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05-11-2018, 05:31 PM | #1 |
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| Annoying neighbor and their dog Hey guys, long time no see. I have been quite busy. I actually got maggie trained on quite a few areas like she doesn't have accidents anymore, and she doesn't try to eat crap off the floor anymore(unless it's something that's super interesting but she leaves it after a chew or two). My problem now is starting that our white dog(sasha) was never properly trained with things like barking at strangers amd their dogs... she was sort of socialized and she doesnt bite.... But in this new house our backdoor neighbor although a bit friendly at times.... is a little idk.... off putting.... Everytime we take our dog out into the yard for a quick trip to do their stuff.... 2-3 mims later without fail he leaves their dog unleashed on a poorly fenced yard. Its a big golden retriever and by the sounds of it he sounds pissed off, and sasha actually does try to ignore it but when it keeps going she goes off an tries to run at the fence..... She makes weird muffled noises because as I pull back, she pulls forward.... It is exceedingly annoying that he does that and he doesn't try to stop it. I have tried to keep away from him when I take her out.... its like he knows.... Ive tried different hours and he just without fail- if i go alone he doesnt take out the dog. If he sees me with my dogs he takes out his.... It's annoying the crap out of me because the dog barks at all of us in our own yard even if we dont do anything to it.... or even if we are alone.... An acquaintance of mine recommended a backyard bark sensor ultrasonic sound emitters near the fence..... and another friend whose also got this weird wolf dog says I should buy "wolf urine" and spray it on the corners of the fence heavily. Because all dogs(and dog like animals) will keep away from the property.... Not sure if it works or not but at this point I just want 100% relief from both sides. I am going to take her for re-training in a month or two but I want to do something about their dog. Our yard is relatively small and we have young ones who when they visit us with our relatives I dont want them to be traumatized by "the big scary dog". My niece is terrified of dogs because whenever we have people over they leave their dog out unsupervised ... |
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05-12-2018, 08:33 AM | #2 |
Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md
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| Honestly there is nothing you can do about someone else’s dog except complain about the noise to animal control. Dogs bark it’s what they do. Do you have her on a harness if not the noise she is making is probably her trachea and her choking with the pull. I don’t really suggest the unltrasonic bark things because your dog will also hear it. It terrified my dog when we tried to use one for a bark up house guest.
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05-12-2018, 10:47 AM | #3 |
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| 1. Redirect. One or more dogs lives behind my niece's house. Early on, when those dogs made noises, the larger ("Nellie") of her two dogs would bark. All the barking made for pretty unpleasant time. My niece's family was able to redirect their dogs energy. They taught her to play with toy rather than bark back. There were many treats involved initially ... now they just make sure she has an available toy. She'll usually keep the toy in her mouth until her urge to react has diminished. Since Nellie has mostly stopped her barking, the neighbors dogs rarely bark. When they do, it is for shorter durations. 2. Fencing. I don't have a good picture of what you describe as your neighbors "poorly fenced yard." Is this a fence that runs along the property line separating the two lots (yours and your neighbor's)? If that is the case, then your HOA or city codes likely give you the right to shore up problem areas on your side of the fence. When my late Katy was little, we had to add some protection in areas of our perimeter fence/gates. Home Depot had several options to choose from. We used a roll of durable plastic that had holes in it. It was probably three feet tall and came in desert friendly colors. We added that to the lower part of some wrought iron gates--making sure to drop it down far enough that the little rascal couldn't wiggle out. Hope my descriptions make sense. Would either of these approaches work for you? |
05-12-2018, 11:45 AM | #4 | |
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I used to have a harness but this is the family dog(the white one) and she pulls with so much force.... my mother has lupus and this is literally hurting her arms and shoulder... The lupus is recent. She's been with us for 8 years now. (i know it was 8 yrs because my brother gifted her to my mom during the time I started with my psychologist- about 2 months after). My mothers health has been degrading rapidly, Im mostly the one who walks the dog, but she does it in the morning. Our fence is in no way ready.... Id say our dogs are dumb enough to leave... but that'd be a lie. They're smart enough to know how to get out on their own.... I don't quite know what to do about that either. Thought about an invisible fence to be 100% certain they stay in our yard. If they leave, the chances of them surviving is imho less than 20%. Between living on a busy road, the fact there are bears around, and deer..... Really I want to make a fence so dog proof even a strong big dog like say a pitbull or a mastiff would not be able to dig through.... while keeping our scamps out of harms way. | |
05-12-2018, 11:53 AM | #5 | |
