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Old 07-24-2008, 09:27 AM   #1
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Hey Y'all

I went to the store to get some stuff and while I was out a lady asked me where I was able to get my puppy from. She was right - there are no breeders here to be found. I told her that I was fortunate to FINALLY meet the right lil girl at the right time at a small pet store after I had given up on finding a breeder within a reasonable distance.

She seemed like an intelligent lady - although a bit 'uppity'. Anyway - I am now FREAKING out. I didnt let her see me freak because maybe some of her words were jealousy induced and I didnt want to give her the satisfaction.

Sorry Im so verbose - anyway - I told her Nature's Breeder's name is 'Ronnie Chappell' and the puppy was distributed to the pet store through 'Lambriar'. She turned so mean! I just walked away and said 'I dont care if she is a mix between a rat and a turd - she is perfect and precious to me and Im not going to stand here and listen to some pilled up socialite talk down to my baby'! And walked off!

This is what she said:

My puppy is from a puppy mill
She will always be in poor health when she is perfectly fine
You dont have a real Yorkie
Your dog is interbreed
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I dont even want to go on - you get the idea and the more I say - the more I wish I would have decked her! I'll see her again...

I am going to try to upload Nature's papers and maybe Y'all can teach me to read them. I hope they are readable. I desperately want to look into her background - not to see if she does or doesnt come from a great line of champions! I dont care! But to know what I may be dealing with HEALTH wise. This is my very first pup ever and I want to know EVERY THING about her.

This is what scares me: I cant find ONE SINGLE THING on a 'Ronnie Chappell'. But when I 'ego search' my own name - I dont find anything either and Im surely not a bad person. So - that doesnt really mean anything.

Please! On bended knees! I ask you to please look at my girls papers and help me learn to read them. I would be forever grateful! I am getting all dramatic about this!
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Hi there!
I raise AKC registered yorkies. Nature is simply not AKC registered. I don't know what Lambriar is, but it is obviously not a hobby breeder. It may in fact be a puppy mill. But perhaps she came from a place where she and her parents were well treated. We don't know. But like you said, if she is healthy and loving, that is all that matters. It's not like you were trying to buy a show dog.
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Lambriar....puppy brokers. They get their dogs from various places (bad breeders, puppy mills, etc) They sell to pet shops. If you Google Lambriar you will find lots of information. I think they are also owners of a commercial kennel.
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I am not sure what Lamar is...
If you are concerned about your puppy's health I would take them to the vet...I am sorry she was rude... and not in her defense at all....but we all have been kinda passionate about puppy mills lately...she shouldnt have been so rude to you... I apologize for her meaness.... sorry she treated you that way.
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Well... Though it seems like you may have made a mistake (buying from a petstore)... You have your baby now whom you are in love with and thats what matters most! I'd be sure to have her tested/screened for the common illnesses associated with pups with that kinda background.... and go from there. Wish you the best
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Saying this gently....her papers are not papers from a registry. It is simply a pedigree printed out by Lambriar. They are distributors for pet stores and purchase puppies from USDA commerical breeders. Simply put she is from a puppymill. You could find Ronnie Chappel's name on the USDA site if you know the state in which he's located...

I'm glad she's healthy...love and enjoy her.
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What did she cost?
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I dont know how much she cost - but she is chipped and has been AKC registered - I have a certificate at least?
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I dont know how much she cost - but she is chipped and has been AKC registered - I have a certificate at least?
What make you think she is AKC registered? Does it say that on the papers?
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It doesnt matter to me paper wise - other than her vet records - if she has any certificates. If it did - we all know how very easy it is to get papers on a doggie. So - AKC doesnt really matter to me. Far too many canines are AKC and pure mutts. It use to have an impact.

Her health is my only concern. She is off the HOOK! lol Im sure she is more than fine. I found the receipt in there - she was a bit over 900.00 - chipped and all shots and vet checks free for 6 months.

So - how do I read this? So that I can try to locate her family? That would be awesome to see what her family looks like! That excites me!

Once again! Thank Y'all for helping me out. I was freaking hehe.
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It doesnt matter to me paper wise - other than her vet records - if she has any certificates. If it did - we all know how very easy it is to get papers on a doggie. So - AKC doesnt really matter to me. Far too many canines are AKC and pure mutts. It use to have an impact.

Her health is my only concern. She is off the HOOK! lol Im sure she is more than fine. I found the receipt in there - she was a bit over 900.00 - chipped and all shots and vet checks free for 6 months.

So - how do I read this? So that I can try to locate her family? That would be awesome to see what her family looks like! That excites me!

Once again! Thank Y'all for helping me out. I was freaking hehe.
Scan her AKC pedigree.
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Are you serious??? You will never be able to track the family of a puppy mill dog. First you say she is AKC registered, then you say that it does not matter to you. Well, she is definately not AKC registered. Good luck finding her family??!!!!
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Sorry to say this but I'm not sure if you were happy if you saw her family. If your dogs mom is a puppy mill bitch.. propably not a pretty sight..
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Lambriar is a broker to large commercial kennels registered with the USDA, what we call "puppy mills". They truck puppies in cages from the mills to pet stores.

This is from their website:

Lambriar® markets puppies from USDA inspected and licensed, reputable breeders only. We have been a leading pet supplier for over 36 years and have always maintained and demanded the highest standards possible from our suppliers. Lambriar® accepts puppies only from breeders licensed through the United States Department of Agriculture and by state license programs who have adhered to the most stringent standards. All suppliers and breeders have to meet the standards of the USDA.

Lambriar Incorporated - Support

Do you know the state Ronnie Chappell is from? I'm sure you will find his name on the USDA puppy mill list:

http://prisonersofgreed.org/ListA2006.pdf

You would not want to locate Nature's family. It would break your heart. Read this if you want to get an idea where Nature came from:

Puppymills - Information about puppy mills and how to shut them down.
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if your dog is from a puppymill you will not be able to find her family unfortunately. the only way people really find their dogs families is through a good breeder who keeps records and has the parents in their home etc, and say they just had a litter and so and so is picking up the brother, they can give you their contact info. I just got a baby and his brother is being adopted by a nice lady, and we said we will always keep in contact and send pictures of the two brothers to each other--but thats the only way ive seen people "find family."
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