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Old 08-06-2005, 07:05 PM   #46
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Fighting dogs as a group received media attention in the 1990's similar to German Shepherd Dogs in the 50's and Doberman Pinscher's in the 70's. Rottweilers, German Shepherds, Great Danes and Doberman Pinschers still evoke fear in the general public. Several **myths** about the these dogs persist such as the belief that a dog's jaw "locks" onto a victim or that the jaw pressure of one breed is greater than another's. As a group, fighting and guard dogs are energetic, loyal and willing to please. They are not very reactive to pain and enjoy rough play. These dogs are large and muscular and can be difficult to control as adults if they are not trained to respond to their owner's commands. Guarding dogs all have large heads and jaws. Dog bites from larger breeds are more severe than bites from smaller dogs because of the size of the injuries and the dog's ability to knock a person down during an attack. However, large dogs ***DO NOT ATTACK MORE OFTEN THAN SMALL DOGS.**** A large dog attack is just more injurious.


This is something that I found right away also. I have a ton of resources for information on pit bulls and other dogs labeled as aggressive breeds. Please research both ends of the spectrum before placing blame of a breed.
VERY WELL SAID. german sheperds are also put in the same category as rotts,pittbulls and dobermans, yet policemen use them all the time and they are also used as seeing eye dogs. wow who would think that such an aggressive dog, would be put to help a blind person. please. it's how you train the dog and how you treat it. if someone gets a pittbull and loves it and takes care of it and gives it alot of attention like most of us do to our yorkies he will turn out to be just as loveable and good as a yorkie, but with that said most people who get pittbulls just get them and give them some attention and leave them outside in the winter or blazing summer and and sometimes even forget about them, well no wonder they get aggressive towards their owners. they loved them for a short time and then got lazy. i wonder how much i would love my mother if she loved me and gave me attention for a short time and then forgot about me and left me out in the cold. hmmmm. what do you think?
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No, they don't lock. Another common myth that most of America has been to ignorant to research on their own

http://www.dogwatch.net/myths/lock_jaw.html

I don't think your comment was necessary in response to my post. Sorry to be so ignorant, but never having had an interest in owning a pit, I've never felt the need to research the breed.
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Old 08-07-2005, 12:18 PM   #48
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my rosie is 7lb and plays with a bull dog and a large cocker spaniel the other day over the park she was playing chase with a alsation it was so funny



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I don't think your comment was necessary in response to my post. Sorry to be so ignorant, but never having had an interest in owning a pit, I've never felt the need to research the breed.

I dont think she meant it to sound as it did, Sorry that you took it that way.
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I dont think she meant it to sound as it did, Sorry that you took it that way.
You're right it wasn't directed at anyone here PERSONALLY, it was a statement about America in general. Most people will just regurgetate (sp?) what the media says and remain ignorant about issues such as this. Pitbulls are a huge media subject and every single time I hear anything on the news regarding the issue the "Locking Jaws" are brought up It's not true and if people would actually research something before regurgetating it then maybe America would be a little better off
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Shes 100% pit bull. The neighbors have a 5 week old new born baby and she is soooooo in love with that baby. If she barks and you say SHHH the baby is sleeping she will stop. Or if the baby cries she will get your attention. And to think . Shes a pit. Its all in how these dogs are raised. Honestly it is.Shes 100% pit bull. The neighbors have a 5 week old new born baby and she is soooooo in love with that baby. If she barks and you say SHHH the baby is sleeping she will stop. Or if the baby cries she will get your attention. And to think . Shes a pit. Its all in how these dogs are raised. Honestly it is.



i think thats so true if you miss treat ANY animal they could attack its just that bigger breeds can do more damage than the smaller ones but many people think small dogs are snappy, its all in the way you bring them up, just like your children.


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Just thought that I would share my experience.
I was a little uneasy about letting Merlot play with big dogs, just because they could step on him by accident and he could get hurt. He loves playing with them more than smaller ones, so I let him. One day at the dog park he was running around playing just fine and a female pit bull kept sniffing at him and trying to play too hard with him. He kept running away from her to play with the other dogs and I could tell he was getting annoyed, so I leashed him and we left. The next day the same thing occured with the same pitbull. Before I could get over to leash him they started fighting. The pitbull grabbed hold of my Merlot around the neck and wouldn't let go. It was the scarriest thing of my life!! I was rolling around on the ground with the two of them trying to get the pitbull off of my dog while the owner stood by. He looked like a deer caught in the headlights. Finally someone else ran over to help me. He grabbed the pit by the hind legs and he let go. Merlot turned out to be fine, just mostly really shaken up. I on the other hand won't let him ever play with big dogs again because all it takes is once and you never know with dogs.
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Never ever let your baby near those pit bulls.........I don't care how "sweet" they are.........

