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03-10-2009, 01:47 PM | #46 |
Donating YT 500 Club Member | Sorry Michelle, fortunately you are not admin on this forum and this time the controversy can't be swept under a rug or ignored. I would encourage YT admin to allow the thread to continue and the truth to be told.
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03-10-2009, 01:49 PM | #47 |
Donating YT 500 Club Member | No, I posed my questions and reservations out on the open forum and when things weren't going your way, you threatened to close the forum. They were - see above.
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03-10-2009, 01:55 PM | #48 |
Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oklahoma
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| ???? Is this the place for this? OKYR never turns away a stray, surrender and we do check every shelter for Yorkies. You know that Jen...you went to the auctions with them. I'm sorry, I just think this could be discussed elsewhere. |
03-10-2009, 02:05 PM | #49 |
Donating YT 2000 Club Member | Maybe I'm naive, but most rescue organizations I know, rescue, do vaccinations, spay/neuter, micro-chip and place dogs. Yes, they make some money to cover their expenses and allow them to buy food, and make emergency trips to "get" a dog that might be on the kill list or in an auction. Why is this so controversial? Because puppy millers might be dumpting their puppies in the auctions?? I agree with bans on selling dogs in pet stores. That would eliminate 95% of the puppy mills. I know that when I have food my dogs don't like, or extra blankets and toys, I take them over to BARC which is an animal rescue and they are always appreciative. I contribute to any and all fund raisers for the biewers, because the bylaws state the dogs will be spayed and neutered. IMHO if the seller of the biewers to the auctions, or rescues can be identified, they need to be outted.... |
03-10-2009, 02:08 PM | #50 |
Donating YT 500 Club Member | You're right, I did go to several of the auctions, even though I had reservations. It was wrong to go and I'm sorry I participated when I did.
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03-10-2009, 02:10 PM | #51 | |
Resident Yorkie Nut Donating YT 20K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas
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Don't feel badly....you learned from the experience and maybe your story will encourage others not to enable the mills.
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03-10-2009, 02:47 PM | #52 |
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| Is anybody familiar with this outfit? puppymillrescue Home Page. I have followed this website for years, and I mean years. I cried and cried every time I went on that website and if I was in Missouri, I too would purchase every Biewer I saw in that auction. The mentality of people attending these auctions are different. They are millers and have only one thing in mind, to breed the you know what out of these dogs until it cannot be bred anymore. Study the history of puppymill auctions. Reputable breeders would not sell their dogs to millers but somehow they ended up there and it is now up to the breeders who specialize in their own breed to go in there and get them out. One dog at a time if that is what it takes. And it takes very special people to do this because it is heart breaking. Let me ask you this...how many of you out there attended and animal auction??? If you haven't, do yourself a favor and go to one. Than come back on this forum and say that rescue people should not be at these auctions. |
03-10-2009, 02:51 PM | #53 | |
Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Central Pennsylvania
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| Again... GREED! Quote:
By shutting down this thread it is another way of hiding the truth to some of the practices that organizations such as the mentioned. We all have a common interest here ~ the love of Yorkshires. I don't think anyone is coming out and saying those who are running this rescue are horrible people. It sounds like to me that everyone involved whether past or present got involved for the sake of helping rescue yorkies, again, for the love of this breed. Sadly, it is true that when a person sees the money to be made with this breed and especially Biewers. Greed comes to play. It may not happen immediately but as time goes on it becomes more addictive... the money that is. It is easy to say that you are providing great homes for them... but at what cost? You are clearing them out in order for the mills to replenish them. Ridiculous! You become a broker and nothing less. Or, on the other side, maybe just taking the trip for your own households... easier & cheaper to buy one there than from a legitimate breeder. Right? If I see a yorkie, lets say on craigslist being "adopted" out because the owner is in a jam and needs to rehome for a fee and then at the same time I hear of an older yorkie that has medical problems... I would automatically make a decision to save the one that chances are is going to be put down because no one wants to shell out the money to save this dog...hence "rescue" Taking a full days drive to buy a dog to resell is not a wise rescue move. I don't care how you slice the pie. You are putting money into the mills hands just the same as if you were to go to the petstore. It is irresponsible and very disrespectful to all those who do support the rescue both fostering and monetarily.
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03-10-2009, 02:55 PM | #54 | |
Resident Yorkie Nut Donating YT 20K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas
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I honestly do not understand that logic; and surely do not understand how you think that reputable breeders' dogs are the ones in the mills being bred.
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03-10-2009, 02:56 PM | #55 |
Donating YT 500 Club Member | I have been and while the thought of leaving dogs behind is heartbreaking, there really is no other good solution than to do so. When you buy dogs from the auctions it not only allows the breeder room to breed more dogs, they are also making money. At many of these auctions they are selling dogs for more money than a broker would pay them, so they are actually very profitable for the breeders. The breeders realize this and just breed more dogs. Andi said it best earlier, it's basically like a cheap pet store
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03-10-2009, 03:05 PM | #56 | |
Resident Yorkie Nut Donating YT 20K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas
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My thinking is to take the money donated to save yorkies and fly or drive to TX, OH, FL, or CA and pick up some shelter pups that are in need. These groups get large donations to fix the problems that the mills refused to pay for. I would prefer doing the above...using the money by getting the shelter pup from other areas where rescue groups are inundated. If there is a long list of adopters and no yorkies available .. gee, that in my opinion is wonderful! I hope the day comes when I don't see emails over and over and over again with yorkies in shelters. Then, no need for rescue..oh, what a wonderful day!
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03-10-2009, 03:14 PM | #57 | |
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03-10-2009, 03:16 PM | #58 | |
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I haven't been on yorkietalk for a few months but can recall several times when Yorkie trains are used to get a yorkie to a new home or foster. This is when I can see the money from the rescue organizations coming in to play. Not for hotel rooms and gas to drive a state away to acquire Yorkies or any other breed.
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03-10-2009, 03:19 PM | #59 | |
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03-10-2009, 03:23 PM | #60 | |
I love yorkie kisses Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oklahoma
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| I am not sure I understand the greed part. We do not have money, nor do we profit from the rescue. All the adoption fees pay for medical bills, no one gets a salary and everyone in our group pays their own gas and hotel (if necessary). Some of the younger ones help pay the medical bills for the older ones. The truth is we save yorkies. One at a time. Yes,we have some differences as to which home is best for our dogs. I said it in my earlier post. We go to auctions, we do not get involved in high bidding, we take the unwanted. We promise the dogs they will have a better life. I am sorry if some do not agree with this. That is your choice. OKYR does good things for our rescues everyday. I want to encourage everyone on YT to become a foster parent. start a rescue or donate your time. Do something to help these dogs. We are doing our best. We do not always agree in how to do it. Everyone has a choice in what they want to support or be a part of. If I was the dog, I would want OKYR to get me and not leave me there. Quote:
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