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red98vett · 08-31-2005, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCalyorkiLvr

Of Course...all of your points are good but if you compare the facilities and care of those who sell $500 pups to those who sell $1200 pups
I have seen a huge difference and it just makes sense that the nicer, cleaner facility has spent more money on the care of the babies and they have to ask more so as not to lose money.

What does it cost you to raise an average pup and provide it with the very best care? Taking into account his litter mates and his mother and father cuz some may have more health issues, etc.

No offense to any breeders here - I know most of you ...and you are NOT who this statement is about. I keep seeing how charging outrageous amounts is susposed to mean people get better yorkies - it bothers me.

I sure hope there are no breeders who see all this and think...."Hmmmmmmmmmm....I bet I can get another THOUSAND per puppy" That will just leave yorkies out of reach for many people if everyone thought that way. PEOPLE DO NOT have to be rich to own a yorkie - nor does a breeder need to be wealthy.

I know of a few sites that DO sell high priced yorkies - PAYING MORE does not mean you get better. Maybe with designer CLOTHES it means that- but not with yorkies - there are far too many good breeders who charge totally acceptable prices.

sylvan · 08-31-2005, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCalyorkiLvr

Now here can agree that ALL yorkies are gorgeous!

I for one cannot agree with that statement. All yorkies are not gorgeous, some of the poor quality bred specimens barely resemble yorkies and I think it's shameful to produce a dog so far from what it's supposed to be that it's hardly recognizable as a yorkie.
Yes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but some of these things make me want to poke my eye out.

You will never see me posting an awww, that's cute when it isn't. My compliments mean something when I say them. If you do post a cute dog and don't get a compliment from me...it doesn't mean I don't think it's cute, I just can't manage to post on every thread, 'cause I do have other things to do and sometimes miss them.

Albon is not expensive stuff that would require jacking a price up to cover the treatment. It just requires thoughtful caring concern from the breeders end. Sadly missing in many regardless of the price of the pups.

txshopper73 · 08-31-2005, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCalyorkiLvr

Of Course...all of your points are good but if you compare the facilities and care of those who sell $500 pups to those who sell $1200 pups
I have seen a huge difference and it just makes sense that the nicer, cleaner facility has spent more money on the care of the babies and they have to ask more so as not to lose money.

What does it cost you to raise an average pup and provide it with the very best care? Taking into account his litter mates and his mother and father cuz some may have more health issues, etc.

In my town, you can get a male starting at $500. It'll probably be as big as a horse, but it's possible. My friend got her male for $450 and he's always been healthy. Got a bit ole moose head but that's okay. This same breeder was charging $1000+ for females so she ended up coming out okay.

txshopper73 · 08-31-2005, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCalyorkiLvr

Now here can agree that ALL yorkies are gorgeous!

hehehe! Not necessarily true...I've seen some UGLY ones and think, ah, how sad!

sylvan · 08-31-2005, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by red98vett

No offense to any breeders here - I know most of you ...and you are NOT who this statement is about. I keep seeing how charging outrageous amounts is susposed to mean people get better yorkies - it bothers me.

I sure hope there are no breeders who see all this and think...."Hmmmmmmmmmm....I bet I can get another THOUSAND per puppy" That will just leave yorkies out of reach for many people if everyone thought that way. PEOPLE DO NOT have to be rich to own a yorkie - nor does a breeder need to be wealthy.

I know of a few sites that DO sell high priced yorkies - PAYING MORE does not mean you get better. Maybe with <a href="designer%20clothes" onmouseover="window.status='designer CLOTHES'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true;">designer CLOTHES</a> it means that- but not with yorkies - there are far too many good breeders who charge totally acceptable prices.

This brings up a subject I was just discussing with someone. What prevents me from Charging 3,4,5 thousand dollars for my pups? The quality of mine is equal to the others I see for those prices and jeez, I could probably get in the black a heck of a lot faster and maybe get a nice car and a bigger house. So why not? Ethics is the answer. IMHO it is unethical to ask for such a ridiculously overpriced amount of money, just so some status hungry person can brag that they got a 5,000. yorkie. I like my sleep and my mirror.

red98vett · 08-31-2005, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by sylvan

This brings up a subject I was just discussing with someone. What prevents me from Charging 3,4,5 thousand dollars for my pups? The quality of mine is equal to the others I see for those prices and jeez, I could probably get in the black a heck of a lot faster and maybe get a nice car and a bigger house. So why not? Ethics is the answer. IMHO it is unethical to ask for such a ridiculously overpriced amount of money, just so some status hungry person can brag that they got a 5,000. yorkie. I like my sleep and my mirror.

THANK you Sylvan - When I see these kind of posts I DO worry about the breeders that DON'T have ethics like you and many others do on this site.

I agree Breeders could charge more - but it sure doesn't mean a better yorkie because of it.

txshopper73 · 08-31-2005, 09:39 AM

one question that I always ask myself...why would I make purchasing a yorkie almost impossible for someone else to enjoy. My prices are set with the going rate in my area. I cannot see charing thousands for a dog. It doesn't seem right. True, I'd love to have that kind of money but I try to make it possible for those who really want a yorkie to have one. JMO

txshopper73 · 08-31-2005, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by red98vett

THANK you Sylvan - When I see these kind of posts I DO worry about the breeders that DON'T have ethics like you and many others do on this site.

