the registration of the involved litters and their individual members."

This letter was dated June 26, 2000. Letter was signed by Jack Norton, special services department.

I guess that means the investigation would have started in early 1999, if it took 18 months.

Thank you..

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by Breezeaway

Nancy I too believe in a breeding standard, it may not be the same as yours but I do have a standard. I follow the Yorkshire standard except for the color which i happen to love the parti color. I do have parti's and I intend to keep having them and may they be the best parti color representative of them as they can be. Not all parti breeders are responsible breeders just like all traditional yorkie breeders are not responsible. Alot of The people you think are the most knowledgeable about the breed are the ones who are out for the money, they dont care as long as they sell their pups. I paid a handsome price for a parti, what I got was a parti that had tremors 2 days after i got her. Everything in my house was blamed for this , my water, my carpet(dont have any) chemicals , food, but it had to be something in my house it couldnt possibly be the breeders fault. Anyway what I am getting at it doesn't matter what color the dog is, it is the breeder and it is what the breeder represents that makes them a good breeder and a good representative of the breed. Me, I learned a hard lesson really quick. It wont happen again.

We are all trying very hard to stay with the standard except for the color. On Our CYTC...Our Mission site. We state that, except for color, we believe in the standard set by the YTCA.

There is a lot of information on that site concerning the parti color. But it is going to take time for breeders to work on their own programs.

The traditional yorkie was not built overnight and the parti won't be either.
It took years for them to get the standard to where it is today.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by Breezeaway

Nancy I too believe in a breeding standard, it may not be the same as yours but I do have a standard. I follow the Yorkshire standard except for the color which i happen to love the parti color. I do have parti's and I intend to keep having them and may they be the best parti color representative of them as they can be. Not all parti breeders are responsible breeders just like all traditional yorkie breeders are not responsible. Alot of The people you think are the most knowledgeable about the breed are the ones who are out for the money, they dont care as long as they sell their pups. I paid a handsome price for a parti, what I got was a parti that had tremors 2 days after i got her. Everything in my house was blamed for this , my water, my carpet(dont have any) chemicals , food, but it had to be something in my house it couldnt possibly be the breeders fault. Anyway what I am getting at it doesn't matter what color the dog is, it is the breeder and it is what the breeder represents that makes them a good breeder and a good representative of the breed. Me, I learned a hard lesson really quick. It wont happen again.

Deb. Mickey Spillane was the first registered parti colored yorkshire Terrier. He is the "father" to all parti yorkies coming from the Nikko line.

[yorkiegirl2]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

Deb. Mickey Spillane was the first registered parti colored yorkshire Terrier. He is the "father" to all parti yorkies coming from the Nikko line.

Jennie,

Is that what's on your AKC Pedigree papers ??

My AKC pedigree shows

Nikko's Mickey Spillane
TM83117303 (01-94) BL & TN

Mickey's son
Nikko's Great Expectations
TN63381401 (10-98) BLK & TN PRTI

Mickey 's daughter
Nikko's Golden Charm II was registered as a BLK & TN WH MRKS

[Pinehaven]

Originally Posted by Breezeaway

Nancy I too believe in a breeding standard, it may not be the same as yours but I do have a standard. I follow the Yorkshire standard except for the color which i happen to love the parti color. I do have parti's and I intend to keep having them and may they be the best parti color representative of them as they can be. Not all parti breeders are responsible breeders just like all traditional yorkie breeders are not responsible. Alot of The people you think are the most knowledgeable about the breed are the ones who are out for the money, they dont care as long as they sell their pups. I paid a handsome price for a parti, what I got was a parti that had tremors 2 days after i got her. Everything in my house was blamed for this , my water, my carpet(dont have any) chemicals , food, but it had to be something in my house it couldnt possibly be the breeders fault. Anyway what I am getting at it doesn't matter what color the dog is, it is the breeder and it is what the breeder represents that makes them a good breeder and a good representative of the breed. Me, I learned a hard lesson really quick. It wont happen again.

I apologize for having to reply to this post - I thought long and hard before hitting the submit button ...

but I don't think it will take a rocket scientist to figure out who you are referring to since you've only owned 1 parti female, so we'll nip this in the bud right here.

There are 2 sides to every story and sometimes, no matter how hard you try to please someone, they are just too difficult to work or reason with. You can't force someone to do something they choose not to do and you can't reason with an unreasonable person.

Up until now Deb, I've never said a negative thing about you to another breeder or yorkie fancier (other than someone who alerted me of problems that they had with you). Unfortunately, I have recentally learned that you've bashed my name and reputation privately, in talking to some colorful yorkie breeders, and now you are publicly trying to intimidate me by posting, everything but my name and address, in a post that is implying that I'm a "disreputable breeder."

Please answer a few questions ...

Why did you not send the pup back for a full refund (including your deposit) if you felt there was something wrong with her after she arrived? You could have returned her for a full refund, even if she had a hangnail.

Why did you not tell me of the problem, until 8 days after she left me?

Why would you not return her for an exchange puppy?

Why, when you told me you loved her and couldn't part with her but were afraid to breed her, and I offered to refund a portion of your money if you decided to spay her in the next 2 year - Why did you decline that offer?

Why, as the reputable breeder that you say your are; a breeder who's saying there is a problem with this dog, why did you advertise her for sale on your website and on puppyfind for $1000.00 more than you paid for her, just 2 months ago?

If it wasn't for another breeder, who had a similar experience with you, giving me the heads up that something like this might happen, months prior to the pup moving to KY, I would not have believed it could happen. It all makes me wonder what's really going on here?

So if you are going to bash my reputation privately among our fellow breeders and now on this not so private forum, please answer the questions above, many are questions that I had asked you before but never got a reasonable or logical answer to.

[Breezeaway]

This is not the place to discuss it, Did I mention any names? You do NOT know how many dogs I have. I did tell you on the phone just a couple of days after I got her, you blew it off that she was cold. YOU did not believe me until i had to send you videos. I do have the emails that you did and did NOT respond to. You told me to take her to a neurologist which you never once offered to help with. . I couldnt respond to you because you wouldnt answer my emails. I no where ever declined the offer of the spay refund, Your right there are 2 sides to every story and Im not going into it all on here.

[Pinehaven]

[QUOTE=Breezeaway;2864881]This is not the place to discuss it, Did I mention any names? You do NOT know how many dogs I have. I did tell you on the phone just a couple of days after I got her, you blew it off that she was cold. YOU did not believe me until i had to send you videos. I do have the emails that you did and did NOT respond to. You told me to take her to a neurologist which you never once offered to help with. . I couldnt respond to you because you wouldnt answer my emails. I no where ever declined the offer of the spay refund, Your right there are 2 sides to every story and Im not going into it all on here.[/QUOTE}

Maybe you shouldn't start battles that you're unwilling to fight.

I have all of our email correspondence posted on a website and I'm happy to share it with you if you need to refresh your memory?