The jury is still out............

I absolutely agree and she'll be put on a plane and returned home as soon as the seller is ready to do what is right and refund us. We aren't a payday loan center. Why should we be stiffed with the bill here when we aren't the ones that did anything wrong other than trust the word of the otherwise seemingly reputable seller. If only the person that returned Emma the first time around had stood up and said something we would have been properly informed and this wouldn't have happened to a second family.

I wasn't taking a position but I have to agree with you. If I put myself in your shoes. You just wanted to add another baby to your family. You would expect to get the truth about a baby. You spent alot of money to get just the right one. It is really sad. I would be mad too if I were you as I have children also and a smaller yorkie. It's just not the idea of not the right fit it's a real problem for your children and your little one. I'm so sorry this didn't work out for you. I'm sure there is a little one out there that is right for your family. This one was clearly not. I also agree that that is not the same dog in the picture imo. They do change, yes, but come on not that fast, 1 month, no way. To insinuate that you are mistreating this little one is just not fair. Just look at the hair on the chest. it's golden in the first picture and black in the second one. And that's not mud come on!! I think you were duped. Next time go look at the dog with your kids and make a decision. I know hindsight is 20/20. Good luck!!

You sound like a decent person that made a bad choice. No I dont think buying a grown dog on the internet is wise at all especially when small children are involved.Unless you visit the dog first. But what should happen now is a 100% refund and a one way ticket back . This dog must not be sold but given to a person that has no children and no pets.In the wrong hands this poor dogs fate is not good.

The black coloration on the bridge of the nose makes it seem that it would have to be a different dog. I know black coloration gets lighter, but gold hair on snouts don't turn black. Come on Seller, do what's right for Emma.

Did the OP get a new user??

No it's her husband's username.

i dont think the buyer or the seller deserves this dog. Your like children arguing over a toy. This is a living creature that needs love. Theres too much talk about money and not enough about the needs of the dog. The buyer should always see the dog before buying ,we all know that. Find a puppy in your own hometown and save the poor animal from travelling.

Yeah, it is a very real problem. Hindsight is always 20/20. Anyone IMHO would be just as upset if it were them. If it had changed that dramatically "I" would have expected her to not say "Yes, she looks exactly the same." but rather to send updated pictures and let us know. She knew that size was a concern for us with Teiya being so small. Nearly 2lb's is a huge difference. I'm just lost as to where to go from here. I really don't want it to go down this road but if she isn't willing to take ownership of this I have no other choice than to lie down and take it or persue legal recourse, and I cannot lie down and take it, though I feel deeply for Emma, on one hand I feel so bad and on the other I didn't put her in this situation and it doesn't make me feel any less bad for her, but it does help me to not feel guilty about whatever we have to do to resolve this even though it will impact emma to goto another home.

Update?
 

So, what is going on? I got to page 10 and had to stop - nothing new is being said anyway.

It's a different dog, no question, or at least a terribly misrepresented dog by using a really old photo for the ad (I think it's a different dog). In my experience, lighting can make a HUGE difference - more lighting can make the hair appear fuller and lighter, but that's not the same dog.

Are you guys working something out or are you looking for a new home for her? I would love the opportunity to help in any way I can. - Like findhing her a new home, etc.

Honestly, as a breeder, I would refund every cent and drive to Florida to pick her up if there were a problem. Especially with an adult Yorkie, a good fit in a new family is a MUST. We have rehomed a few older Yorkies, and always there was the expectation that if for ANY reason it didn't work out, we would happily take the Yorkie back and find it a new home - I want to know where all of our babies are, how they are being cared for, who they are with, etc. Personalities with older Yorkies can be tricky when you take them out of their normal environment, so a breder should always spend a lot of time in making the right family choice when rehoming a Yorkie.

Anyway, I've thrown in my two cents.

Here's an example of how lighting can make a Yorkie look different - same dog, one outside with natural light and one inside under bright lights with a flash - taken about 6 days apart.

Ok I am a new member and I have been keeping up on this all day.I had to take my little guy Jasper in for his second shots today and came home and got back on.I am so worried about what is going to happen to this little girl,man if I had that money I would just buy her from you,get her fixed and let her live the rest of her life with me but sadly I don't have that kind of money.All I have is the love of a furbaby who needs a forever home which at this time she doesn't have.I would take her in a heart beat and train her as I have all my others.Like I said before all my dogs are rescues except Jasper he is our only one who was bought from a breeder which Thank the Lord it was my Aunt who we knew very well that we got him from.I am telling you all I want is for this furbaby to find her a forever home so if anyone wants to loan me 1150 I would glady take her:) Maybe I will get a knock on the door and someone will hand me the money.I will be praying for this little girl to find a home she truely needs.
God Bless everyone involved and hopefully everything will be worked out.

I really understand the buyers points. Why should they take over $500 hit?
Any responsible reputable seller will always take their dogs back. This dog was clearly mis-advertised. All of this could of been avoided if the seller did the right thing in the first place. I feel the buyers are being more than fair.

