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Nancy1999 · 08-19-2008, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by good_gurl63901

what do you mean sell with breeding rights??

When you sell a dog that has been registered with the AKC, you do not have to sell breeding rights. The dog can only be registered if it has been neutered or spayed. Some breeders will only sell their dogs this way, and will only give breeding rights if they approve of the breeder and believe in their program. Many alternative registries will register any dog, even one obtained with out breeding rights and these alternative registries, but not the AKC, can register their offspring. When you see a breeder selling puppies registered with other registries, but say the parents were AKC, this is usually what has happened. Some AKC breeders are neutering their dogs before placing them in homes to prevent this from happening.

ILOVEYORKIES2 · 08-19-2008, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by good_gurl63901

he is 9 lbs of muscle! AND I LOVE HIM! i originally wanted a yorkie cause they are small, but he fits right in with our active and crazy lifestyle!! i dont think a tiny pup would do well in our home, i think i made a great decision and he is so loved!!

He is cute, is that him in your avatar? APRI is a great registry. They have forums too where you can go and ask questions just like here. People there seem very helpful but they don't post near as much as here.

good_gurl63901 · 08-19-2008, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ILOVEYORKIES2

He is cute, is that him in your avatar? APRI is a great registry. They have forums too where you can go and ask questions just like here. People there seem very helpful but they don't post near as much as here.

yeh thats my Teddy!!

thanks

good_gurl63901 · 08-19-2008, 09:42 PM

ok so for you to have an AKC pup the breeder you get the pup from either has it fixed or they have to agree w/you breeding it? thanks for the info im learning!!

BaileysMom2008 · 08-19-2008, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by good_gurl63901

ok so for you to have an AKC pup the breeder you get the pup from either has it fixed or they have to agree w/you breeding it? thanks for the info im learning!!

No in order to be AKC both sire and Dam must be AKC registered.

Nancy1999 · 08-19-2008, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by good_gurl63901

ok so for you to have an AKC pup the breeder you get the pup from either has it fixed or they have to agree w/you breeding it? thanks for the info im learning!!

To get an AKC pup the breeder must be in good standing with the AKC, and the pups must be eligible for registration, and this usually means that both parents were registered and had breeding rights, so their offspring are automatically eligible. Joey's breeder wouldn't send in the registration papers until, I showed her proof that a vet had neutered him, then she sent his papers in, and I registered him.

good_gurl63901 · 08-20-2008, 04:56 AM

ok.. so if both parents are AKC they are eligible.. but the breeder can withhold papers till they are fixed unless they agree with you breeding them? sorry this is my first journey into any kind of registration, my pup may not be AKC but i would still like to understand it!! lol

C C Kent · 08-20-2008, 04:57 AM

Not trying to offend anyone who has an APRI puppy, the average pet buyer does not know the difference and doesn't think to ask until they own a puppy.

AKC limited registration allows the puppy to participate in AKC sanctioned events with the exception of Conformation events. Conformation events are designed to choose the best breeding stock and limited registration means no breeding. AKC full registration allows the puppy to participate in any AKC sanctioned event including conformation, and to register puppies when bred to another AKC full reg. dog.

APRI does not offer limited registration. It is specifically designed to serve the commercial pet breeding industry. The purpose was to deal with the limitations put in place by AKC. It allows people to purchase top breeding stock with limited registration (no breeding rights) and break the agreement by registering with an alternative registry. Many in the public are clueless to the purpose and practice of APRI so they buy the puppy and support the practice. To say that the registries are equal is to excuse the outright theft of breeding rights in many cases. Most simply don't know what they are supporting in buying and registering with APRI.

Those who have the best bloodlines are very particular about who they share the blood with. If they let an intact dog out of their program and into the wrong hands it could wind up in a commercial breeding program. For this reason many are now spay/neutering at a very young age because people don't keep their word.

It's about trying to keep the dogs you breed out of commercial breeding programs... not selfish, responsible.

good_gurl63901 · 08-20-2008, 05:04 AM

thanks for the help guys! ok what is limited registration? and what is Conformation events? I love my teddy no matter what, but I love to learn new things! I feel that unless you are educated about a topic you can not have an opinion...

xxmxaxrxyxx · 08-20-2008, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by good_gurl63901

thanks for the help guys! ok what is limited registration? and what is Conformation events? I love my teddy no matter what, but I love to learn new things! I feel that unless you are educated about a topic you can not have an opinion...

limited registration means the breeder that sold the puppy did not give breeding nor show rights...so if the puppy was to ever have puppies the litter could not be registered with AKC.

good_gurl63901 · 08-20-2008, 05:11 AM

the breeder has to give you permission to show the dog too??? is that why for you to get a AKC pup it is so expensive?? i got teddy as a family member, not for his pedigree!

xxmxaxrxyxx · 08-20-2008, 05:27 AM

its not they they have to give you permission...it is that they don't feel that the puppy is a show/breeder prospect..most reputable breeder breeds to standard or breed to better the breed...if they were to give everyone breeding rights then the standards will no longer be valid because so many byb and puppy mill breed to make money and do not care about the breed itself..

