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Old 08-06-2005, 09:23 AM   #31
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this is a little off the topic of yorkies and big dogs, but did you know that my moms house insurance wont cover certain dogs "that have been known to be agreesive breeds"........ pitbulls, rotties, dobermans, and german shepard was all on that list (it was a pretty long list too) but i can believe that they have REQUIREMEnts for home owners insurance on what dog you have (i have known pitbulls, dobeys and there is this really cute rotty at the dog park all the time ......lol..... the poot rotty gets BULLIED by my lil yorkie and even the Chis at the park, she is so sweet) anyways, i just thought that was interesting peice of information that my mom shared with me...... and no...lol... yorkie is not on the list, i asked
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I don't think so. I wouldn't let my tiny dog "play" with a 100 lb. dog any more than I would let a big dog "play" with a horse. I am not saying they have to be totally separated at all times but when one paw (or hoof) is kicked in the wrong directions someone's going to get hurt.

It's no different than a 100 lb. person stepping on a tiny dog. Or a grown man wrestling with a toddler. Keep your babies safe!

This is not directed at families that include "children" of all sizes. You know your dogs and your dogs know each other.

I hate to hear anyone sound pressured when they feel uncomfortable about something. If it doesn't feel right, play it safe.
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I don't know why our Animal Protective League would say they "lock" ?? if that
were not the case. Since I was called "ignorant" I'll research it more.
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It took me one minute to find this, There is lots more if you would like. I'm wrong
many times but when people get like this I do want to prove I'm right.

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Old 08-06-2005, 10:56 AM   #35
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No, No, No. Would you take a chance with your toddler playing with them? We have so many here, I just can't bear it. One day they wag their tail, the next day they are maniacs. I have seen them take a dog they have been friendly with for weeks and just tear it apart. They have a prey instinct that is so unreliable. They are fighting dogs. I just get so upset about this breed of dogs. The owner can have the best intentions in the world but cannot trust these dogs. Don't you watch TV????

And Yorkies to most dogs are fuzzy little toys. Please, please don't.
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No I really dont watch alot of tv. Instead I do dog rescues. I deal with pit bulls alot. I run a rottie rescue and I also rehome many many pit bulls.
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Fighting dogs as a group received media attention in the 1990's similar to German Shepherd Dogs in the 50's and Doberman Pinscher's in the 70's. Rottweilers, German Shepherds, Great Danes and Doberman Pinschers still evoke fear in the general public. Several **myths** about the these dogs persist such as the belief that a dog's jaw "locks" onto a victim or that the jaw pressure of one breed is greater than another's. As a group, fighting and guard dogs are energetic, loyal and willing to please. They are not very reactive to pain and enjoy rough play. These dogs are large and muscular and can be difficult to control as adults if they are not trained to respond to their owner's commands. Guarding dogs all have large heads and jaws. Dog bites from larger breeds are more severe than bites from smaller dogs because of the size of the injuries and the dog's ability to knock a person down during an attack. However, large dogs ***DO NOT ATTACK MORE OFTEN THAN SMALL DOGS.**** A large dog attack is just more injurious.


This is something that I found right away also. I have a ton of resources for information on pit bulls and other dogs labeled as aggressive breeds. Please research both ends of the spectrum before placing blame of a breed.
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I think it is easy to call one or another breed of dog more or less dangerous. Like I said I have a large GSD, he is my 3rd. I have raised them all from young puppies.And all the same way.
One would savage ANY dog, big or small if given half a chance, one was a more timid female that I am sure would have been terrorized by a yorkie and this one is a saint and can be trusted around any animal.
He has even brought home baby mice and bunnies for me to save. LOL, probably took them right out of their nests. Never a mark on them only spit from him licking them.
Common sense tells me that if I see a large GSD at the dog park or in the street I pick up my yorkies. Same with a pit bull, a chow, a lab and a med size mutt. I do not let my yorkies play with any dog except the 2 I own and trust implicitly.

I have a mini schnauzer as a nephew dog,I babysit him often, he is still a puppy weighing maybe 15-20 lbs. he likes to play rough. Mignon is not allowed near him unless he is contained in an expen. He is a sweet dog but very exuberant, Mignon weighs less that 3 lbs. He could hurt her in his play, I do not want to chance it.And believe me it is a pain in the butt, when Mignon is out Ollie is in. I just don't want to take the chance she might get hurt.
I know when Buddy my biggest gets excited about someone coming to the door I need to pick up Mignon. She is very aware of his excitement and stays away but I just don't take chances.
Sorry this is so lengthy but to me it is all just about common sense. You have to do what you feel is right for your dog and you but I choose to take the safest road with mine. To me it isn't about breed it is about sheer size.
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It is true that these breeds are not able to "lock" their jaw, however physics tells us that their size and musculature will cause them to exert more preassure, they simply exert more pounds per square inch and are more difficult to pull off than say a yorkie. This is a fact...There is no way around it that there are a couple of breeds that are more responsible for injury to people and other animals than others, unfortunately pitbulls and rotts fall into this category...BUT IT IS NOT THEIR FAULT!!! What these breeds need to be successfully integrated into living with people and other pets is proper training, socialization, and LOVE!!! Just like any other breed!

