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Old 01-24-2012, 05:57 AM   #1
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Hi,
I initially posted this in the general forum and probably should have posted it here instead. Sorry!

You may recall my initial post last week about my new pup. She's 9 weeks old now and is doing great. I do have a few questions though.

As I mentioned last week, I'm using the Potty Training Puppy Apartment (Modern Puppies - Potty Training a Puppy) for her. She has done well with this as she has never used the potty in her "bedroom." Many times when we anticipate her needing to go potty, we'll put her in the apartment on her puppy pads and she will go potty. We praise her and give her treats, etc. One would think that she'd be ready to come back out and play for awhile without having to worry about her having an accident, but nope! It seems like she can pee every 10 minutes if she wanted to. My point is, I can never relax when she's out because I have the constant fear that she's going to squat and pee or poop. She's also started the habit of going under our couch and pooping. Yes, we've been using Nature's Miracle for every accident. I need a pep talk here.....is this mostly just due to her being so young and needing to go so often? There are also times when we'll put a baby gate on the door to our washroom. During this time, it seems that 75% of the time she will pee/poop on the tile near the gate, rather than go to her pad. When we see her have an accident, we of course tell her "No!". Is this normal behavior for a 9 week old puppy? I know I should be patient, as this is a long process, just making sure I'm doing the right things though.

Also, she can be a very loving pup. As all pups do, she likes to playfully chew, etc. However, there are times when it seems she just gets mad! She will growl and show her teeth as if she wants to bite us. There are certainly times that she will bark/growl while she is playing, but the example I'm referring to seems like aggression. She does not mind getting a bath, nor getting brushed. But, when you try to put a bow or a sweater on her, she gets very angry and tries to bite. Again, is this typical?

Thanks for your thoughts!
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first off - i am by no means an expert but i thought i would tell you what is working for us. Darby is almost 12wks now and having very few accidents. i decided not to use the pads and go straight for the outdoors. anyway - she also pees alot. we have gotten into the habit of waiting for her "2nd pee". she will pee twice in one outing outside. i thought it weird too. if we are rushed and don't wait for the "2nd pee" she will have an accident - its like she holds some of it. also - we take her out every hr when she not in crate. and for the last 15 min of that hr one of my kids is holding her cause we found that 15 min period to be the "witching hour" and anything could happen. soe we have 45 kmin when we know we are good and she can play freely. i also have my kids hold her immediately after eating for 20 minutes then take her out. this works because sometimes she would have to go poop right after eating and other times it would be 20 min later. so holding her keeps her with us but no danger of accidents.
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With Sukie if we noticed she was having an accident in the same place more then twice we would put a puppy pad in that place. She is still training but we went from 10 pads in places to now only 3 so we are getting there! Is there anyway to put a pad under the couch or block off the living room with a gate? She is SO young right now and honestly yorkies are stubborn and hard to train.

The thing is if you see a mess but she didn't JUST do it within a few seconds clean it up and say NOTHING. The reason why is because she doesn't know what she is doing wrong. Also when you do see her use a pad go crazy reward her with a treat give her kisses make a HUGE deal out of it this will help her want to use the pad more. Another thing is because of her age she might pee out of excitment during playtime. Just say "NO" if you see her doing it and move her to her pad and give her a treat. Anytime she is sniffing the pad I would give her a treat. This is what we do with Sukie and she has been accident free for 3 weeks and is 4.5 months old. The reason she would have an accident within the last two months is if I was cleaning and removed the pads from her "spots" she had learned though that they are in certain spots.

For the clothing and bows. Sukie did the same thing! The trick is to teach them this is a GOOD thing. I would keep cherrios on hand and when I was trying to dress her and she would start to growl and bite I would say "No, Good girl" and give her a cherrio, within a few days she LOVED it because she knew she would get a few treats during this time. I use honesy nut cherrios BTW for potty training and the clothing thing. They are very low calorie and healthy and my vet reccomended them.

Also another thing is NEVER show that she is scarring you always be the pack leader. I am trying to work with my kids on this because when I am around she will not do anything to show she is the "boss"(which is what the agression is from) but with the kids they show fear and jerk their hands back when she tries to growl. I don't allow this and it's a working progress on both of their parts Good Luck and if there is anything else you need let me know. Roscoe was the HARDEST little guy I have ever potty trained and now he is so great I wonder how I did it so quick LOL!
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With Sukie if we noticed she was having an accident in the same place more then twice we would put a puppy pad in that place. She is still training but we went from 10 pads in places to now only 3 so we are getting there! Is there anyway to put a pad under the couch or block off the living room with a gate? She is SO young right now and honestly yorkies are stubborn and hard to train.

The thing is if you see a mess but she didn't JUST do it within a few seconds clean it up and say NOTHING. The reason why is because she doesn't know what she is doing wrong. Also when you do see her use a pad go crazy reward her with a treat give her kisses make a HUGE deal out of it this will help her want to use the pad more. Another thing is because of her age she might pee out of excitment during playtime. Just say "NO" if you see her doing it and move her to her pad and give her a treat. Anytime she is sniffing the pad I would give her a treat. This is what we do with Sukie and she has been accident free for 3 weeks and is 4.5 months old. The reason she would have an accident within the last two months is if I was cleaning and removed the pads from her "spots" she had learned though that they are in certain spots.

