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Old 12-13-2011, 04:54 AM   #1
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Over the last week I have run into a problem with my six month old Yorkie Lilly running out. I am super careful to make sure the front gate is always closed, but my kids, and moreover their friends aren't always as careful. The front door is just about five meters from the front gate and with kids coming in and out she can get out within seconds. I am scared to death that she is going to get hit by a car. She listens, and comes when she is in the house, but as soon as she is outside forget it. I have tried working with her outside and am utterly unsuccessful. Any ideas? Someone suggested an electronic fence/collar at the gate, the thought of shocking her breaks my heart, but the fear of losing her to a car breaks my heart a hundred times more...any feedback about training, the use of electric collars....would be greatly appreciated!

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Over the last week I have run into a problem with my six month old Yorkie Lilly running out. I am super careful to make sure the front gate is always closed, but my kids, and moreover their friends aren't always as careful. The front door is just about five meters from the front gate and with kids coming in and out she can get out within seconds. I am scared to death that she is going to get hit by a car. She listens, and comes when she is in the house, but as soon as she is outside forget it. I have tried working with her outside and am utterly unsuccessful. Any ideas? Someone suggested an electronic fence/collar at the gate, the thought of shocking her breaks my heart, but the fear of losing her to a car breaks my heart a hundred times more...any feedback about training, the use of electric collars....would be greatly appreciated!

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It's called a harness and a leash, and training her to wait at the door. Allie will lay down by the door when I say "wait" until her leash is clipped. The door isn't opened until that happens.

Train the kids as well.

Anyone who would shock a dog, especially a small yorkie needs their brains examined!!
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I agree that training would be key, but we all know that it doesn't happen overnight, either. In the meantime (while training), perhaps you could install a large x-pen or gate enclosure in area right outside the front door as a safety containment, should she get out. And yes, the kids should be trained as well, but anyone even remotely familiar with kids know that even the best intentioned ones can be forgetful...let alone trying to "train" all of their friends. Good luck.
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Training is necessary, but not 100% reliable. All it takes is one failure to lead to tragedy.

Sometimes big kids are hard to train too (dads). I thought my yorkies were trained to stay at the door, but one of them popped out and chased the UPS truck down the street when dad opened the door.

We still train, but we rely on baby gates to keep them from doorways, and xpens on the deck.

ETA: shock collars are not 100% reliable and I agree with trainer Victoria Stilwell that they are a health hazard.
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Thanks for your reply mchele. You have kids and they never open the door to your home unless the dog is harnessed and leashed??? Wow!

I was actually looking for some training tips for working with Lilly, not someone telling me to train my kids.

I live in a community where the neighborhood kids are in and out of each others homes as if they are their own, and while everyone loves Lilly and 'knows' that they are supposed to be careful about the gate and the door they are none the less kids and don't always remember. I wish that she would wait by the door and not move until I leash her and tell her okay, but she doesn't and as such I am in need of training assistance.

I am not for zapping the dog by any means but it was presented to me by caring, loving people who have used an invisible fence in their yard with success and thought maybe it would work to save her life. I can't even stand when they pull the hair out of her ears at the groomer...I am not the torturing type. This is why I was looking to hear the opinions of others...

Anybody have any constructive tips or opinions??

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Anyone out there got any constructive tips?
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While I was writing I see that others have offered advice. I appreciate your positive advice and nature of your replies!!

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I was thinking of something along the lines of this:

Economy Black Metal Wire Exercise Pen Enclosure | NationalPetPharmacy

With panels that can be adjusted to fit any shape to enclose the area immediately outside of the front door (if your front door set up would allow something like this).
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Thanks roscoesmommy! I will definitely look into something like that. The kids could jump over it, and it would keep Lilly out of harms way!
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Why wouldn't a baby gate work ? My mom had baby gates in our house since I was about 7.. I knew how to walk over them.. our Pomeranians did not.
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Callie learned sit and stay in puppy classes so when the door would open we would stand between her in front door keeping her a few feet away from the front door and say sit (give her a treat for the sit) and praise her for that and then say stay until the person is out the door (and give her a treat) and we still always tell her how good she is after she does it. Callie now doesn't go out even if you don't tell her to sit and stay but most of the time we do out of habit. If your kids are older there is no reason they cannot shut the gate and you might have to explain to them if you don't shut the gate the dog is going to get out and could get hit by a car and get very hurt or killed. My dad had a problem shutting the gate so he put a bungee cord on it so it would not stay open it would snap closed.
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My dad had a problem shutting the gate so he put a bungee cord on it so it would not stay open it would snap closed.
Now that's a great idea. They also have the spring hinges that could automatically close the gate.
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We've put a short gate at the door leading out to the garage because it's too easy to forget to wait until the garage door is COMPLETELY down before opening the back door and Gracie will try to bolt. And all it takes is one time. We're in training, but I don't want to take a chance. We just step over the gate - don't even bother to open it.
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