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Old 06-22-2009, 04:16 AM   #91
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wow I can't believe how many dogs she goes through. I mean I see everyone saying scam scam scam. I understand. I was not falling for a "scam". I seen this dog up, and she looked so sad. I just thought I'd post it here to show everyone, theres people all over, maybe someone would of been able to convince this woman what she is asking is outrageous and help save this dogs life before she dies and her puppies die!

I already mentioned as well I was too afraid to take this one as I have no experience, if she wasn't pregnant I'd figure out a way to help her but being so tiny theres no way I want to have this on my back otherwise I wouldn't have posted it!

I have no idea how the U.S works so I don't even know if anything can be done. Maybe if she got about 100 harassing phone calls she would get scared? I am sure she would give her address out very easily if you say your interested in coming. Like I said this lady is sick! This is almost like the kind of lady I got my Stormy from. She had different pups, different ads and no parents. Some of these dogs that are being used like this deserve good homes as well, I can't say I regret getting my baby, I got her in the U.S as well and paid 500 because I wanted to help save her life and give her a good home she deserve. I am a big sucker for animals as I did some volunteering at our local H.S and I would of brought them ALL home, but the ones who were close to my heart were the neglected ones who just wanted to be LOVED!
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This woman is probably some sort of druggy and has found a for sure way to support her habit. The one thing I was thinking is that a bunch of people from here could call her and keep offering her a higher price then the person before. Then before you know it we've jacked the price up so high no one will buy any of them because she'll be holding out for the highest price. She'll accept one high offer and then another will come in even higher, she'll drop the lower one and go with the higher one. Then just keep going like that!! It would maybe shake her up and slow her down for a bit. Probably wouldn't work but I was trying to put my mind into some sort of scamming mode to get her back lol!
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This woman is probably some sort of druggy and has found a for sure way to support her habit. The one thing I was thinking is that a bunch of people from here could call her and keep offering her a higher price then the person before. Then before you know it we've jacked the price up so high no one will buy any of them because she'll be holding out for the highest price. She'll accept one high offer and then another will come in even higher, she'll drop the lower one and go with the higher one. Then just keep going like that!! It would maybe shake her up and slow her down for a bit. Probably wouldn't work but I was trying to put my mind into some sort of scamming mode to get her back lol!
or perhaps work in the opposite way, offer low ball offers.

I wonder if she has even delivered pups, maybe she knows the danger and wants to make some quick money before she LOSES both mom and babies?
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Are we sure this is not a scam??? Sounds like it to me!! I wonder if this person really has any dogs a all! And I am sorry, I love my Yorkie, but she is asking a lot of money for a dog that has no papers--are these really pics of her dog?
She says she saw the breeding but that she was just recently given the dog--doesn't make sense to me!
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Are we sure this is not a scam??? Sounds like it to me!! I wonder if this person really has any dogs a all! And I am sorry, I love my Yorkie, but she is asking a lot of money for a dog that has no papers--are these really pics of her dog?
She says she saw the breeding but that she was just recently given the dog--doesn't make sense to me!
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I'm sure she has dogs for sale, this is her business, buying dogs for probably much cheaper or even getting them free, trying to breed them and selling the dogs for outrageous prices.
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This is one of the great things about YT. Our hearts are big and want to reach out to help any little yorkie in need. But, then everyone starts putting their heads together and makes it pretty apparent that it's a scam. I just wish there was a way to scam her back some how.
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What if we gather all the "ads" she has placed and many of us call or email the human society or (who ever would be best in that area) and report the situation showing all the ads. At least if she is being reported and investigated that may slow down her actions or at least switch her actions to something other than animals. There has to be some agency that would be intrested in investigating this situation.
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We do have one person interested and I am wiling to make the trip, but I can not be any clearer. THIS SMELLS LIKE SCAM. Especially now that she has TWO! And of course, because she calls them Teacup.

I would urge the people near here or in the same state to contact Animal Control, Humane Society and her vet. Does anyone have the name of the vet yet? I would much rather go pick up the dog from the pound and bring it to someone who can then use the $1200 saved to pay for all of this dogs vet bills that are sure to follow. I would be willing to take both little girls back with me. Has anyone really seen two Yorkies fight and when they are pregnant on top of that???

