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Old 08-05-2005, 05:47 AM   #31
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I do not think anyone is saying that mixed bred dog or purebred dogs are not both equally beautiful, cute, adorable etc...I think that people, such as myself are worried about over-population of these animals which we all hold precious...Purebred or not...

As for the dogs "value"...Wheter Sammi was 200 bucks or 1800 bucks I feel in love with her...Her "value" to me is not monetary...It it WAY WAY more than that...I think the whole "debate" to me is just people seeing what is in the shelters (mostly mixed breeds) and trying to prevent it from getting even more overpopulated...

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You see this is the BIG fight which is not only you or me or them it's all over the US and Canada some people are cruel and if you don't have the paper to proove it's a purebred they won't even look at you while others hate the people with purebreds because of all these clubs which are supposably fraudulant anywho while others don't care abotu breed as long as the puppy looks great has a good personality and great coat with a lot of love and health. Like these compare these 2 pictures here and tell me which puppy you could not love!

They are both Georgous and yet one is Yorkshire Terrier and the other is Morke both are breathing and feeling lovable dogs I don't knwo why you should rate them by value (it like in the olden days where black guy where slaves because they where worth nothing!) SAME PRINCIPAL no offence
You are right..how could any dog lover not love any dog. But No one hear "hates' mixed or purebred dogs. I certainly don't see where I have come across as "fighting" about it or hating anyone. I have been a dog lover for over 40 years..I actually like dogs better than most people LOL. I don't hate any mix, I just want to make sure you understand my opposition is with the incredible high prices some of these breeders charge and the false advertising that they are "better". I think some of them are taking advantage of people. If you want a mix and want to pay 1500 for it, go for it..but don't sell them on it being healthier, hypo allergenic, the best of both breeds just on the basis of it being a mix...it's just a bunch of bunk. If they are attracted to the dog, love the dog and are happy with paying that much it's A OK with me. I just don't think it's right.
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hehe i want to guess #1 is the yorkie #2 is the Morkie
Right answer and the morkie has been sold for years now (that's actually an update pic) and the Yorkie has been reserved and will leave soon. Needless to day that not everyone feels the same way abotu mixed breeds and no one seems to be able to agree to disagree on this one (not even myself) But I try to explain my point of view anywho.

Even for the price there should be 1004 mixes and 2000$ mixes just like the pure bred puppies. clissified by quality. Of course by today's standards a pure bred at 100$ will probably be like my first yorkie (PEANUT) he has been spayed/neutered but that was a 350$ dog (Yorkshire Terrier) which I bought before starting this breeding. Over 14 years ago, he is HUGE!!!!! 15 pounds, trachea problems, hyp problems, luckyly no liver problems but not bred because brother died of liver shunt. We made the guy do DNA and it turns out his father was the son of his mother. (HIS BROTHER WAS ALSO HIS FATHER) Cost us a few hundred for DNA. This is when we got interested into getting a home kennel at first. And Peanut has lived a VERY LONG life considering all the issues he came with once he starts suffering (when trachea problems worsten) we will have no choice but to put him to sleep. JUST TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE ON HOW BAD A PURE BRED CAN BE AS WELL. I would send a picture but you do NOT want to see this.!!!

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Marc-o same concept who can look at Rex and say oh he is a Mix ..so what! can you NOT love this face? i will just never forget what happened on a walk. someone pulled up next to us looked interested in Rex and asked his breed. When i told this man he wass a mix he frowned and told me he belonged on the street. wel of course i told this B!%* to leave but it still hurt
Totally adorable!! Not any less valuable or loveable because he isn't purebred.
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Marc-o same concept who can look at Rex and say oh he is a Mix ..so what! can you NOT love this face? i will just never forget what happened on a walk. someone pulled up next to us looked interested in Rex and asked his breed. When i told this man he wass a mix he frowned and told me he belonged on the street. wel of course i told this B!%* to leave but it still hurt

I think he is absolutely adorable.
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You are right..how could any dog lover not love any dog. But No one hear "hates' mixed or purebred dogs. I certainly don't see where I have come across as "fighting" about it or hating anyone. I have been a dog lover for over 40 years..I actually like dogs better than most people LOL. I don't hate any mix, I just want to make sure you understand my opposition is with the incredible high prices some of these breeders charge and the false advertising that they are "better". I think some of them are taking advantage of people. If you want a mix and want to pay 1500 for it, go for it..but don't sell them on it being healthier, hypo allergenic, the best of both breeds just on the basis of it being a mix...it's just a bunch of bunk. If they are attracted to the dog, love the dog and are happy with paying that much it's A OK with me. I just don't think it's right.