Yorkshire Terriers are often stolen and used to train fighting pit-bulls because of a yorkies tenacity.......................
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Well I have to say I have learnt something on yorkie talk today I like millions of others have always been brought up to believe pit bulls jaws lock on but you know what at the end of the day it doesnt matter to me what breed of big dog it is I wont let prudence play with big dogs All the information I have read about yorkies are they are fine boned or is that not true as well?Im just not prepared to take a chance call me overprotective so be it. And by the way have you seen half a little girls face ripped off? not a pretty sight. dianne and prudence
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Well I have to say I have learnt something on yorkie talk today I like millions of others have always been brought up to believe pit bulls jaws lock on but you know what at the end of the day it doesnt matter to me what breed of big dog it is I wont let prudence play with big dogs All the information I have read about yorkies are they are fine boned or is that not true as well?Im just not prepared to take a chance call me overprotective so be it. And by the way have you seen half a little girls face ripped off? not a pretty sight. dianne and prudence
Pit Bulls Jaws DO LOCK!!!!! Many owners have an ax to grind since they
have to pay such high insurance rates when they own these couple breeds. Anyone
can own a website and say anything they want. I will believe my Animal Protective
League and the Law in Boston that states a Pit Bulls jaw will lock when they bite.
Like some have said a friendly dog that has parents or grandparents that have
been taught to kill or fight can turn. You certainly wouldn't put your precious
children in danger and you should not your precious dogs either.
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Many owners have an ax to grind since they
have to pay such high insurance rates when they own these couple breeds.
sometimes they arent covered at all in that dpeartment because of what breed dog they have
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Stewie plays with dogs of all sizes, including his cousin, a Shar Pei,
his cousin, a Cocker
his friend, a German Shepard (who is afraid of him, I might add)
his neighbors - an Albino German Shepard and a Boxer
and two formerly abused Pit Bulls that moved in next door to me. They're rescues and they're wonderful. They love Stewie and I would never "protect" him by not letting him play with other dogs. Dogs that aren't allowed to play turn into grumpy old mopes when they're older.
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Like many others here I have always believed that a dog is only as good as his training. If you train any dog to be agressive chances are that's what he'll be. However it only took one tragic experience for me to change my thinking on pit bulls. My brother-in-law owned a pit bull along with several dobermans. The pit bull was a mean looking so and so and did a fabulous job of guarding the house, except if he was inside and then he'd lick the thief to death. My brother-in-law also had a young daughter who had been raised with the dogs and there had never been a problem. One evening after supper we were sitting at the table having coffee and my niece was in the livingroom watching TV. She got up to come into the diningroom and Pig the Pit lunged half way across the room and grabbed her by the arm. My brother-in-law who had trained many police dogs yelled the command that the dog was supposed to know to drop whatever it was, but the dog just continued to shake this young child by her arm. That dog would have killed her had it not been for the fact my brother-in-law has a black belt in karate. Sadly however the damage was done and my niece lost her arm.

Here is the problem with pit bulls and many of the other "agressive" breeds, and that includes labs, they are so interbred that you can no longer rely on them being true to breed. It's not the dog's fault obviously but until such time as we can get a handle on the poor breeding tactics these dogs cannot be trusted no matter how sweet and gentle they may seem. They can turn at the drop of a hat.

I completely understand how responsible owners of these dogs feel. But when you have entire countries legislating how these dogs are to be handled in public you surely must ask yourself if so many people can be wrong. If I were a pitbull owner I'd not want to take the chance that my dog would/could bite anyone or anything and I would keep it muzzled while in public places. Perhaps if responsible pitbull owners were to do that it might alleviate the fear surrounding these dogs and restore some confidence to those tasked with enacting the legislation. IT would at least be a starting point. Otherwise I fear they will be banned completely.
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Okay I just read the attack post made by Speck...Bruce and I just recently had an experience that was similar with a Bull Terrier (poor guy a run in with a mean pit, the neighbors bull terrier, big guys do not like him), and BY NO MEANS AM I EVER ADVOCATING THIS BUT...If another dog gets your baby and they cannot be pulled apart easily the easiest way to get a dog in an emergency situation only, where they are being so aggressive you think they will seriously injure or kill your baby the easiest way to get to realease your dog is to kick them hard and square in the jaw...Getting hands involved is likely to get you mauled to, you may have a vet bill for the other dog, but that is a lot better than having a dead baby.

It always amazes me how often these people who own outrageously aggressive animals will be so hands off when they attack someone or another dog! Really it disgusts me!
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I wouldn't. Even if the dog is sweet natured you never know what can happen. My Gus is only 2.9 lbs and can get hurt by them just playing. I wouldn't even let him play with a big dog if he were 5 to 10 lbs either. Too many things can go wrong.
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