People who are going to own pits or other dogs than can be deadly really need to be knowledgable and realistic about the characteristics of their dogs breed. They need to take them to obedience and socialization classes and work with them on manners. These dogs also need a tremendous amount of exercise in order to exert what could be come negative energy. Males unless kept for breeding should be nuetered to help curb aggression. Keep them leashed around strangers, avoid physical punishment, etc. Just like you would do with any other dog to make them a loving part of your family...I think because of the image these dogs have a lot of people get them to look cool & tough and want them to be aggressive, THIS IS ABUSE AND IT IS NOT THEIR FAULT!!!

Just the other day Bruce & I were at Petco (buying toys for Shira the rescue yorkie actually) and a guy had a pitbull with him, I thought nothing of it assuming most people would not bring an unsocialized dog into public, until it lunged at my baby. I immediately picked Bruce up and the guy holding the pitbull shocked it with some sort of shock collar. He acted very concerned until we moved on to the next aisle then he praised the dog, after shocking it, for agressively coming at us, well I had no problem handing my dog to the coworker I had with me and marching back and saying "excuse me sir, but you are abusing your dog by teaching it to be aggressive, if you choose not to control your dog others will, this is Alaska, no one has to have a gun permit and if I were not a dog lover I would have shot your dog the way it lunged at mine and someone else will." He looked at me and said "Lady pitbulls are fighting dogs what I am I supposed to do." THIS IS WHY THIS BREED and other have problems!!! IT IS THEIR IDIOTIC OWNERS!!!

Sorry for the rant, I am not a fan of large dogs they actually scare the hell out of me, but I hate when people villanize other animals when it is really the fault of people!
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Sorry... But I would not let my Gracie play with big dogs. My neighbors have a chow chow - German Sheppard mix and I remember a while ago Gracie was trying to play with it and that dog pinned Gracie down and started growling at her, it scared the living daylight out of me and ever since Gracie has been scared of big dogs.
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OMG, NO WAY !!!! I take my yorkies everywhere I go and when I visit my sister that has three of these dogs, They don't GO !!! One bite that is all it will take, just one. I would never take that chance. I don't care how friendly they are, they are still animals with instincts. Just my opinion.
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It is true that these breeds are not able to "lock" their jaw, however physics tells us that their size and musculature will cause them to exert more preassure, they simply exert more pounds per square inch and are more difficult to pull off than say a yorkie. This is a fact...There is no way around it that there are a couple of breeds that are more responsible for injury to people and other animals than others, unfortunately pitbulls and rotts fall into this category...BUT IT IS NOT THEIR FAULT!!! What these breeds need to be successfully integrated into living with people and other pets is proper training, socialization, and LOVE!!! Just like any other breed!

People who are going to own pits or other dogs than can be deadly really need to be knowledgable and realistic about the characteristics of their dogs breed. They need to take them to obedience and socialization classes and work with them on manners. These dogs also need a tremendous amount of exercise in order to exert what could be come negative energy. Males unless kept for breeding should be nuetered to help curb aggression. Keep them leashed around strangers, avoid physical punishment, etc. Just like you would do with any other dog to make them a loving part of your family...I think because of the image these dogs have a lot of people get them to look cool & tough and want them to be aggressive, THIS IS ABUSE AND IT IS NOT THEIR FAULT!!!

Just the other day Bruce & I were at Petco (buying toys for Shira the rescue yorkie actually) and a guy had a pitbull with him, I thought nothing of it assuming most people would not bring an unsocialized dog into public, until it lunged at my baby. I immediately picked Bruce up and the guy holding the pitbull shocked it with some sort of shock collar. He acted very concerned until we moved on to the next aisle then he praised the dog, after shocking it, for agressively coming at us, well I had no problem handing my dog to the coworker I had with me and marching back and saying "excuse me sir, but you are abusing your dog by teaching it to be aggressive, if you choose not to control your dog others will, this is Alaska, no one has to have a gun permit and if I were not a dog lover I would have shot your dog the way it lunged at mine and someone else will." He looked at me and said "Lady pitbulls are fighting dogs what I am I supposed to do." THIS IS WHY THIS BREED and other have problems!!! IT IS THEIR IDIOTIC OWNERS!!!

Sorry for the rant, I am not a fan of large dogs they actually scare the hell out of me, but I hate when people villanize other animals when it is really the fault of people!
That is a fantastic post. dianne and prudence
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wow!!!!! thnks for all the info. you guys have all given me some food for thought. i think i'd rather be safe than sorry. i know there are alots of yorkies out there but there's only 1 lucky.
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i was a vet tech for 6 years guess what bit me an did nerve damage to my hand a lab which they are supposed to be a nice family dog you have to judge each dog individually not by what breed they are
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i was a vet tech for 6 years guess what bit me an did nerve damage to my hand a lab which they are supposed to be a nice family dog you have to judge each dog individually not by what breed they are
very well said. as i have also said in past posts. the dogs that have bitten me were 2 different golden retrievers and a lab.

All in all, its your choice if you want to give this playtime thing with your dog and the pit a chance. Trust your gut.
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