Just a small detail i am inquiring about

Most breeds with NON shedding hair are hypo allergenic unless you are actually allergic to the mucus (spit) of the dog then I believe that they are. Even mixed with non shedding hair. (I read a few book's on this) It's been a while and this is to my knowledge of course if you know otherwise let me know.

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I thought you meant just a "mixed breed", not mixing breeds. In regard to what I originally thought (any Heinz variety) every single dog is an individual and a total mutt can be an awsome, healthy, loyal, intellegent friend for a lifetime.
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Right answer and the morkie has been sold for years now (that's actually an update pic) and the Yorkie has been reserved and will leave soon. Needless to day that not everyone feels the same way abotu mixed breeds and no one seems to be able to agree to disagree on this one (not even myself) But I try to explain my point of view anywho.

Even for the price there should be 1004 mixes and 2000$ mixes just like the pure bred puppies. clissified by quality. Of course by today's standards a pure bred at 100$ will probably be like my first yorkie (PEANUT) he has been spayed/neutered but that was a 350$ dog (Yorkshire Terrier) which I bought before starting this breeding. Over 14 years ago, he is HUGE!!!!! 15 pounds, trachea problems, hyp problems, luckyly no liver problems but not bred because brother died of liver shunt. We made the guy do DNA and it turns out his father was the son of his mother. (HIS BROTHER WAS ALSO HIS FATHER) Cost us a few hundred for DNA. This is when we got interested into getting a home kennel at first. And Peanut has lived a VERY LONG life considering all the issues he came with once he starts suffering (when trachea problems worsten) we will have no choice but to put him to sleep. JUST TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE ON HOW BAD A PURE BRED CAN BE AS WELL. I would send a picture but you do NOT want to see this.!!!

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Regarding the picture of the 2 dogs you just posted ... they are both adorable to me. I like the coloring of the bigger one and the smaller one is as cute as a bug in a rug.
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Thats what I thought too. But what I'm hearing now is that they are not 100 %hypoallergeic although people whom suffer from allergies to dogs have less problems from malt and yorkies. People whom are allergic to dogs are mostly having reactions to the dander and all dogs have have dander. Malts , yorkies, greyhounds and a few other breeds have less dander which some people tolerate better.
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YorkieRose I choose not to breed a mix because it takes a home away from the mix in the pound or Humane society.


A Poodle is a fine breed, so is a Maltese or a Pom, why breed it with a Yorkie to improve something that does not need to be improved..a waste of time IMO.[/I]
I am not trying to pick on you Pat but you give me a chance to make point with your post.

Breeding ANY dog, mix or purebred, takes a home away from a dog in the pound or Humane Society.

It is not a "waste of time" to breed a poodle and a maltese, imo, anymore than breeding two purebred dogs or a German Biewer and an American Parti. I love the look of a malti-poo. "Looks" seem to be what the purebred world is mostly about. These mixes are adorable so there is a "reason" for them.

If the law is to change because of over population, it will not discriminate, all breeding will be regulated to control the population, not just "mixed breed" breeding.
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After reading all ofyour posts this morning I am convinced that you are not just going to come out with it and say you breed these dogs purely for profit. You can spout off about health issues and how you think the mixed breed is a better dog than the purebred all day long and at the end of the day the bottom line is you do it to make money.
Nothing you can say is going to convince me otherwise.
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To me, Marc-o- seems very sincere and he seems to genuinely love dogs. I, for one, would not be so harsh as to say he "breeds these dogs PURELY for profit" anymore than I would make that judgment about a purebred breeder I did not know. I believe that to be in the "dog" business in any way, you have have a genuine passion for animals in general and dogs in particular.

I just thought that comment was a bit harsh.
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Thats what I thought too. But what I'm hearing now is that they are not 100 %hypoallergeic although people whom suffer from allergies to dogs have less problems from malt and yorkies. People whom are allergic to dogs are mostly having reactions to the dander and all dogs have have dander. Malts , yorkies, greyhounds and a few other breeds have less dander which some people tolerate better.
I have a Maltese and a Yorkie and my sister's husband is SEVERELY allergic to them. Everytime he comes over my house and plays with them, he starts sneezing, itching/scratching and his eyes get watery, etc. I also grew up with severe allergies but I've never had ANY problems whatsoever with my 2 pooches. But my friend has a Maltese/Yorkie mix that she got from a shelter and I'm really allergic to him.
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compare this to a car company who makes the next car, will you tell them don't put your next car model for sale you are improving something that is fine? or Will you view the next car model and if you don't like it you don't have to buy it?

Thank you for your opinion though your opinions are greatly apreciated

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