I am disgusted by this

[phfgkl]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

That why it's important to do more than check out a list. Just because someone is a member of the YTCA, it doesn't mean I would buy a dog from them.

I agree. this lady was like at the top of maltese breeders, you should have seen where she lived, it was terrible. but, live and learn, I learned a lot after that experience. If someone else would have had this little girl, she probably never would have made it, and it ended up costing me an arm and leg having to take her in to the emergency vet on Xmas Eve.

[shirlblack]

Originally Posted by phfgkl

I read that, isn't it funny, the maltese breeder I got mine from was on a list of reputable breeders in NC when I got mine 6 years ago. I know she couldn't have even been 5 weeks, less 6 like she told me she was.

I usually don't jump into these kind of threads that turn into nothing but arguments but why do you keep stressing the fact that your Maltese came form a bad breeder in NC? There's bad breeders in every state, not just here!

[Ladymom]

Originally Posted by phfgkl

I read that, isn't it funny, the maltese breeder I got mine from was on a list of reputable breeders in NC when I got mine 6 years ago. I know she couldn't have even been 5 weeks, less 6 like she told me she was.

I have lived in North Carolina for 14 years. There are no breeders in North Carolina on the American Maltese Association's Breeder Referral list nor were there when you got your Maltese.

http://www.americanmaltese.org/2007_..._List_2008.pdf

Care to share what list you are talking about?

[Ladymom]

Originally Posted by phfgkl

I agree. this lady was like at the top of maltese breeders, you should have seen where she lived, it was terrible. but, live and learn, I learned a lot after that experience. If someone else would have had this little girl, she probably never would have made it, and it ended up costing me an arm and leg having to take her in to the emergency vet on Xmas Eve.

There are not and never have been "top" Maltese breeders in North Carolina.

[jexxie]

Just to be clear my male I rehomed, for a fair adoption fee, was 2 years old. The person I sold him to told me she was going to have her female fixed in 2 weeks. She then told me that she caught them tied and she didn't even know her dog was in heat. I understand how you may think it is partially my fault because he wasn't fixed, but at the low adoption fee I got ($175) and driving an hour and a half, I would think that the new owner could be a responsible one and pay to have him fixed herself, or atleast have her female fixed like she said she was going to. Had I known that I was going to be so childishly attacked for sharing something with this community, I would have kept my mouth shut. Up until now, everyone has been very friendly and helpful. And besides all the BS, my concern wasn't that she had bred her female. That's her business and I can't help what goes on there.. my concern was she was letting the pups go at 6 wks. I, as a concerned yorkie parent, emailed her and told her she should not let them go at 6 weeks and she agreed to keep them until 9. As I said previously, I KNOW they shouldn't leave before 12 weeks, but 9 weeks is alot better than 6. Atleast they will be fully weaned. I however am not going to accept responsibility for what she does with her pups just because my male wasn't fixed. You all are entitled to your own opinions........but I'm sure that somewhere in the mix theres a dog somewhere sitting in a shelter that has came from one of your lines. Do you hold yourselves accountable for that too? It is out of my hands now, I can only hope she does the right thing. So, that being said, I guess YorkieTalk was good while it lasted and I shall now find another site that isn't going to attack me, to share my feelings with..

[bchgirl]

AKC requires their breeders to keep all puppy breeds until they are 8 weeks of age.

Given the fact all of my dogs go happily into their crates on their own...I'd say speaks volumes.

Another side note - the woman's ad now says 8 weeks...not 9.

[Ladymom]

Originally Posted by jexxie

Just to be clear my male I rehomed, for a fair adoption fee, was 2 years old. The person I sold him to told me she was going to have her female fixed in 2 weeks. She then told me that she caught them tied and she didn't even know her dog was in heat. I understand how you may think it is partially my fault because he wasn't fixed, but at the low adoption fee I got ($175) and driving an hour and a half, I would think that the new owner could be a responsible one and pay to have him fixed herself, or atleast have her female fixed like she said she was going to. Had I known that I was going to be so childishly attacked for sharing something with this community, I would have kept my mouth shut. Up until now, everyone has been very friendly and helpful. And besides all the BS, my concern wasn't that she had bred her female. That's her business and I can't help what goes on there.. my concern was she was letting the pups go at 6 wks. I, as a concerned yorkie parent, emailed her and told her she should not let them go at 6 weeks and she agreed to keep them until 9. As I said previously, I KNOW they shouldn't leave before 12 weeks, but 9 weeks is alot better than 6. Atleast they will be fully weaned. I however am not going to accept responsibility for what she does with her pups just because my male wasn't fixed. You all are entitled to your own opinions........but I'm sure that somewhere in the mix theres a dog somewhere sitting in a shelter that has came from one of your lines. Do you hold yourselves accountable for that too? It is out of my hands now, I can only hope she does the right thing. So, that being said, I guess YorkieTalk was good while it lasted and I shall now find another site that isn't going to attack me, to share my feelings with..

You're a breeder, right? Please just take away a valuable lesson from this experience. Reputable breeders spay and neuter adults before they are placed in pet homes. The new owner is expected to pay the cost of the spay or neuter, updating shots, etc.

[PrincessDiana]

Originally Posted by bchgirl

AKC requires their breeders to keep all puppy breeds until they are 8 weeks of age.

