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isevilla · 10-19-2006, 08:28 PM

Ok this is a little weird and I dont really understand why she does it. My 4 mo old is pretty much potty trained. Ive had her about 3 wks now and she for the most part will go to her litter box to pee and poop on a regular basis. She was going each and everyday even in the middle of the night on her own for about a week. Then all of a sudden its one day yes and one day no.

All of a sudden she started to pee or poop where ever and will just forget about the box entirely. So I would take her to her accident shake the collar a bit and tell her no, then I would take her to her box, then to the crate for a 10 min timeout. Once let out from the time out she is great very sweet, passive and goes to litter box till maybe the next day she will have accidents again. I then do the timeout thing all over again. She will spent lets say one day with constant timeouts and then the next day be sweet as pie and going to the box each and everytime. I dont get it. Obviously she knows she is getting punished for making the accidents because her attitude completely changes afterwards but why she continues to do them if not reminded each and everyday is beyond me.

Im stumped

MyTrixie143 · 10-20-2006, 12:11 AM

Alot of the time they will go back to having accidents. You just need to start the training over and remember to be consistent. Rather than letting her go there on her own, take her to her litter box every so often to see if she has to go. Try to be as consistent as you can so she will learn to be consistent.
As for the punishing thing, I woulden't do it. It never works and just confuses them. Just clean up the mess and take her to her litter box. Try not to give her the opportunity to have an accident. Watch her like a hawk or tether her to yourself and when she starts looking around or giving a sign she has to go, take her to her litter box and praise and reward her if she goes. With alot of puppies, you have to be consistent for a long time up until they are a year old. If you are not consistent, they can and will break their training.

tomf1697 · 10-20-2006, 12:19 AM

4 months old is still very young, and if you've only had her for 3 weeks, she's still getting adjusted to her new home. It may be too large of an area for her to always remember where to find her litterbox.

Are you crate training or does she get run of the house? I wouldn't give a 4 month old run of the house if that's the case.

When you can't always keep an eye on her, you might want to keep her in a crate or a smaller room with her litterbox. A small room or bathroom with tile floors will make clean ups easier if she has an accident.

Another thing is, you want to praise and reward her with a small treat when she uses the litterbox. Tasty treats will always work better than punishment for any kind of training.

isevilla · 10-20-2006, 06:40 AM

When I first got her which was about 3 wks ago I would leave her in the crate and take her out by leash every two hours or so. She would do fine so I started to let her come out on her own and walk with her to the bathroom and she was doing fine then too. She is still somewhat getting crate trained but I do give times of the day when she can run around either in the kitchen area or open up the living room to her. This is usually only for about an hour or so or when I know she just went to the box.

Her crate is located in the kitchen which is connected to a dining room as well. The area where she is located is about 20X20 maybe even larger than that and add a short hallway. The bathroom is about 20 feet away from her crate. I block off my living room which is carpeted with a baby gate and close all the doors from the bedrooms and office. She only gets to go into the living room if I or someone else is in there with her. Lately I have been keeping her in the kitchen/dining room areas only. I also feed her in the kitchen as well but dont leave the bowls there. I take them up as soon as she is done eating or within 30 minutes or so if she didnt want to eat.

I noticed that when she is hyper and playing with my baby thats when she makes her accidents esp when in the living room. I dont mind so much if it happens in the kitchen or dining area or bathroom because its all tiled but the living room is carpeted.

I didnt want to place the crate in the bathroom because its cold in there and where its located right now is close to a heater vent which is warmer for her.

I really didnt want her to be on a leash the whole time and strapped to me or in the crate all the time either. So, I tried to give her a little freedom but it seems she is taking a yard instead of an inch.

This morning she woke me up by barking short semi soft barks. I got up and let her out and she went straight for the litter box and pooped and peed then came to me in the kitchen all excited like come and see what I did. So I followed her to the box and then praised her like crazy by petting and telling her good girl.

Anything I should do differently or change?

Thanks for all the advice and replies

Is.

Ladylavender · 10-20-2006, 07:45 AM

Never punish her after the fact. If you don't catch her in the act of making the mistake or error, you will need to "let it go" and clean it up. There is no training taking place if you are punishing her 1 minute or longer after she has gone potty. All you are doing is teaching her to be afraid of you for no reason. Of course her demeanor is apologetic after the punishment, but not because she knows what she did wrong, but for something that got you mad.

When you do catch her in the act, slap your hands together sharply and say "NO!" very loudly and take her to her box to finish up. Only then can she associate the deed with the discipline.

If you are giving her free time, that's ok, but you will need to keep a close eye on her. You cannot give her free time (at this age) and not supervise her. Because while she is learning to be litter boxed trained, she really is NOT trained yet (otherwise she would not keep having mistakes) and it may take several more months, before she is.

So as stated above, you are just going to have to be in "potty training" mode for a few more weeks or months. Consistency is key and you need to make sure she has more successes than failures. So you need to keep showing her the litterbox on a schedule so that you make sure the successes keep happening.

It's really exhausting and a chore, but well worth the effort in the long run.

Praising her is excellent when she does do the correct behavior so keep that up.

She seems like a real smart little girl and I think she will catch on before too long!

JeanieK · 10-20-2006, 08:04 AM

First of all. dogs don't understand time outs, or delayed punishment. If you catch them in the act a firm NO, will be all the punishment needed. If you don't catch them in the act then forget it.

Second just because they are trained in one room of the house, does not mean they are trained in another room. keep them cnfined to a amaller area with a hard surface floor until there are NO accidents, then gradually expand. Mine ar 8 and 10 months old, and I still don't give them the run of the house.

JeanieK · 10-20-2006, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ladylavender

Never punish her after the fact. If you don't catch her in the act of making the mistake or error, you will need to "let it go" and clean it up. There is no training taking place if you are punishing her 1 minute or longer after she has gone potty. All you are doing is teaching her to be afraid of you for no reason. Of course her demeanor is apologetic after the punishment, but not because she knows what she did wrong, but for something that got you mad.

When you do catch her in the act, slap your hands together sharply and say "NO!" very loudly and take her to her box to finish up. Only then can she associate the deed with the discipline.

If you are giving her free time, that's ok, but you will need to keep a close eye on her. You cannot give her free time (at this age) and not supervise her. Because while she is learning to be litter boxed trained, she really is NOT trained yet (otherwise she would not keep having mistakes) and it may take several more months, before she is.

So as stated above, you are just going to have to be in "potty training" mode for a few more weeks or months. Consistency is key and you need to make sure she has more successes than failures. So you need to keep showing her the litterbox on a schedule so that you make sure the successes keep happening.

It's really exhausting and a chore, but well worth the effort in the long run.

Praising her is excellent when she does do the correct behavior so keep that up.

She seems like a real smart little girl and I think she will catch on before too long!

Excellent advice. There are no short cuts.

isabel07 · 11-13-2006, 09:54 PM

My Rocky is a boy he is 4 mos. old, I got him when he was 12 wks old and started him in a play pen with he's food, water, bed and pad, and then I put all that a side and used the play pen in the morning and then let him out during the day and has had the run of the house, and I can't catch him all the time, and Im having a hard time potty training him there are days he goes were he is suppose to and then the next day hes all over the place, and he might pee on the pad one day and poop on the rug, and visa versa the next time, I get up set with him and tell him no-no! and take him to what ever he does, and then take him to the pad, and now I see he's trying to eat his poop. so now I'm so confused. My carpet I know is a mess from him peeing all over the place. I have not read where any one else is having that proplem. HELP!!! I don't know what to do any more except shampoo my carpet and try and get the smell up, and see if that will help, oh! and when I do take him out side he does go poop and pee, but! I want him to be trained on the pads,and I never have tryed the litter box or tray. I would put a picture but I haven't learned how to do that jet .

tofubabiee · 11-13-2006, 10:12 PM

When my dog was 3 months old, i left him in the kitchen. and when im lookin i let him out in the living room. He made accidents at 3 -4 months. Puppies sometimes can't hold their bladder. But when he does make an accident i bring him to the accident, make sure he looks at it and then bring him to the box. Then i ignore him for a bit, make no eye contact. Personaly, i dont like crates. But i heard it works great

tofubabiee · 11-13-2006, 10:15 PM

Oh, Isabel. Since Rocky is not that consistent with the pad. No more run of the house. Just leave him in the playpen. And when u are there to supervise him. Then let him out. When i had Brownie, Same thing happened at 4 months. I had to leave him in the kitchen again.. until he def. makes no accidents. Now he is almost 8 months and never makes accidents. its all about conditioning. They dont do it for vengance.

isevilla · 11-13-2006, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by isabel07

My Rocky is a boy he is 4 mos. old, I got him when he was 12 wks old and started him in a play pen with he's food, water, bed and pad, and then I put all that a side and used the play pen in the morning and then let him out during the day and has had the run of the house, and I can't catch him all the time, and Im having a hard time potty training him there are days he goes were he is suppose to and then the next day hes all over the place, and he might pee on the pad one day and poop on the rug, and visa versa the next time, I get up set with him and tell him no-no! and take him to what ever he does, and then take him to the pad, and now I see he's trying to eat his poop. so now I'm so confused. My carpet I know is a mess from him peeing all over the place. I have not read where any one else is having that proplem. HELP!!! I don't know what to do any more except shampoo my carpet and try and get the smell up, and see if that will help, oh! and when I do take him out side he does go poop and pee, but! I want him to be trained on the pads,and I never have tryed the litter box or tray. I would put a picture but I haven't learned how to do that jet .

First of all I love your name...Mine is Isabella

My Sox is now almost 5 months now and I have to say she is doing great now with going to her litter box. I noticed that she is getting much better at running to it when she has to go. Sometimes she will miss and it ends up at the rim or on the outside but she meant to get it there and thats better than nothing. I dont punish her when she goes outside of the box if I can tell she partially got it in there esp with poops. She has almost full run of the house with the exception of some rooms during the night since I cant supervise her while im sleeping but during the day she gets full run most of the time unless she is misbehaving with my baby. Since im home with her all day it was much easier to correct the accidents and that may be why she is doing so good.

There is light at the end of the tunnel for sure as I was in your shoes just a month or so ago.

isevilla · 11-13-2006, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tofubabiee

They dont do it for vengance.

I have to agree with this because it seemed that when Sox would get mad because she didnt get her way thats when I noticed she wouldnt care where she went. It was when I started to leash her to my pants and make her follow me around and or crate her that she started to realize that she wouldnt get to be unleashed or be able to run around on her own if she didnt behave. Everytime she would get fiesty i would either leash her and or crate her and she would get so upset. But then once out she would change her tune cause she knew she would go back to sqare one again.

lately she hasnt been crated or leashed and she is doing so much better.

10-19-2006, 08:28 PM	#1
isevilla Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Joliet, IL Posts: 52	Weird problem: Pees and Poops everywhere when let around house Ok this is a little weird and I dont really understand why she does it. My 4 mo old is pretty much potty trained. Ive had her about 3 wks now and she for the most part will go to her litter box to pee and poop on a regular basis. She was going each and everyday even in the middle of the night on her own for about a week. Then all of a sudden its one day yes and one day no. All of a sudden she started to pee or poop where ever and will just forget about the box entirely. So I would take her to her accident shake the collar a bit and tell her no, then I would take her to her box, then to the crate for a 10 min timeout. Once let out from the time out she is great very sweet, passive and goes to litter box till maybe the next day she will have accidents again. I then do the timeout thing all over again. She will spent lets say one day with constant timeouts and then the next day be sweet as pie and going to the box each and everytime. I dont get it. Obviously she knows she is getting punished for making the accidents because her attitude completely changes afterwards but why she continues to do them if not reminded each and everyday is beyond me. Im stumped

10-20-2006, 12:11 AM	#2
MyTrixie143 Mom to 6 Beautiful Furkids Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 5,409	Alot of the time they will go back to having accidents. You just need to start the training over and remember to be consistent. Rather than letting her go there on her own, take her to her litter box every so often to see if she has to go. Try to be as consistent as you can so she will learn to be consistent. As for the punishing thing, I woulden't do it. It never works and just confuses them. Just clean up the mess and take her to her litter box. Try not to give her the opportunity to have an accident. Watch her like a hawk or tether her to yourself and when she starts looking around or giving a sign she has to go, take her to her litter box and praise and reward her if she goes. With alot of puppies, you have to be consistent for a long time up until they are a year old. If you are not consistent, they can and will break their training. __________________ A dog is a furry person! http://www.dogster.com/?300866 Tracey and the gang DestinyHarmonyScamperGracieLillieKiwi Hershey Peppi

10-20-2006, 07:45 AM	#5
Ladylavender YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Soddy Daisy, TN Posts: 733	Never punish her after the fact. If you don't catch her in the act of making the mistake or error, you will need to "let it go" and clean it up. There is no training taking place if you are punishing her 1 minute or longer after she has gone potty. All you are doing is teaching her to be afraid of you for no reason. Of course her demeanor is apologetic after the punishment, but not because she knows what she did wrong, but for something that got you mad. When you do catch her in the act, slap your hands together sharply and say "NO!" very loudly and take her to her box to finish up. Only then can she associate the deed with the discipline. If you are giving her free time, that's ok, but you will need to keep a close eye on her. You cannot give her free time (at this age) and not supervise her. Because while she is learning to be litter boxed trained, she really is NOT trained yet (otherwise she would not keep having mistakes) and it may take several more months, before she is. So as stated above, you are just going to have to be in "potty training" mode for a few more weeks or months. Consistency is key and you need to make sure she has more successes than failures. So you need to keep showing her the litterbox on a schedule so that you make sure the successes keep happening. It's really exhausting and a chore, but well worth the effort in the long run. Praising her is excellent when she does do the correct behavior so keep that up. She seems like a real smart little girl and I think she will catch on before too long! Last edited by Ladylavender; 10-20-2006 at 07:47 AM.

