Does Size Really Matter? - Page 4 - YorkieTalk.com Forums

Nikki+2 · 11-06-2007, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by KathyinCali

I think it is a natural curiosity for new owners and what better place to ask than a room full of Yorkie Lovers

There are as many questions about color on here as far as I can tell....I haven't been on here very long but so far I haven't seen anyone get the opinion that their Yorkie will be bigger and say "OMG I'm going to have to take her/him back"! Maybe there have been but I haven't read it yet.

I think too that many of us (well at least myself) came to YT having a misconception of what is "small". 5-7 lbs. sounded big to me when I got here but after meeting people with 5 lbs. Yorkies they really are "small". My own perception of size has changed since coming here. I have a 3.5 lb 8 month old and hoping she gains another 1/2 lb or so. At this point I'm smitten and don't care how big she ends up...lol

There are occasionally people who come on here very upset that their dog is bigger than they expected but it really isn't all that often- although when it does, it's pretty awful. Once you have a dog I don't know how you wouldn't love it regardless of it's size. I agree with you that most of the questions about size are asked out of curiosity and I really don't think it is out of line for people to hope that their dog will fall in the standard.

Bruce's_Mom · 11-06-2007, 10:20 AM

When I purchased Bruce, or rather when he was purchased for me, we were told he would reach about 5-6 pounds full grown...He is now a rather large 12...I LOVE HIM AT HIS SIZE!!! I think he is the best ever and would not change him for the world!!!

However, what I think a lot of people get upset about is being misled by breeders when they are inexperienced...Which just underscores the fact that they should do their homework first if it is going to be a big deal to them...I think however most people are just curious, because coming on a site like YT you see such a huge range in sizes...

I just think that it is personality that counts most, and boy do yorkies have personality!!!

Nikki+2 · 11-06-2007, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ples

I did not mean to be harsh and I think this is a wonderful place to ask questions and receive advice. I do it myself. I would think everyone would agree it takes just a little time to find out the basics about a breed, any breed, or any type of animal for that matter, before we buy. There is wonderful information available to everyone about what can be expected from certain breeds. I apologize if I seemed harsh, but I do believe that research before we buy is only common sense.

I think you are probably responding to me and I hope I didn't comae across harsh to you.

You are so right- it is common sense to research a breed before you buy it but a lot of people do research and find that the yorkie standard is not to exceed 7 lbs and typically 5-6 lbs and have no idea that that might not be what they end up with. They might assume that is how most yorkies are but unfortunately with them being bred left and right by uneducated breeders that just isn't the case. If I was starting my yorkie search for the first time, I would look no further than right here at YT where most of the breeders are knowledgable and responsible but most people starting out have no idea of all of the poor breeders out there.

BTW, welcome to YT!

Mybabyboymax · 11-06-2007, 10:30 AM

Im guilty of coming to YT and trying to find out how big max would get. Its actually how I found YT, I did a search on google on yorkie size and was given a link to YT. I had him 2 days and was curious if I was going to end up with a yorkie that I originally wanted. his health was my main concern but I did want a smaller yorkie. I didn't want a 10-15 pound dog, I see so many people feel like they have to justify getting a smaller yorkie and they really shouldnt have to. some people like the bigger yorkies and go out and get just that, some want a smaller one and go out and get just that. I don't see the problem. Max weighs 3 pounds at 11 months and thats what I wanted. Now if he has a growth spurt and gets to 10+ thats ok because I love him and I wouldn't trade him in for anything! I do see a problem with those that end up with a bigger dog and complain and want to give them up. I would personally never do that but I would be upset because that isnt what I paid for. If I wanted a 10-15 pound yorkie I would have paid way less.but it wouldnt make me love him any less.

alex_143 · 11-06-2007, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Meggie

I think to a certain extent that size does matter.
The Kennel Club standard, & I presume the American one too, says "up to 7lb"
and I think the aim at least should be to breed within the standard. I know not all puppies turn out that way, but I think the aim at least should be to try to preserve the breed as it was intended by the people who went to all the trouble to develop this lovely little breed.
There will always be puppies born that grow bigger, bound to happen when there are Clydesdales, Paisleys etc in the ancestry, and these make perfect pets for people who want a more robust little dog. But if you don't consider size then the breed could alter beyond being a toy dog, there are lots you see over here that are as big as my Cairns & wouldn't look out of place being shown in the terrier group.

I suppose I am a bit overly concerned about preserving breeds. This is because my other breed, Skye Terriers which I show & breed, has now been placed on the "Native Breeds At Risk" register at the Kennel Club it is so in danger of dying out. In some recent years there have been less than 50 puppies registered for the whole year, this year only two litters so far.

I know yorkies are more popular so not at risk but, being one of our native breeds here in the North of England, I would hate for them to change beyond recognition.

i didnt know the skye terrier was at risk of being extinct i want to get one

so since you breed and show them i want to ask you a few questions what is there temperment like? What is the standard weight for them? How much do they go for i live in cali so i know price is diff every where

yorkiegirl83 · 11-06-2007, 12:51 PM

I'm not big into size, but this last time when I went looking for my yorkie, who will be the last addition to my family for many many years, I knew what I was looking for. I wanted a full grown yorkie around 4 lbs, which is basically what it seems I am getting (unless she has a major growth spurt). She is at 3.8 now at 8.5 months and hasn't gained more than a few .oz in the past 3 months.

I feel like it's ok to want the size dog you want, as long as you are not purely buying from someone based on size. You also need to check out the lines of the parents, the breeder, ect -- then go from there and be prepared to wait for the dog you want.

I think a lot of times people want one right now, so they rush into it hoping their dog will be all that they dreamed of, then find that's not the reality.

Ples · 11-06-2007, 01:10 PM

Actually, I wasn't even referring to size when I said people should do some research, I absolutely agree people should get what they want and what they pay for and it is very interesting to hear everyone's experiences regarding size. I was also curious what size my babies would be. I was referring to much more basic questions that can be answered before we buy like whether the breed will really fit your lifestyle and family. I didn't know about YT when I started looking, many, many years ago, but I did do the basic research, and back then I actually had to leave my house and go to a library!! HA! It would be my wish everyone could know about YT before they buy. I am going through a horrible experience with my Yorkies at the present time, so I am very emotional about things and especially about unethical breeders. In my case, I bred my babies not knowing my beautiful, registered, purebred female was the carrier of a genetic disease that has been passed down to her three puppies. I have learned the hard way, but I do know I wish I had found you all long ago.

buddybramble · 11-06-2007, 01:11 PM

size mattered to me aswell. I didn't want a tiny yorkie, i love the breed but wanted a bigger one that could ruff and tumble with my kids without us worrying all the time about accidents, plus we love walking and tiny little legs just wouldnt be up to it.

sophia11 · 11-06-2007, 01:11 PM

i don't care what size it is. a yorkies a yorkie. size cant change that!!

chachi · 11-06-2007, 01:20 PM

It is usually fine if someone says they want a larger yorkie but if someone wants a smaller yorkie it is because of their vanity and so on. I just dont think thats true. I think there are enough yorkies of all sizes to please everyone. Ijust dont think people wanting smaller yorkies should have to justify themselves. Or people that want a dog thats weight is in the standard

Nikki+2 · 11-06-2007, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ples

Actually, I wasn't even referring to size when I said people should do some research, I absolutely agree people should get what they want and what they pay for and it is very interesting to hear everyone's experiences regarding size. I was also curious what size my babies would be. I was referring to much more basic questions that can be answered before we buy like whether the breed will really fit your lifestyle and family. I didn't know about YT when I started looking, many, many years ago, but I did do the basic research, and back then I actually had to leave my house and go to a library!! HA! It would be my wish everyone could know about YT before they buy. I am going through a horrible experience with my Yorkies at the present time, so I am very emotional about things and especially about unethical breeders. In my case, I bred my babies not knowing my beautiful, registered, purebred female was the carrier of a genetic disease that has been passed down to her three puppies. I have learned the hard way, but I do know I wish I had found you all long ago.

Oh, okay. I assumed you were referring to size since that's what this thread is about.