I really do feel bad for Emma. But if we base the situation off of this I'd have gone to the animal shelter and I'd be taking in even more pets than we already do with avian rescue. It's just not the hard reality of things and I'm sorry if some of you don't like that. I hate to be a dick but if you feel so strongly put your money where your mouth is and adopt her. What we ALL want and what is realistic are two very different things. At some point in your life every single one of you have had to draw the line on selflessness. Call me selfish but I'm definitely no fool.

If you go the legal route I hope the judge will reqire the dog be spayed and proof be supplied to the judge in due time that it has been done.

I looked back at the photos. I think this is the same dog, (eyes and snout area look the same shape and size) - HOWEVER, I do think that the seller posted VERY, VERY Young photos of this dog - so misleading to me :(

I am sorry but I dont think this was nice. Yes the puppy deserves a loving home but the seller if a responsible breeder would be I would think more than willing to take her back to assure that this puppy go to a compatable home which unfortunately this one is not. That does not mean the buyer is a bad person it just seems that the poor little girl got off to a bad initial start with first home and didnt recover well before going to her second. Best of luck original OP I am on your side.

I totally agree with you!

The fact that so many people bounce back and fourth between this very subject and the use of he/she everywhere says just about everything that can be said regarding the subject of the mis-representation.

I agree with you 100% that you were mis-lead, not only with photo looks, but size too :(

This issue is easy to solve
 

Buyer............. fly to Florida
Seller .............give her a full refund
Buyer.............. fly back to Salt Lake and realize a good lesson learned and be glad it didn't cost you everything you paid....

Enough on this thread

Admin........ shut down this thread.......

John

It kills me to read that attacks from the Seller also regarding how she thinks she's being abused, neglected, and etc.

Teiya has about 2x's AT LEAST more clothes than I do (granted, I'm a guy, but still.)

They get fed the absolute best food that we can get our hands on.

My wife has and as intimately familiar with more dog grooming combs, brushes, and contraptions than your average female keeps in her aresenal.

The dogs have more hygeine products and shampoos, and body sprays, and dental, etc... than we do.

She sleeps in our bed, go everywhere with us.

Spare me the neglect and abuse, why she has her ears back in the picture outside is beyond me other than it's definitely not due to abuse and neglect. I offer up Emma scritches and all sorts of attention and equal treats to teiya, she just always wants teiyas too and will seriously stop at nothing to get it, she, just doesn't get it. It's sad she's so concerned with hording food, but we have always and still do free feed, it's not like she doesn't have her own or that she goes with out for ANY period of time.

It just outrages me to read her ignorant stabs at us and out integirty.

The other funny thing is that the dogs actually did goto a spa when we did because we didn't want to leave them home alone because teiya really misses her mommy so we wanted to try to keep her occupied.

OMG! That puppy is so adorable!

and on this mentality all of us would be broke. Unfortunately people tend to be opportunits, in general people just want to live and get along. but there are aneough people out there that if there weren't recourse for your actions would take us for everything that we have and this world would be a very sad place with a few happy well off people at the expense of everyone else. If no one stands up then we ultimately support this type of business ethics. We haven't gotten where we are as a race by turning the other cheek and being grateful that the didn't turn us around and kick us in the behind too.

I think it's a different dog and I also think it's complete crap how the seller sent e-mails/replied on here a few times trying to make the buyer feel sorry for her and trying to make everyone on here feel sorry for her too. Why bring up religion, it bothers me more than anything when someone selling a dog or really anything in general has to bring up that they go to church or believe in God.

Oh and another thing, if I were in this situation, I'd do the same thing with the dog when my dog was trying to eat.

I would also be highly pissed if the seller had already went and bought another dog. I wouldn't even want to hear any of her ignorant excuses as to why she did this. It would just make me that more determined to get my money back.

Hope it turns out in your favor and I'm so sorry.

I just have to interject that Gracie is one adorable little girl! I bet you have a hard time denying her anything! Seriously, she is beautiful.

Yeah, but you can still see the black on the Yorkies nose in both pictures. In the OP's situation, you can't.

yes I do agree it does look like two different dog's one being the ears are up on the first one and down on the other two pictures the hair is much lighter on the first pic and darker on the last two and the hair looks more oily on the last two I'm so sorry this happened to you..

Hi I don't believe they are the same dog at all. They have different coat textures, different structures & the one you have has hair missing on the top of her nose. If you cannot return her or want to keep her. I would right away start looking for a dog trainer before someone gets seriously hurt. I do believe with lots of work this can be dealt with, but you need a good trainer to help you learn how to control this behavior problem. Good luck. Please keep us informed on how she's doing.

Yup
 

That's basically what I was showing - there are differences in how light makes a Yorkie look, but you can still tell it's the same dog.

get a lawyer
 

stop her, so she can't do it to other people too. I agree the dog is cute but its not what she told her she was getting.:thumbup: