designer pups...???

[Odie in London]

Originally Posted by yorkieisme

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Yes I know I have a guard/lap yorkie too. When we are alone he will bark his face off if there is a fly on the wall..lol But in all honesty, I couldn't imagine breeding a yorkie with a doberman that just isn't right

[yorkieisme]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

I agree, but would at least *hope* that type breeing was an accident, but it wouldn't surprise me.
I think that generally speaking, that most of the time cross breeding these 'designer dogs' is an easy way out for unscrupulous breeders. It's easy to justify breeding when you don't have anyone to answer to--no set standards to worry about meeting, no hassles with having to keep records for registrations, no paperwork to worry about, etc...just attach a cute name to it, show a cute pup because let's face it--ALL puppies are cute. Problem solved.

Well said and I agree. ( i just love these little smilies)

[yorkieisme]

Originally Posted by Odie in London

Yes I know I have a guard/lap yorkie too. When we are alone he will bark his face off if there is a fly on the wall..lol But in all honesty, I couldn't imagine breeding a yorkie with a doberman that just isn't right

Yeah I agree also. I'm glad to see that you saw what I posted, because it didn't show up.

[Woogie Man]

[QUOTE=ButterflyKisses;2217743] You can get several different looks within one litter - and I've found that certain mom's put out certain looks. So my little Maltese mom that had mainly black Morkie babies - not what I aimed for - will not have any more Morkie puppies, while a different little Maltese mom has exactly the color I am looking for the two times she had Morkie babies. I have found that over all - the babies are more what I want when the mom is a Maltese and the dad is the Yorkie. I am not trying to "better a breed" as a Morkie is not a "breed" but a hybrid. I am trying to always "better" my own individual breeding program though.

This has me confused. Since Maltese are white, why would you think the mom had anything to do with producing mostly black colored babies? I can understand different moms putting out different looking babies as far as face, structure and coat quality but how could a Maltese influence a litter to be more black in color?

[cesar49]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

This is where there is "lack of clarification." IMO, well-planned is no merely 'using your favorite breeds that are healthy pets and big enough and old enough to physically produce puppies.' This is not sufficient or responsible enough reasoning to center a breeing program around. And this more of a general observation, not really just based on your statements. And also, just a difference of opinion as well, I'm sure.

ok... i like yorkipoos.. so that is breeding a yorkie with a poodle..
a morkipoo is a yorkipoo with a maltese.. 3 breeds.. just my own life..
i have chosen to do this on purpose.. yes .. for yorkipoos...
i dont know about any other mixes only these types..

[yorkieisme]

Originally Posted by cesar49

ok... i like yorkipoos.. so that is breeding a yorkie with a poodle..
a morkipoo is a yorkipoo with a maltese.. 3 breeds.. just my own life..
i have chosen to do this on purpose.. yes .. for yorkipoos...
i dont know about any other mixes only these types..

Okay I have to be dumb as heck here.....so give me a second. You mean to tell me you breed for a yorkiepoo then turn around and breed that yorkipoo to a maltese and call it a morkipoo. Please !! I don't mean to say this...but come on there are so many animals in the shelter as we speak. That is not even a designer dog. They have 3 different breeds, and you can get them free in the paper all day long.

[cesar49]

[quote=Woogie Man;2217991]

Originally Posted by ButterflyKisses

You can get several different looks within one litter - and I've found that certain mom's put out certain looks. So my little Maltese mom that had mainly black Morkie babies - not what I aimed for - will not have any more Morkie puppies, while a different little Maltese mom has exactly the color I am looking for the two times she had Morkie babies. I have found that over all - the babies are more what I want when the mom is a Maltese and the dad is the Yorkie. I am not trying to "better a breed" as a Morkie is not a "breed" but a hybrid. I am trying to always "better" my own individual breeding program though.

This has me confused. Since Maltese are white, why would you think the mom had anything to do with producing mostly black colored babies? I can understand different moms putting out different looking babies as far as face, structure and coat quality but how could a Maltese influence a litter to be more black in color?

i started with a female black yorkipoo.. then with an akc male stud white maltese.. got 2 white and one all black morkipoo.. i like the black better.. easier maintenance.. but the yorkie wirey hair is the easiest. but the maltese really adds softness. white is prettier but higher maintenance
for the little dirt diggers..
then the poodle makes them curly.. it is always going to be a surprise when they are born..
the white must be from the maltese and the black genes from the yorkie.
they all had yorkie faces except for one .. one little black morkipoo had a flatter face.. i think his face was smooshed during growth in the womb. like the flat face on the s**tzu..
i prefer the cuter fuller face and nose..
i would not even consider breeding a s**tzu with anything.. jmo

[cesar49]

Originally Posted by yorkieisme

Okay I have to be dumb as heck here.....so give me a second. You mean to tell me you breed for a yorkiepoo then turn around and breed that yorkipoo to a maltese and call it a morkipoo. Please !! I don't mean to say this...but come on there are so many animals in the shelter as we speak. That is not even a designer dog. They have 3 different breeds, and you can get them free in the paper all day long.

i got my first yorkipoo from a breeder.. and the maltese mix was not requested ...but studded by my breeder.. but in the end i was happy for it..
so if you want to call sadie a designer you can.. but i never did..
please dont put words in my mouth


but try to find a morkipoo..

[Woogie Man]

[quote=cesar49;2218022]

Originally Posted by Woogie Man

i started with a female black yorkipoo.. then with an akc male stud white maltese.. got 2 white and one all black morkipoo.. i like the black better.. easier maintenance.. but the yorkie wirey hair is the easiest. but the maltese really adds softness. white is prettier but higher maintenance
for the little dirt diggers..
then the poodle makes them curly.. it is always going to be a surprise when they are born..
the white must be from the maltese and the black genes from the yorkie.
they all had yorkie faces except for one .. one little black morkipoo had a flatter face.. i think his face was smooshed during growth in the womb. like the flat face on the s**tzu..
i prefer the cuter fuller face and nose..
i would not even consider breeding a s**tzu with anything.. jmo

I appreciate your explaining how you breed for certain traits but I'm still confused as to why Butterfly Kisses thought that switching to a different Maltese mom would get rid of the black. With Maltese being only white, any other color would have to come from the stud, if the Maltese was pure bred. Am I missing something here? Guess it really doesn't matter as I only breed Yorkies anyway. I was just curious as to her rationale in switching from one white mom to another white mom. Seems like it would be the stud (Yorkie) contributing any color other than white.

[Woogie Man]

Oh, man, these quote are getting screwed up. I originally asked my question in response to Butterfly Kisses post #433. Hope that clears things up.

[yorkieisme]

Originally Posted by cesar49

i got my first yorkipoo from a breeder.. and the maltese mix was not requested ...but studded by my breeder.. but in the end i was happy for it..
so if you want to call sadie a designer you can.. but i never did..
please dont put words in my mouth


but try to find a morkipoo..

Here are the health issues in all three dogs. When you put them together you have mixture of health issues. These poor animals could end up with all, half or none. But why even take the risk. Its like mixing a batch of cookies and wondering if they will be horrible, good or "GREAT".
Why would I try to find a morkipoo. This is freakin insane. My two cents worth. And I don't care what anyone thinks if they get offended. This is going to far.

Poodles: Progressive Retinal Atrophy inherited.
Legg-Calve'-Perthes -
Patella Sub-luxation -
Epilepsy -
Hypothyroidism -
Cryptorchidism -
may become cancerous.
Mitral Valve Disease -
Autoimmune Hemolytic Anemia (AIHA)
Cushings Disease -

Now here is the Maltese :
subject to genetic eye disorders
collapsing tracheas
hyperglycaemia
skin allergies,
white shaker dog syndrome (disease that causes the dog to have full body tremor

Now the Yorkie :
BLADDER STONES
LIVER SHUNT
CAMPYLOBACTERIOSIS
PANCREATITIS
COCCIDIOSIS PARVOVIRUS
COLLAPSING TRACHEA PATELLA LUXATION
CUSHING'S DISEASE PATENT DUCTAS ARTERIOSUS (PDA)
GIARDIASIS PROTEIN-LOSING ENTEROPATHY
HEMORRHAGIC GASTRIC ENTERITIS (HGE) REVERSE SNEEZING (Pharyngeal Gag Reflex*)
HYPOGLYCEMIA
LEPTOSPIROSIS

[cesar49]

Originally Posted by yorkieisme

Here are the health issues in all three dogs. When you put them together you have mixture of health issues. These poor animals could end up with all, half or none. But why even take the risk. Its like mixing a batch of cookies and wondering if they will be horrible, good or "GREAT".
Why would I try to find a morkipoo. This is freakin insane. My two cents worth. And I don't care what anyone thinks if they get offended. This is going to far.

Poodles: Progressive Retinal Atrophy inherited.
Legg-Calve'-Perthes -
Patella Sub-luxation -
Epilepsy -
Hypothyroidism -
Cryptorchidism -
may become cancerous.
Mitral Valve Disease -
Autoimmune Hemolytic Anemia (AIHA)
Cushings Disease -

Now here is the Maltese :
subject to genetic eye disorders
collapsing tracheas
hyperglycaemia
skin allergies,
white shaker dog syndrome (disease that causes the dog to have full body tremor

Now the Yorkie :
BLADDER STONES
LIVER SHUNT
CAMPYLOBACTERIOSIS
PANCREATITIS
COCCIDIOSIS PARVOVIRUS
COLLAPSING TRACHEA PATELLA LUXATION
CUSHING'S DISEASE PATENT DUCTAS ARTERIOSUS (PDA)
GIARDIASIS PROTEIN-LOSING ENTEROPATHY
HEMORRHAGIC GASTRIC ENTERITIS (HGE) REVERSE SNEEZING (Pharyngeal Gag Reflex*)
HYPOGLYCEMIA
LEPTOSPIROSIS

thank god i have healthy dogs... but what is your point?
you said morkipoos were all over the newspapers
stick with your purebreeds if you want but leave my morkipoo alone

[paddys mom]

I have no problem with people crossing breeds responsibly.
I do have a problem with calling them "designer" and making them out to be something they're not so you can charge more for them.

I don't agree that you shouldn't breed crossbreeds b/c of the amount of shelter dogs b/c then you really shouldn't be breeding any dogs and i don't think thats true b/c I looove my yorkie!! lol.

[cesar49]

yorkieisme.. what does this mean?


Okay I have to be dumb as heck here.....
lol

should i agree ?

[yorkieisme]

Originally Posted by cesar49

thank god i have healthy dogs... but what is your point?
you said morkipoos were all over the newspapers
stick with your purebreeds if you want but leave my morkipoo alone

I am stating "mix breed" animals are free all day long in the paper. Free to a good home , this breed/ some of that breed/ and maybe this breed also.

The point is that some breeders are playing a game of Russian Roulette, but not with a gun but with animals for a $.

Whatever I'm NOT messing with your MORKIPOO, last week you said I was "messing" with Gus Gus. Everytime I say something you think I am picking on your dog. YOUR dog is not to blame for what WE humans do to them.