11-13-2006, 09:54 PM	#8
isabel07 YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: joshua tree,ca Posts: 2	confused!! My Rocky is a boy he is 4 mos. old, I got him when he was 12 wks old and started him in a play pen with he's food, water, bed and pad, and then I put all that a side and used the play pen in the morning and then let him out during the day and has had the run of the house, and I can't catch him all the time, and Im having a hard time potty training him there are days he goes were he is suppose to and then the next day hes all over the place, and he might pee on the pad one day and poop on the rug, and visa versa the next time, I get up set with him and tell him no-no! and take him to what ever he does, and then take him to the pad, and now I see he's trying to eat his poop. so now I'm so confused. My carpet I know is a mess from him peeing all over the place. I have not read where any one else is having that proplem. HELP!!! I don't know what to do any more except shampoo my carpet and try and get the smell up, and see if that will help, oh! and when I do take him out side he does go poop and pee, but! I want him to be trained on the pads,and I never have tryed the litter box or tray. I would put a picture but I haven't learned how to do that jet .

10-20-2006, 12:19 AM	#3
tomf1697 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aurora,IL Posts: 13	4 months old is still very young, and if you've only had her for 3 weeks, she's still getting adjusted to her new home. It may be too large of an area for her to always remember where to find her litterbox. Are you crate training or does she get run of the house? I wouldn't give a 4 month old run of the house if that's the case. When you can't always keep an eye on her, you might want to keep her in a crate or a smaller room with her litterbox. A small room or bathroom with tile floors will make clean ups easier if she has an accident. Another thing is, you want to praise and reward her with a small treat when she uses the litterbox. Tasty treats will always work better than punishment for any kind of training.

10-20-2006, 06:40 AM	#4
isevilla Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Joliet, IL Posts: 52	When I first got her which was about 3 wks ago I would leave her in the crate and take her out by leash every two hours or so. She would do fine so I started to let her come out on her own and walk with her to the bathroom and she was doing fine then too. She is still somewhat getting crate trained but I do give times of the day when she can run around either in the kitchen area or open up the living room to her. This is usually only for about an hour or so or when I know she just went to the box. Her crate is located in the kitchen which is connected to a dining room as well. The area where she is located is about 20X20 maybe even larger than that and add a short hallway. The bathroom is about 20 feet away from her crate. I block off my living room which is carpeted with a baby gate and close all the doors from the bedrooms and office. She only gets to go into the living room if I or someone else is in there with her. Lately I have been keeping her in the kitchen/dining room areas only. I also feed her in the kitchen as well but dont leave the bowls there. I take them up as soon as she is done eating or within 30 minutes or so if she didnt want to eat. I noticed that when she is hyper and playing with my baby thats when she makes her accidents esp when in the living room. I dont mind so much if it happens in the kitchen or dining area or bathroom because its all tiled but the living room is carpeted. I didnt want to place the crate in the bathroom because its cold in there and where its located right now is close to a heater vent which is warmer for her. I really didnt want her to be on a leash the whole time and strapped to me or in the crate all the time either. So, I tried to give her a little freedom but it seems she is taking a yard instead of an inch. This morning she woke me up by barking short semi soft barks. I got up and let her out and she went straight for the litter box and pooped and peed then came to me in the kitchen all excited like come and see what I did. So I followed her to the box and then praised her like crazy by petting and telling her good girl. Anything I should do differently or change? Thanks for all the advice and replies Is.

10-20-2006, 08:04 AM	#6
JeanieK Donating YT 12K Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Council Bluffs Iowa Posts: 12,552	First of all. dogs don't understand time outs, or delayed punishment. If you catch them in the act a firm NO, will be all the punishment needed. If you don't catch them in the act then forget it. Second just because they are trained in one room of the house, does not mean they are trained in another room. keep them cnfined to a amaller area with a hard surface floor until there are NO accidents, then gradually expand. Mine ar 8 and 10 months old, and I still don't give them the run of the house.

11-13-2006, 10:12 PM	#9
tofubabiee YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 6	When my dog was 3 months old, i left him in the kitchen. and when im lookin i let him out in the living room. He made accidents at 3 -4 months. Puppies sometimes can't hold their bladder. But when he does make an accident i bring him to the accident, make sure he looks at it and then bring him to the box. Then i ignore him for a bit, make no eye contact. Personaly, i dont like crates. But i heard it works great

11-13-2006, 10:15 PM	#10
tofubabiee YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 6	Oh, Isabel. Since Rocky is not that consistent with the pad. No more run of the house. Just leave him in the playpen. And when u are there to supervise him. Then let him out. When i had Brownie, Same thing happened at 4 months. I had to leave him in the kitchen again.. until he def. makes no accidents. Now he is almost 8 months and never makes accidents. its all about conditioning. They dont do it for vengance.