For those who doubted my breeding!

[TLC]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

That wasn't at all called for!

The reception you received here at YT has NOTHING to due with the fact that you made some mistakes with breeding, as we ALL make mistakes and none of us start out knowing everything. The risks that others have painstakingly taken the time to try to warn you and educate you about could have and still may end up being much more of an issue than you realize. From the first time you posted, members here have been bending over backwards to give you the advice you needed to hear, nothing more--members that have SEEN and EXPERIENCED the heartbreak and harshness of inexperienced breeding that you have been fortunate enough to avoid. Is the truth always pretty and always what you want to hear? No, it's not, but it is still important that you be aware of the dangers and prepared for anything that could come you're way, not for your own sake, but for your dogs'.
If you play with fire and risk with the life of your female and her pups and with luck on your side, you came out on top, even if only for the time being, that is something you should be THANKFUL for.
Arrrrgh! I am honestly at a loss for words here, as I don't know how else to convey to the seriousness of this whole situation and breeding in general and I seriously doubt it would matter or do any good anyway.

You are right about one thing though:


Yes, you are correct, there would be alot less yorkies in the world. Alot less with trachea issues, LP, congenial heart issues, liver shunt and all the other breed specific genetic disorders that so many seem all too willing to downplay and pass on to future generations of innocent dogs, not to mention unsuspecting owners who come on here with broken hearts describing.
GOOD breeders can pride themselves on taking extreme measures to do their part in eliminating such issues from their lines and protect the breed by only breeding dogs with backgrounds that prevent the continued spread of these disorders.
So in that aspect, I agree with you 100%. There would be fewer Yorkies in the world if more breeders were picky about what they bred.

GREAT POSTING!!!

[Gingergirlsmom]

OP, you truly haven't experienced b****** if the caring, helpful and honest comments here come across that way.

I for one, have been glued to this thread hoping to see a lightbulb come on. Sadly, that hasn't happened. You may look back at this in 10 years and say, "oh, NOW I get it". Perhaps time and maturity is what is needed.

As for the way the YT members have handled this, I think they've been extraordinary. Yes, I read the original thread. I wish you had done so with open eyes instead of being defensive.

Good luck to you and your pups.

[hha]

Yes, I myself took offense to that too, being called a bitch..?
And I would just like to add one little thing, you mentioned tea cup yorkies(there is NO such thing)

[chachi]

You still have pups that are going to potentially have genetc problems ( collapsed trachea and LP) that you are going to pass on to unsuspecting buyers

[daisy mae06]

Originally Posted by Gingergirlsmom

OP, you truly haven't experienced b****** if the caring, helpful and honest comments here come across that way.

I for one, have been glued to this thread hoping to see a lightbulb come on. Sadly, that hasn't happened. You may look back at this in 10 years and say, "oh, NOW I get it". Perhaps time and maturity is what is needed.

As for the way the YT members have handled this, I think they've been extraordinary. Yes, I read the original thread. I wish you had done so with open eyes instead of being defensive.

Good luck to you and your pups.

OP I have not Commented but watched the thread.

What Judy says here is Great and Very True.


Almost everyone just wanted to help and and you just Really took it all the Wrong way.
What can we say to you so you will see the Light?????
We care about the Dogs and the Puppies, First and foremost.
They give you advice and you take it as stabs to you. they were not.
But when you start Getting more and more Defencive It shows that you do want advice and that you feel you know it all.
Well I am 35 and you know what.. I feel that the day is waisted if I don't learn at least one thing new..
OP>........ Open your Mind reread the post and I hope you Learn a little. No one wants to hurt you but when you get hurtful It makes one think You were out for that in the beginning.
I wish Both you and your dogs Well.

[dogmomma]

I'm glad all went well! I raised several litters years ago of Yorkies that is. I only had the bitch and bred her with Ch stud, she went to the owner of the stud for breeding. I don't think I could let my Molly do that, I don't have to think about it because she is spayed. I did enjoy raising the puppies and hope you will enjoy yours. The worst is when the puppies left to new homes, I wanted to move in with them to make sure they took care of them right.

[Bizzymammabee]

To my fellow "B's" as we have been so ignorantly called:

Listen first and foremost the OP is not listening to a dang thing that has been said. I read the first thread and just finished reading this one. The person sounds rather immature, naive and rather ignorant to me. I would just not waste my breath anymore. I will say a prayer for the babies and their future owners. I too have had a sick dog in the past and I know the heartache and expense that came from it. I pray that those pups future owners are spared that.