Given the fact all of my dogs go happily into their crates on their own...I'd say speaks volumes.

Another side note - the woman's ad now says 8 weeks...not 9.

Where does it say that? I looked all over their website and couldn't find it. I must have missed it somehow..

[LoveMyJake]

You should have considered a spay/neuter clause in your contract....did you have a contract?

You really can't say anything if you didn't.

[bjh]

Originally Posted by jexxie

Just to be clear my male I rehomed, for a fair adoption fee, was 2 years old. The person I sold him to told me she was going to have her female fixed in 2 weeks. She then told me that she caught them tied and she didn't even know her dog was in heat. I understand how you may think it is partially my fault because he wasn't fixed, but at the low adoption fee I got ($175) and driving an hour and a half, I would think that the new owner could be a responsible one and pay to have him fixed herself, or atleast have her female fixed like she said she was going to. Had I known that I was going to be so childishly attacked for sharing something with this community, I would have kept my mouth shut. Up until now, everyone has been very friendly and helpful. And besides all the BS, my concern wasn't that she had bred her female. That's her business and I can't help what goes on there.. my concern was she was letting the pups go at 6 wks. I, as a concerned yorkie parent, emailed her and told her she should not let them go at 6 weeks and she agreed to keep them until 9. As I said previously, I KNOW they shouldn't leave before 12 weeks, but 9 weeks is alot better than 6. Atleast they will be fully weaned. I however am not going to accept responsibility for what she does with her pups just because my male wasn't fixed. You all are entitled to your own opinions........but I'm sure that somewhere in the mix theres a dog somewhere sitting in a shelter that has came from one of your lines. Do you hold yourselves accountable for that too? It is out of my hands now, I can only hope she does the right thing. So, that being said, I guess YorkieTalk was good while it lasted and I shall now find another site that isn't going to attack me, to share my feelings with..

Please do not take offense by the remarks of a few frustrated people. There are many good people on this forum and you just got caught up in a on going debate. I know you did what you felt was best.

[bchgirl]

Originally Posted by PrincessDiana

Where does it say that? I looked all over their website and couldn't find it. I must have missed it somehow..

There is a list of pdf's available for reading. It's in there. It also states SMALL breed puppies should remain until they are 12 weeks old.

[jexxie]

I had ONE litter of pups so NO, I wouldn't call myself a breeder. The male I rehomed DID NOT come from my litter. He was a rescue dog and didn't get along with my male rat a poo that I have. And being that I've had my rat a poo since he was a tiny pup I felt it was only right to rehome the male yorkie. I only had the male yorkie for 4 months and he was 1 1/2 yrs old or so when I got him. When I got him he wasn't fixed either. So think whatever you want to. Had he been mine as a pup, he woudln't have left my house unaltered. But, as I said, he was a rescue dog. The only reason I charged a rehoming fee for him was because I wasn't about to give him away..who knows where he would have ended up. Anyone would take a free dog.. Epsecially a yorkie.

[jexxie]

And also, NO I didn't have a contract in writing. As I said, she told me she was going to have her female fixed. So yes, my bad, I should have got it in writing. I just felt that they would provide him with a good home, which I feel he is getting. Hopefully the pups will go to good loving homes as well. Although I don't agree with what she is doing, I know my dog is getting well taken care of. She has kept in contact with me consistenly and sends me pictures of him all the time. She could very well have been planning on having her female fixed, as she only had my male for two weeks when they tied.. All I know is I was upset about the pups leaving so young. That's it. And frankly I'm over this conversation. My hands hurt from typing and I don't really feel the need to explain myself any further.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by jexxie

I had ONE litter of pups so NO, I wouldn't call myself a breeder. The male I rehomed DID NOT come from my litter. He was a rescue dog and didn't get along with my male rat a poo that I have. And being that I've had my rat a poo since he was a tiny pup I felt it was only right to rehome the male yorkie. I only had the male yorkie for 4 months and he was 1 1/2 yrs old or so when I got him. When I got him he wasn't fixed either. So think whatever you want to. Had he been mine as a pup, he woudln't have left my house unaltered. But, as I said, he was a rescue dog. The only reason I charged a rehoming fee for him was because I wasn't about to give him away..who knows where he would have ended up. Anyone would take a free dog.. Epsecially a yorkie.

I hesitate to respond because I get soo tired of people accusing me of attacking them. I disagree with you and your excuse for not having him altered. I believe it makes no difference whether you get a newborn puppy or a rescue; you are responsible for that dog, and the dog's offspring. I understand that rehoming is sometime necessary, but great pains should be taken to find the proper home, and an adult should always be altered before being placed. I'm not yelling at you for not doing it this way, I'm saying I hope in the future you look at it differently, and I hope other people reading this will consider what I'm saying. This forum is about education, and sometimes the written word sounds harsh, but you can learn something here. You do sound like a caring person. Many breeders have gotten burned, but I hope you have learned a lesson.

[beba695]

Does this mean I got mine way to early?? I got her when she turn 8 weeks, got her from a place in Missouri paid 600 for her plus 250 for the flight to CA. I need help with training and she's a bit aggressive sometimes when u play with her. Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

Chloe's momma