if you read one of the post up top...you can show a limited registered akc puppy but not in conformation...

good_gurl63901 · 08-20-2008, 05:35 AM

ohh ok! thanks

BamaFan121s · 08-20-2008, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by good_gurl63901

Teddy is APRI i have no clue what it means lol. I have never had a registered pup before.. i have had ppl make me feel like he isnt as good as theirs cause he isnt AKC... they have also sug that he isnt a full yorkie cause of his size

APRI is just another registration. AKC is the most recognized and strictest in regards to enforcing their policies. But that does NOT mean your dog is inferior to any other, be it AKC champion or mutt! Just because a dog is AKC reg doesn't automatically mean it is of a better quality or had a better breeder or even that it's full blooded Yorkie! Please don't let other people's clouded opinions get you down.

Harley_chik · 08-20-2008, 06:44 AM

Maybe you should think of it this way: your dog didn't choose to be APRI registered, his breeder chose it. Therefore the fact that your "baby" is registered with an puppymill/BYB registry is a reflection on his breeder not him. IMHO the "commercial pet industry," or puppymill industry, needs to be eliminated and I don't think very highly of a registry that's promoting it.

08-20-2008, 04:57 AM	#23
C C Kent YT Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Missouri Ozarks Posts: 452	Not trying to offend anyone who has an APRI puppy, the average pet buyer does not know the difference and doesn't think to ask until they own a puppy. AKC limited registration allows the puppy to participate in AKC sanctioned events with the exception of Conformation events. Conformation events are designed to choose the best breeding stock and limited registration means no breeding. AKC full registration allows the puppy to participate in any AKC sanctioned event including conformation, and to register puppies when bred to another AKC full reg. dog. APRI does not offer limited registration. It is specifically designed to serve the commercial pet breeding industry. The purpose was to deal with the limitations put in place by AKC. It allows people to purchase top breeding stock with limited registration (no breeding rights) and break the agreement by registering with an alternative registry. Many in the public are clueless to the purpose and practice of APRI so they buy the puppy and support the practice. To say that the registries are equal is to excuse the outright theft of breeding rights in many cases. Most simply don't know what they are supporting in buying and registering with APRI. Those who have the best bloodlines are very particular about who they share the blood with. If they let an intact dog out of their program and into the wrong hands it could wind up in a commercial breeding program. For this reason many are now spay/neutering at a very young age because people don't keep their word. It's about trying to keep the dogs you breed out of commercial breeding programs... not selfish, responsible. __________________ Paris Sophie Bogus Maximus Chezzer Macy Gissimo

08-20-2008, 05:27 AM	#27
xxmxaxrxyxx Missing Yoshi Everyday! Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 15,110 Blog Entries: 3	its not they they have to give you permission...it is that they don't feel that the puppy is a show/breeder prospect..most reputable breeder breeds to standard or breed to better the breed...if they were to give everyone breeding rights then the standards will no longer be valid because so many byb and puppy mill breed to make money and do not care about the breed itself.. if you read one of the post up top...you can show a limited registered akc puppy but not in conformation... __________________ Yoshi Mei Ling Ting Ting Ting Ki Sun Hye Yukio Kioshi

08-19-2008, 09:42 PM	#19
good_gurl63901 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Poplar Bluff, Mo Posts: 197	ok so for you to have an AKC pup the breeder you get the pup from either has it fixed or they have to agree w/you breeding it? thanks for the info im learning!!

08-20-2008, 04:56 AM	#22
good_gurl63901 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Poplar Bluff, Mo Posts: 197	ok.. so if both parents are AKC they are eligible.. but the breeder can withhold papers till they are fixed unless they agree with you breeding them? sorry this is my first journey into any kind of registration, my pup may not be AKC but i would still like to understand it!! lol

08-20-2008, 05:04 AM	#24
good_gurl63901 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Poplar Bluff, Mo Posts: 197	thanks for the help guys! ok what is limited registration? and what is Conformation events? I love my teddy no matter what, but I love to learn new things! I feel that unless you are educated about a topic you can not have an opinion...

08-20-2008, 05:11 AM	#26
good_gurl63901 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Poplar Bluff, Mo Posts: 197	the breeder has to give you permission to show the dog too??? is that why for you to get a AKC pup it is so expensive?? i got teddy as a family member, not for his pedigree!

08-20-2008, 05:35 AM	#28
good_gurl63901 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Poplar Bluff, Mo Posts: 197	ohh ok! thanks

08-20-2008, 06:44 AM	#30
Harley_chik No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 137	Maybe you should think of it this way: your dog didn't choose to be APRI registered, his breeder chose it. Therefore the fact that your "baby" is registered with an puppymill/BYB registry is a reflection on his breeder not him. IMHO the "commercial pet industry," or puppymill industry, needs to be eliminated and I don't think very highly of a registry that's promoting it.