I think you meant that you worry about breeders that don't have ethics unlike Sylvan and many others. LOL!

sylvan · 08-31-2005, 09:45 AM

I was just adding my 2 cents to Villettes not debating it. oh and yeah, still up on the high horse...I do have to admit a lie, I am not really fond of the mirror, but that's an outward thing tied to wrinkles and bad hair.

red98vett · 08-31-2005, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by txshopper73

one question that I always ask myself...why would I make purchasing a yorkie almost impossible for someone else to enjoy. My prices are set with the going rate in my area. I cannot see charing thousands for a dog. It doesn't seem right. True, I'd love to have that kind of money but I try to make it possible for those who really want a yorkie to have one. JMO

THANK YOU !! Now THAT is just what I've been feeling also - You said it way better than I did.

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Originally Posted by txshopper73

I think you meant that you worry about breeders that don't have ethics unlike Sylvan and many others. LOL!

OMG ! YES - on the post to Sylvan - That's what I meant !! lol - did I not say it right ? because THAT would be a BIG Boo-Boo !!

I went and re-read it three times and confused myself

- Breeders like Sylvan and our other members are for SURE the breeders with Ethics which is what I meant to say !!

sylvan · 08-31-2005, 10:01 AM

Here's a thought..and pardon me if we've gotton way off topic again...Ethical dilemma...Charge a insane amount of money for a pup to someone who wants the status. Deduct the fair price and donate the balance to rescue. Thoughts?

red98vett · 08-31-2005, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sylvan

Here's a thought..and pardon me if we've gotton way off topic again...Ethical dilemma...Charge a insane amount of money for a pup to someone who wants the status. Deduct the fair price and donate the balance to rescue. Thoughts?

Nice DREAM !! lol - I agree - that would be a wonderful way to seperate someone from their money that WANTS to pay tons - and help the ones that need it...I like it

lycansmom · 08-31-2005, 10:19 AM

I agree with sylvan however there are hobby breeders that have like 10 dogs that have litters all the time oh sure they only charge 1k per puppy but think about it say there are 3 pups per litter each female has 1 litter a year(usually more) that alone is 30k a year and just as wrong to me. Does anyone else agree.

crystalsmom · 08-31-2005, 10:24 AM

Nice Dream Sylvan lol Hey Brett, Crystal just got her first dress from Sue of
Le Pamerpered Pooch yt's Suzaroni and it's reasonable and beautiful - you
should give her a try!! he he . My babe has had coats for winter but never
a dress. Sue's site is under construction but the area with her dresses , I
think, is finished. She's on e-bay too. I would recommend highly!!!

red98vett · 08-31-2005, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by crystalsmom

Nice Dream Sylvan lol Hey Brett, Crystal just got her first dress from Sue of
Le Pamerpered Pooch yt's Suzaroni and it's reasonable and beautiful - you
should give her a try!! he he . My babe has had coats for winter but never
a dress. Sue's site is under construction but the area with her dresses , I
think, is finished. She's on e-bay too. I would recommend highly!!!

Can you post pictures ? Love to see them - Chanel & Cheri got their first dresses from a member here and they were just adorable...I'd love to see.

I know we're off topic here - SORRY !!!

08-31-2005, 09:39 AM	#112
txshopper73 Donating YT 14K Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 14,226 Blog Entries: 1	one question that I always ask myself...why would I make purchasing a yorkie almost impossible for someone else to enjoy. My prices are set with the going rate in my area. I cannot see charing thousands for a dog. It doesn't seem right. True, I'd love to have that kind of money but I try to make it possible for those who really want a yorkie to have one. JMO __________________ As always...JMO (Just My Opinion) Kimberley

08-31-2005, 10:19 AM	#118
lycansmom Luna_Bug's Chew Toy Donating YT Addict Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Tulsa Posts: 1,199	I agree with sylvan however there are hobby breeders that have like 10 dogs that have litters all the time oh sure they only charge 1k per puppy but think about it say there are 3 pups per litter each female has 1 litter a year(usually more) that alone is 30k a year and just as wrong to me. Does anyone else agree. __________________ "some people without brains do an awful lot of talking dont they?"

08-31-2005, 10:24 AM	#119
crystalsmom Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,946	Nice Dream Sylvan lol Hey Brett, Crystal just got her first dress from Sue of Le Pamerpered Pooch yt's Suzaroni and it's reasonable and beautiful - you should give her a try!! he he . My babe has had coats for winter but never a dress. Sue's site is under construction but the area with her dresses , I think, is finished. She's on e-bay too. I would recommend highly!!! __________________

08-31-2005, 09:45 AM	#114
sylvan YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Eastern PA Posts: 2,484	I was just adding my 2 cents to Villettes not debating it. oh and yeah, still up on the high horse...I do have to admit a lie, I am not really fond of the mirror, but that's an outward thing tied to wrinkles and bad hair.

08-31-2005, 10:01 AM	#116
sylvan YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Eastern PA Posts: 2,484	Here's a thought..and pardon me if we've gotton way off topic again...Ethical dilemma...Charge a insane amount of money for a pup to someone who wants the status. Deduct the fair price and donate the balance to rescue. Thoughts?