Meggie · 11-07-2007, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by alex_143

i didnt know the skye terrier was at risk of being extinct i want to get one

so since you breed and show them i want to ask you a few questions what is there temperment like? What is the standard weight for them? How much do they go for i live in cali so i know price is diff every where

They are much bigger than Yorkies. Not very tall but much longer than tall, think of a big dog on very short legs.Similar build to a Basset but with a dense long coat that sweeps the ground & ears very like a Papillon. they are only about 10 inches tall but, head to tail are about 42 inches long.
They are also heavy, though the weight isn't included in their standard in the UK, they are well over 30 lb & some of the dogs can be bigger. Their deep bark is pretty impressive

The temperament is completely different to Yorkies, being a proper terrier rather than a toy dog. But they are most notable for being very much a "one man dog". Very loyal to their owner, but extremely reserved with strangers. If someone comes to visit, the Yorkies are all over them making friends but my Skyes will just sit at a distance, watching but not approaching, weighing them up. But they're not aggressive at all, or feisty like Jack Russells, just extremely wary & reserved.

I don't know if they are at risk in America, I know they have been popular in the past over there, but they are on the Vulnerable Native Breed list at the Kennel Club.
Here you would pay about £500 for a puppy, the same as a Yorkie & most other pedigree breeds here.

I hope this link works to the breed standard at the Kennel Club

The one on the illustration is black, but the lighter colours have black points....ears, muzzle etc, which looks lovely. Mine are the lighter colours, i have creams & light greys, all with the black ears & points.

Vulnerable Native Breeds
http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/item/808

Skye Terrier standard
http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/item/85

Hope this has helped

yorkiekist · 11-07-2007, 01:03 AM

Check out the Skye Terrier Club of America!! I used to show Skyes as well. They are not almost extinct here, but VERY few litters are produced each year. Sometimes only 2 or 3 litters. I dont recommend having them around Yorkies. Most Skyes are good quality as the STCA has been extremely careful not to let them get into the hands of back yard breeders. Good luck!!!

sweetr72 · 11-07-2007, 01:12 AM

I dont think it hurts to ask...its kinda fun playing the guessing game..I think most of us have asked that question "how big do you think?" many times..I didnt ask because I WANTED mine to stay tiny or get big..I just asked for fun..for guesses...to talk about my furkid...this is a public forum and everyone is free to ask away!! I find that if you dont like a topic dont post on it...we have that option...

Dawn

yorkiekist · 11-07-2007, 01:17 AM

Size must REALLY matter for most people it seems. When I get calls on Yorkies, the first thing out of the callers mouth is: how big will they get, then how much and then will you take less. Thats when I just hang up.

11-06-2007, 10:20 AM	#47
Bruce's_Mom YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 779	When I purchased Bruce, or rather when he was purchased for me, we were told he would reach about 5-6 pounds full grown...He is now a rather large 12...I LOVE HIM AT HIS SIZE!!! I think he is the best ever and would not change him for the world!!! However, what I think a lot of people get upset about is being misled by breeders when they are inexperienced...Which just underscores the fact that they should do their homework first if it is going to be a big deal to them...I think however most people are just curious, because coming on a site like YT you see such a huge range in sizes... I just think that it is personality that counts most, and boy do yorkies have personality!!! __________________ Bruce's Dogster Page http://www.dogster.com/?177273

11-06-2007, 10:30 AM	#49
Mybabyboymax Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 1,859	Im guilty of coming to YT and trying to find out how big max would get. Its actually how I found YT, I did a search on google on yorkie size and was given a link to YT. I had him 2 days and was curious if I was going to end up with a yorkie that I originally wanted. his health was my main concern but I did want a smaller yorkie. I didn't want a 10-15 pound dog, I see so many people feel like they have to justify getting a smaller yorkie and they really shouldnt have to. some people like the bigger yorkies and go out and get just that, some want a smaller one and go out and get just that. I don't see the problem. Max weighs 3 pounds at 11 months and thats what I wanted. Now if he has a growth spurt and gets to 10+ thats ok because I love him and I wouldn't trade him in for anything! I do see a problem with those that end up with a bigger dog and complain and want to give them up. I would personally never do that but I would be upset because that isnt what I paid for. If I wanted a 10-15 pound yorkie I would have paid way less.but it wouldnt make me love him any less. __________________ Its SummerTime!

