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crystalsmom · 08-31-2005, 05:29 PM

Brett, Villette (red98vett) was nice enough to make me this Avatar and you can see
my little gal in her first dress. Boy, do I like to tease you or what. I think there
were some very good points brought out by alot of people on this thread and we
all can learn from it.

Marie · 08-31-2005, 05:50 PM

Oh my gosh it took me around 2 hours reading this whole thread, very informative. I agreed everyone can has different views what a puppy mill is but we all are against them. We all want what is best for our pups. To me Gucci is more than a pet she is part of my family.

sylvan · 08-31-2005, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crystalsmom

Brett, Villette (red98vett) was nice enough to make me this Avatar and you can see
my little gal in her first dress. Boy, do I like to tease you or what. I think there
were some very good points brought out by alot of people on this thread and we
all can learn from it.

Joan, that is a cute dress, but I would have a hard time putting anything on such lovely silk. nice pics.

yorkieangel · 08-31-2005, 06:06 PM

Ok I have to say this......

Now suppose you were a good knowledgable breeder who provided healthy well cared for and properly di everything for your pups. You dogs were good quality with good backgrounds. You little female had 1 of the cutest pups in the world and you handraised it indoors and provided excellent proper care. Now you have 2 lady's who are both excellent canidates to be puppy parents . They both have basically the same qualifications and are both good people who will provide good homes. Now ... do you sell to the lady who is going to pay you $5000 or the lady who is going to pay you $500. And remember.. no adding details or more questions or anything, you only have the info I am giving you and can get no more info. at all.

Now I don't know about you guys but I have to say I would pick the $5000 lady. So while I truly understand the whole argument and feelings and reasons people are stating about prices.....Who in reality can blame someone who is an ethical breeder for taking the higher amount if someone wants to pay it to them???????

And by the way.....I'm hoping to find my next yorkie for $500.......

Francie · 08-31-2005, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yorkieangel

Ok I have to say this......

Now suppose you were a good knowledgable breeder who provided healthy well cared for and properly di everything for your pups. You dogs were good quality with good backgrounds. You little female had 1 of the cutest pups in the world and you handraised it indoors and provided excellent proper care. Now you have 2 lady's who are both excellent canidates to be puppy parents . They both have basically the same qualifications and are both good people who will provide good homes. Now ... do you sell to the lady who is going to pay you $5000 or the lady who is going to pay you $500. And remember.. no adding details or more questions or anything, you only have the info I am giving you and can get no more info. at all.

Now I don't know about you guys but I have to say I would pick the $5000 lady. So while I truly understand the whole argument and feelings and reasons people are stating about prices.....Who in reality can blame someone who is an ethical breeder for taking the higher amount if someone wants to pay it to them???????

And by the way.....I'm hoping to find my next yorkie for $500.......

Wow! You know a breeder who lets us tell HER/HIM what we are going to pay for their pup? There IS a God! Somebody get me a bus ticket!

Francie

sylvan · 08-31-2005, 06:35 PM

Easy, you sell your pup to the lady with the 5,000. You take your usually fee out for an excellent girl. Give 1,000 to the other lady so she can get a decent girl that you help her find and then donate the rest about 2,200 to rescue.

I love hypotheticals.

yorkieangel · 08-31-2005, 06:39 PM

LOL

No, I'm just trying to say ... Who can blame the breeder. A breeder can only get what someone is willing to pay and if the breeder is honest and raises her pups right and gives good care .... then why should they feel bad for whatever price they choose to charge. It's the purchaser who has the option to walk away or pay.

Let me say I am speaking decent breeders for this point. I in NO WAY am accepting or condoning bad breeders in any shape or form!

sylvan · 08-31-2005, 06:43 PM

You're right, sorry everybody, my prices just went up.

anybody want to pay me 5,000. for a pup?

yorkieangel · 08-31-2005, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sylvan

Easy, you sell your pup to the lady with the 5,000. You take your usually fee out for an excellent girl. Give 1,000 to the other lady so she can get a decent girl that you help her find and then donate the rest about 2,200 to rescue.

I love hypotheticals.

Honestly ? That's what you would really do? I can't imagine too many people just handing over thousands of dollars if they came by it honestly.
I'm not trying to be rude,

crystalsmom · 08-31-2005, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yorkieangel

Honestly ? That's what you would really do? I can't imagine too many people just handing over thousands of dollars if they came by it honestly.
I'm not trying to be rude,

She was only kidding!!!

sylvan · 08-31-2005, 06:49 PM

Yeah, hard to believe, and I'm certainly familiar with living on a budget, but I do donate from every pup sold to rescue now, and I wouldn't feel right about pocketing that much when the Actual, real life value of a good dog is so much less than 5,000. It's just not right.

yorkieangel · 08-31-2005, 06:51 PM

Ok how about this for a comparison.