She definitely did post this thread as a sort of na na na post. But you know what it just also adds to how immature she is.

Hopefully she will wise up and not 1) see the money made from breeding, 2) the cuteness of wanting to see her babies babies and 3) wanting to have her babies have some experience and realize that she is just a BYB. She is not doing anything to better the breed and definitely breeding a line of dogs that most likely will have genetic problems. How can someone think that Collapsing Trachea and LP are not a problem that can be passed on.

Amazing because she has her baby's pedigree that she thinks that it's all good to breed him/her. Wow is all I can say.

I would suggest that everyone no longer waste their time in offering her sage advice. Like a small child it goes in one ear and out the other because it's not what she wants to hear.

[jp4m2]

That's a class act page you got there on my space....

[Nikki+2]

I just went to her myspace and apparently we're not the only ones she has problems with.

[mechchic3]

I am absolutely shocked and appalled that you would have the gall to call out the "B" word to people who have tried to help and offer you sound advice. How dare you curse at other fellow YT's who have nothing but the best interest of the male and female yorkie as well as the pups at heart. It dosen't take a rocket scientist to know that you don't breed a dog with any kind of health defects. That my dear is just plain common sense. Shame on you for being so rude. You have a lot of growing up to do!

[fannie]

but LOL everyone watched out for the littlest things & didnt breed because of this or that, there would be ALOT less yorkies in the world.

As there should be. A LOT less yorkies with health problems if they would take breeding seriously. A LOT less yorkies that didn't fit the standard if they took breeding seriously.

Nobody is saying you CAN'T breed. Obviously anybody can. You have to be willing to learn. Regardless of how long you've been breeding. Wether it's your 1st time or if you've been breeding them for 40 yrs. There's ALWAYS room to learn. When you've decided there's nothing more to learn, that's when it's time to stop.

[MeganS]

What is this? a thread to gloat?

Congratulations on your litter, and I hope that they stay healthy and strong.

But I feel like the only reason you posted this was to say "Told you so!" how very mature.

If people like you took time to research the breed and the MANY genetic health problems, then there would be a lot less sick yorkies in the world that break people's hearts. My first yorkie had a liver shunt. We had him for a month and he died. And it was thanks to irresponsible breeding that we went through that pain. You don't seem to realize that just because your girl got through her pregnancy alright, your pups won't have health problems. As the person who brought them into the world, YOU are responsible to make sure that their future owners know and are aware of the fact that they may have problems like colapsing trachea and LP. That isn't something you can hide from them. You also need to tell them that you didn't have the proper tests done before you bred her. They need to be prepared to fight an uphill battle. I hope that nothing happens to your pups, but reality is that it is VERY possible that something may go wrong.

I am angry that you would come on here and make a mockery of the breeding practices of our expieranced breeders who put time and effort into the breed, and studied for years before they had a litter. No body knows everything, but they know SOMETHING and you would be very, very wise to get off your horse and listen to them.

[BamaFan121s]

Ah, once again Megan proving that age is not always an indication of ones maturity level and that they are not always directly connected.

[Gingergirlsmom]

Originally Posted by MeganS

What is this? a thread to gloat?

Congratulations on your litter, and I hope that they stay healthy and strong.

But I feel like the only reason you posted this was to say "Told you so!" how very mature.

If people like you took time to research the breed and the MANY genetic health problems, then there would be a lot less sick yorkies in the world that break people's hearts. My first yorkie had a liver shunt. We had him for a month and he died. And it was thanks to irresponsible breeding that we went through that pain. You don't seem to realize that just because your girl got through her pregnancy alright, your pups won't have health problems. As the person who brought them into the world, YOU are responsible to make sure that their future owners know and are aware of the fact that they may have problems like colapsing trachea and LP. That isn't something you can hide from them. You also need to tell them that you didn't have the proper tests done before you bred her. They need to be prepared to fight an uphill battle. I hope that nothing happens to your pups, but reality is that it is VERY possible that something may go wrong.

I am angry that you would come on here and make a mockery of the breeding practices of our expieranced breeders who put time and effort into the breed, and studied for years before they had a litter. No body knows everything, but they know SOMETHING and you would be very, very wise to get off your horse and listen to them.

Megan,

Well said. No one will ever be able to accuse you of needing to grow up. Your parents must be very proud of you. I know YT members are.

[4doggiemama]

And a lot less Yorkies given to rescue because of health problems or social problems because of indiscriminate selling. I have two rescue Yorkies with many issues.