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It's a shared fence, no hoa, we live in the farmland/woodland boonies so I would really like a strong sturdy fence errected, maybe not super expensive..... I would love a barrier that goes underground about 4-5 ft deep so it cannot dig out, or some strong big dog dig in. As for redirecting I've tried... but lately the barking gets her agitated to the point she looks like she wants to bite. I mean she did have that bad experience in the last house..... | |
05-12-2018, 11:57 AM | #6 |
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| I need a 100% fool proof method on getting this behaviour, the non-stop barking, and the pulling on leash thing.... I feel like my hands aren't that good anymore.... Late last year I was walking to the bathroom and I slipped ... I put my hand out as to prevent myself from falling.... the hand took the brunt of the force.... I had a hair line fracture and a few other ones in the hand.... it never healed properly inspite of the splint.... fast forward to now... her pulling hurts my hands too. |
05-12-2018, 12:12 PM | #7 | |
Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md
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05-12-2018, 12:45 PM | #8 |
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| True, it's why I never used one. as for easy walk harness? I just don't want her arms to get hurt, but I also dont want my dog to get hurt either. |
05-12-2018, 01:58 PM | #9 |
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| Probably won’t help the barking, but pen, such as an Iris Xpen, might give your pup a place to do their business without being so bothered by the neighbors dog. I have a yellow thingie called an AOKEMAN SENSOR that sure shuts up the neighbors big dog when he goes after my Yorkie.
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05-12-2018, 02:19 PM | #10 | |
Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md
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__________________ Taylor My babies Joey, Penny ,Ollie & Dixie Callie Mae, you will forever be in my heart! | |
05-12-2018, 02:56 PM | #11 | |
Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md
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__________________ Taylor My babies Joey, Penny ,Ollie & Dixie Callie Mae, you will forever be in my heart! | |
05-12-2018, 03:06 PM | #12 | |
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As for actually attacking or about to? I don't want to take chances. I know it might seem paranoid but since that incident I am less inclined to trust owners who do things like that. Like he does try to stop the dog. But it's an empty effort.... Our fence isnt super secure. if he wanted to, he could easily dig in our yard and attack us. It only takes 1 time for something to happen for it to ruin things.... I would record and upload it, but my internet has been so terrible i can barely send photos... Also, I now have poison ivy growing through the yard. Was wondering if anyone knew a treatment to kill poison ivy without contaminating the soil. We have well water only. It could affect us and the dogs.... | |
05-12-2018, 07:00 PM | #13 | |
Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md
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You can’t tell by a bark if a dog is trying to be aggressive. I don’t think the neighbor sees any harm in just putting his dog in his own yard. I mean that is something people do everyday. If the fence was so bad and the dog really wanted to attack I think he would have by now. You could try writing a letter.
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05-13-2018, 04:11 AM | #14 | |
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The crazy neighbors dog only attacked once..... and he seemed fine when he entered our house. Moment my mom went to go outside he went crazy and tried to attack her. But instead got sasha. Our neighbor- while not crazy is rather careless and leaves their dog unattended for hours in the yard sometimes.... I just dont want their dog instigating, or potentially going in our yard...but on the other side of the coin i dont want sasha to keep being so reactive and defensive....I dont want to hurt either dog. I just dont want them to bother each other. I wonder if that wolf urine trick my acquaintance swears by works for keeping dogs at bay.... They sell it at hunting stores. As for the bark, I notice he barks differently at us than our dogs. When its us it sounds excited and hyper. When at our dogs, it sounds deeper and slower. Last edited by FlyingNimbus; 05-13-2018 at 04:12 AM. | |
05-13-2018, 06:53 AM | #15 |
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| Hi FlyingNimbus, I'm so sorry you have to have these concerns. Hope things improve for you. As an adult, I've raised a beagle, an Irish setter, a big furry mutt, a Lhasa and then my little Katy. Now, I live in an area where summer is synonymous with extreme heat and/or very dry and hot weather, so even dogs who mostly live outdoors (somewhat larger dogs) come inside during the day (and some nights) quite a bit. While they spent time inside, I considered our beagle, setter and big furry mutt to be "outdoor dogs"--they spent most of their time in a well fenced yard with ready access to fresh water and good food. I trust that didn't make me cruel or careless. More on fence. Given your further description, it sounds as though you are more concerned the dogs will access your property by digging under the fence (as opposed to traversing through it). I surmise your perimeter fencing doesn't have more or less a continuous footing. My little plastic rolls would not prevent a dog from digging under a fence without a footing. Have you considered adding concrete curbing to the problem area on your side of the fence? See "CreateACurb." |
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