For the clothing and bows. Sukie did the same thing! The trick is to teach them this is a GOOD thing. I would keep cherrios on hand and when I was trying to dress her and she would start to growl and bite I would say "No, Good girl" and give her a cherrio, within a few days she LOVED it because she knew she would get a few treats during this time. I use honesy nut cherrios BTW for potty training and the clothing thing. They are very low calorie and healthy and my vet reccomended them.

Also another thing is NEVER show that she is scarring you always be the pack leader. I am trying to work with my kids on this because when I am around she will not do anything to show she is the "boss"(which is what the agression is from) but with the kids they show fear and jerk their hands back when she tries to growl. I don't allow this and it's a working progress on both of their parts Good Luck and if there is anything else you need let me know. Roscoe was the HARDEST little guy I have ever potty trained and now he is so great I wonder how I did it so quick LOL!
Hi, thanks for your note. My only concern about adding more pads is that it gives her more options from using her "main" bathroom (which is in the puppy apartment). Or, is that actually a good thing? Like you said, you have gone from 10 pads to 3 pads. If I put a pad under the couch, and she begins to use it, how long do I keep it there? How do I ultimately remove it? We will often put her in our wash room with a baby gate on the door. She will sometimes have pee or poop accidents on the floor rather than using the pad in her apartment. Should I add additional pads to the floor of the wash room too? I also just need to keep reminding myself that she is still only 9 weeks old. I guess I need to learn to be more patient!

I will definitely try the Cheerios when changing her clothes. Hopefully, she'll catch on well.

Thanks again.
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It is completely normal for such a young puppy to have to potty so much. The problems you are having is why many yorkie breeders do not allow their puppies to go home until 12 weeks old. The time between 8 and 12 weeks is a very important learning time. They learn bathroom habits, social interactions, bite inhibition, and puppy manners from their mother and siblings during this time.

I just googled the crate you are using and thats quite nifty.

A 9 week old puppy should be under constant supervision when out of its enclosed area not only for potty reasons but for safety reasons. How big is your washroom that the crate is in? If its too big of an area for a puppy her size that could be why she is pottying wherever she wants. Also she is just too young right now to "get it" on her own. Usually she'd be following her mother and watching where mom goes so she knows where its acceptable to potty. So without anyone to constantly show her where to go its going to take her a little while to remember and by "a little while" I mean a couple months. Do not give her free access to anything if you are not on top of her watching her every move. You need to set her up for success, not failure, so she will learn what is acceptable faster. Be patient and consistent. She will eventually learn.

When you do catch her in the act of pottying in an unacceptable area give her a firm but not scary "No" and then bring her to the pad to finish. If you don't catch her in the act but find the evidence afterwards there is nothing you can do. Just clean it up really well and hope you catch her the next time. Reprimanding her after the fact will just confuse her as she won't associate the reprimand for something she did an hour or even a minute ago.

As far as the biting goes it is something all puppies go through. At 9 weeks old the world is still new and they use their mouths to explore everything. They do not know that their pointy little teeth hurt. At this age they should still be playing with their siblings. During their wrestling matches if they get too rough and get bit too hard they will let out a loud sharp yip which alerts the biting puppy that what they did hurts. If the biting puppy continues to do it, then the other puppy will leave the game and not want to play anymore. So this teaches the puppy that biting and being too rough gets him no friends. You need to be that other puppy now. When she bites you or even puts her mouth on you at all, let out a sharp yip like she hurt you, fold your arms over your chest, and ignore her for a few seconds. If she's bouncing at you and still trying to play or bite while your ignoring her then get up and walk away. After a few seconds of her being good, then go back and play with her again. Repeat as necessary.

With clothes and bows, some dogs just never accept them and there is nothing you can do about it. Since she is still a baby she's probably wondering why the heck your putting things on her head and if they taste good. LOL What you can do is put the bow or sweater on her only for a few minutes at a time. Start off with a light t-shirt or harness to get her used to something being on her. When you have the bow or shirt on you need to distract her with treats or a game to take her mind off the "offending" object you've placed on her. She should eventually get used to them, but she may not. Some girls just wanna be scruffy tom boys no matter how hard you try to make them "pretty"
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How big is your washroom that the crate is in? If its too big of an area for a puppy her size that could be why she is pottying wherever she wants.
It's not very big. It's enough room for the washer, dryer, her apartment, and just a small area of free space.

Would you add additional pads to the room, or just stick with the current system with the single pad in the apartment?
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It's not very big. It's enough room for the washer, dryer, her apartment, and just a small area of free space.

Would you add additional pads to the room, or just stick with the current system with the single pad in the apartment?
Stick with the current system, you don't want to confuse her. if your going to use the apartment as her indoor potty area when she's older as well then you don't want to give her other options for places to potty. She might get confused with area rugs and such.
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