11-06-2007, 01:11 PM	#53
buddybramble Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Essex, England Posts: 156	size mattered to me aswell. I didn't want a tiny yorkie, i love the breed but wanted a bigger one that could ruff and tumble with my kids without us worrying all the time about accidents, plus we love walking and tiny little legs just wouldnt be up to it. __________________ Lyn & Buddy

11-06-2007, 01:11 PM	#54
sophia11 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: new york Posts: 75	i don't care what size it is. a yorkies a yorkie. size cant change that!! __________________ Sammi McDonough mommy of sophia sister of captain riley and dog-lover to all

11-06-2007, 01:20 PM	#55
chachi I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 37,147	It is usually fine if someone says they want a larger yorkie but if someone wants a smaller yorkie it is because of their vanity and so on. I just dont think thats true. I think there are enough yorkies of all sizes to please everyone. Ijust dont think people wanting smaller yorkies should have to justify themselves. Or people that want a dog thats weight is in the standard __________________ Chachi's & Jewels Mom Jewels http://www.dogster.com/?132431 Chachi http://www.dogster.com/?132427

11-06-2007, 12:51 PM	#51
yorkiegirl83 Love My Furbabies! Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: somewhere Posts: 4,427	I'm not big into size, but this last time when I went looking for my yorkie, who will be the last addition to my family for many many years, I knew what I was looking for. I wanted a full grown yorkie around 4 lbs, which is basically what it seems I am getting (unless she has a major growth spurt). She is at 3.8 now at 8.5 months and hasn't gained more than a few .oz in the past 3 months. I feel like it's ok to want the size dog you want, as long as you are not purely buying from someone based on size. You also need to check out the lines of the parents, the breeder, ect -- then go from there and be prepared to wait for the dog you want. I think a lot of times people want one right now, so they rush into it hoping their dog will be all that they dreamed of, then find that's not the reality.

11-06-2007, 01:10 PM	#52
Ples Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Thurmont, MD Posts: 68	Actually, I wasn't even referring to size when I said people should do some research, I absolutely agree people should get what they want and what they pay for and it is very interesting to hear everyone's experiences regarding size. I was also curious what size my babies would be. I was referring to much more basic questions that can be answered before we buy like whether the breed will really fit your lifestyle and family. I didn't know about YT when I started looking, many, many years ago, but I did do the basic research, and back then I actually had to leave my house and go to a library!! HA! It would be my wish everyone could know about YT before they buy. I am going through a horrible experience with my Yorkies at the present time, so I am very emotional about things and especially about unethical breeders. In my case, I bred my babies not knowing my beautiful, registered, purebred female was the carrier of a genetic disease that has been passed down to her three puppies. I have learned the hard way, but I do know I wish I had found you all long ago.

11-07-2007, 01:03 AM	#58
yorkiekist YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: HOT, HOT, HOT AZ Posts: 3,150	Check out the Skye Terrier Club of America!! I used to show Skyes as well. They are not almost extinct here, but VERY few litters are produced each year. Sometimes only 2 or 3 litters. I dont recommend having them around Yorkies. Most Skyes are good quality as the STCA has been extremely careful not to let them get into the hands of back yard breeders. Good luck!!!

11-07-2007, 01:12 AM	#59
sweetr72 No Longer a Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 6,111	I dont think it hurts to ask...its kinda fun playing the guessing game..I think most of us have asked that question "how big do you think?" many times..I didnt ask because I WANTED mine to stay tiny or get big..I just asked for fun..for guesses...to talk about my furkid...this is a public forum and everyone is free to ask away!! I find that if you dont like a topic dont post on it...we have that option... Dawn

11-07-2007, 01:17 AM	#60
yorkiekist YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: HOT, HOT, HOT AZ Posts: 3,150	Size must REALLY matter for most people it seems. When I get calls on Yorkies, the first thing out of the callers mouth is: how big will they get, then how much and then will you take less. Thats when I just hang up.