Someone rescuing an animal does not charge for it. She was given both of these Yorkies? We all know there has been a rash of little dogs getting stolen? Please, someone in this state needs to confirm this is legit and its not a stolen dog, puppy mill or money hungry grub.
I TOTALLY agree with you! On the fighting part....yes...I have seen and heard of yorkies fighting....matter of fact the breeder where I bought both of my girls had to re-home 2 of her females because all they did was fight. One of them happened to be my Sadies sister. She had to keep the crated all the time because they fought so much....and they were brought up together. So...it does happen
I too think her vet should be called...Something just doesn't sound right to me here. And 1200.00 for a non-registered yorkie?? Fishy!
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this was NOT a accidental breeding, in her ad it says SHE BRED HER 3 TIMES TO HER MALE!! I have not read all the responses, I am going to go through them all right now but just wanted to make that clear. I just got home from work right now.

she may be saying shes firm on the price now because she has had more then 1 phone call, earlier she told me she was open to offers!

I am not too far from this girl, just over the border, if she worked out a decent price I would go and get her, I am just too afraid of the outcome, I have no experience with breeding yorkies, especially yorkies that are this tiny!
If you live that close why don't you take a little ride just to "look" at her...This way you will know for sure if she is being honest or if she's trying to scam people....something just isn't sitting right with me on this one.
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If cruelty or neglect is suspected, it can be reported here:
Macomb County Michigan : Health Department: animal

Because buying, selling and breeding dogs (of whatever size) is not illegal, I doubt it will do a bit of good. If she does have a kennel, there are certain laws that have to be followed but it isn't too hard and the penality isn't nearly enough anyway.

Any animal sent to AC in Macomb may be rehomed or euthanized at the discretion of the staff.
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I was just reading the ad again. Has it been updated a bit? At the end she says she has the name and number of the vet if anyone wants it. Any person could pose as a vet at that number (would have to do a search on the vet just to see). I like how she prefers cash, I guess that way there's no paper trail. The dog isn't registered and so again no paper trail. I think it's def. worth reporting just to have it investigated.
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Well here are the pictures of them tied: http://www.hoobly.com/0/0/914822.html

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Absolutely revolting!!! The worst part is, looks like the male is quite a bit larger than this little girl. Maybe this is really why she wants to sell her. If she can't have them normally and since this woman fits the description of a miller, she will not want to pay out any money on her. Bless her little heart, she looks so pitiful.
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At this point I really feel that there is nothing more that can be done. Personally, I would have rather not seen the pictures of the 2 dogs "tying". I made me want to cry and throw up all at the same time.Like I stated YESTERDAY she is a breeder and a PoS but what she is doing is not illegal. Hoobly.com is a horrible site that BYBer and low lifes post their pets for sale. It is IMO even worse that Kijii! I am not sure what any of this is proving. There is NOTHING that can be done more by any of us. She will continue to try to sell this poor little girl and her prices will continue to fall because she is not able to unload her pregnant yorkie on someone for a ridiculous amount of money. Look at the previous as, she has come down from $1500 to $1200 to $1000!

What everyone needs to look at is the bigger picture of the way that this country allows out pets to be treated like property. Old worn out shoes throw them away. Old worn out dog get rid of it. Can't house train no problem just slap an ad on a place like Craigtslist, Hoobly, Kijii! Fly under the radar and skirt around the rules. Then maybe a bunch of good harded people will be all up in arms for about 72 hours and make your life he!! but really what difference does it make. Sell that poor pup to some fool with a pocket full of $$$$ that feels bad. The millers will not pay that crazy price. They can sell at the auctions for about 1/10 and be done with her. Just that easy!

All of the effort for this pup would be better placed on phone calls to your legislators to make changes to the laws. Truth be told, she will be eventually sold to the lowest bidder and then probably bred to death.

She is unregistered so there is no tracing back to whomever sold her to be bred in the first place. What I think that everyone needs to think about is the lesson that is learned here.

When you purchase that cute little yorkie and decide that you would like to have puppies THIS is what could and many times does happen down the road. You have no control over what happens when those puppies leave your home. If you are breeding and allowing those cute little puppies out of your hand they could end up just like this little girl. If you do not think it is possible you are sadly mistaken! There are people that come here to YT all of this time looking for advice on breeding or their pregnant pups. I am just appalled a the amount of knowledgeable AND irresponsible breeding going on! Everyone that is reading this thread and is so appalled by this situation stop and think about how this little girl got into this woman's hands.

We need to all stop linking these finding to this thread. Like someone else stated all it is doing is bumping it up to the top of google searches and givign free advertising for this horrible person and allowing her to make more money off of this poor puppies back.

One last thought here and that is in the future we should all vow to not give the free advertisement to people like this. I also think that ADMINISTRATION needs to close this thread so it does not go any further. Enough is enough already! I am begging someone to close this and consider any further postings like this be stopped in the future. I have said this before and I will say it again. YT will become know in the dark side of breeding a great place to promote horrible breeding if we are not careful of what we are linking to this site. This entire thing is very sad and disturbing IMO!
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I agree Jodi, That face, So Sad and that male is too big. This just make me want to throw up.....I feel so bad for that female.
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