Say someone makes Yorkie clothing....It cost them $5 to make aQUALITY Yorkie dress (including all expenses)but they sell it for $30. Are they a good businessman or a bad businnessman. If the dresses turn into the hot new fashion and every Star starts buying and people want to buy Mr. X's dresses and he raises the prices to $100 for that snazzy little dress that cost $5 to make... is he a bad man at that point or is he still a good businessman????

Francie · 08-31-2005, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sylvan

You're right, sorry everybody, my prices just went up

anybody want to pay me 5,000. for a pup?

Oh, thats just REAL big of you Sylvan...do I look like I'm born yesterday?

IT'S $10,000 OR NO DEAL AT ALL!!

Francie

yorkieangel · 08-31-2005, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sylvan

Yeah, hard to believe, and I'm certainly familiar with living on a budget, but I do donate from every pup sold to rescue now, and I wouldn't feel right about pocketing that much when the Actual, real life value of a good dog is so much less than 5,000. It's just not right.

LOL... I hear ya... I'm just always flapping my mouth for people's rights... don't mind me.

And like yourself , I donate also to rescue . Not only time but quite a bit monetarily

Joy 1 · 08-31-2005, 06:56 PM

This has been a great thread. I have enjoyed reading it. We all love our babies....I know that for a fact!!!!! Goodnight all!!!!
Joy

08-31-2005, 05:29 PM	#151
crystalsmom Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,946	Brett, Villette (red98vett) was nice enough to make me this Avatar and you can see my little gal in her first dress. Boy, do I like to tease you or what. I think there were some very good points brought out by alot of people on this thread and we all can learn from it. __________________

08-31-2005, 05:50 PM	#152
Marie Mom loves Gucci Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 6,427	Oh my gosh it took me around 2 hours reading this whole thread, very informative. I agreed everyone can has different views what a puppy mill is but we all are against them. We all want what is best for our pups. To me Gucci is more than a pet she is part of my family. __________________ Huggies, Gucci and Marie http://www.dogster.com/?132187 "I have been egged"

08-31-2005, 06:06 PM	#154
yorkieangel Rescue Angel Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: md Posts: 1,530	Ok I have to say this...... Now suppose you were a good knowledgable breeder who provided healthy well cared for and properly di everything for your pups. You dogs were good quality with good backgrounds. You little female had 1 of the cutest pups in the world and you handraised it indoors and provided excellent proper care. Now you have 2 lady's who are both excellent canidates to be puppy parents . They both have basically the same qualifications and are both good people who will provide good homes. Now ... do you sell to the lady who is going to pay you $5000 or the lady who is going to pay you $500. And remember.. no adding details or more questions or anything, you only have the info I am giving you and can get no more info. at all. Now I don't know about you guys but I have to say I would pick the $5000 lady. So while I truly understand the whole argument and feelings and reasons people are stating about prices.....Who in reality can blame someone who is an ethical breeder for taking the higher amount if someone wants to pay it to them??????? And by the way.....I'm hoping to find my next yorkie for $500.......

08-31-2005, 06:35 PM	#156
sylvan YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Eastern PA Posts: 2,484	Easy, you sell your pup to the lady with the 5,000. You take your usually fee out for an excellent girl. Give 1,000 to the other lady so she can get a decent girl that you help her find and then donate the rest about 2,200 to rescue. I love hypotheticals.

08-31-2005, 06:39 PM	#157
yorkieangel Rescue Angel Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: md Posts: 1,530	LOL No, I'm just trying to say ... Who can blame the breeder. A breeder can only get what someone is willing to pay and if the breeder is honest and raises her pups right and gives good care .... then why should they feel bad for whatever price they choose to charge. It's the purchaser who has the option to walk away or pay. Let me say I am speaking decent breeders for this point. I in NO WAY am accepting or condoning bad breeders in any shape or form!

08-31-2005, 06:43 PM	#158
sylvan YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Eastern PA Posts: 2,484	You're right, sorry everybody, my prices just went up. anybody want to pay me 5,000. for a pup?

08-31-2005, 06:49 PM	#161
sylvan YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Eastern PA Posts: 2,484	Yeah, hard to believe, and I'm certainly familiar with living on a budget, but I do donate from every pup sold to rescue now, and I wouldn't feel right about pocketing that much when the Actual, real life value of a good dog is so much less than 5,000. It's just not right.

08-31-2005, 06:51 PM	#162
yorkieangel Rescue Angel Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: md Posts: 1,530	Ok how about this for a comparison. Say someone makes Yorkie clothing....It cost them $5 to make aQUALITY Yorkie dress (including all expenses)but they sell it for $30. Are they a good businessman or a bad businnessman. If the dresses turn into the hot new fashion and every Star starts buying and people want to buy Mr. X's dresses and he raises the prices to $100 for that snazzy little dress that cost $5 to make... is he a bad man at that point or is he still a good businessman????

08-31-2005, 06:56 PM	#165
Joy 1 Chloe's Mommy Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,016	This has been a great thread. I have enjoyed reading it. We all love our babies....I know that for a fact!!!!! Goodnight all!!!! Joy