6+ years old, had it up to here - need help.

[megansmomma]

Dogs do not do things out of spite ie holding back pee and poop to use it at a later time. A dog's brain does not work in this manner. If you are taking her out to potty and she squats as though she is peeing then she needs to be seen by a vet for further evaluation.

As for her sneaking off~if she is doing this then you are allowing it to occur. There is no reason why you cannot keep her on a leash at your feet while you are studying.

You said that she shows teeth while on the couch with a bone. If this is happening you are allowing this as well. Do not allow her onto the couch if she behaves this way.

If she is biting and showing teeth, you need to keep her under control w/o hitting her and a good way to do this is to once again~keep a leash and harness on her and redirect her.

Finally, LadyJane is a very knowledgeable member of the YT community and insinuating that she is a bitch is totally unacceptable. She has dealt this more abused dogs in rescue than you are years old. Show a little respect!

[Luvdogs2]

Originally Posted by rrobinsonil

OP Quotes:
"Don't you dare insult my integrity or intelligence","You have no business here","find your own thread", ....You don't want advice, you want control over fiancee, dog and YT. Does this hit home...

Superiority Complex- A feeling of superiority or exaggerated self-importance, often accompanied by excessive aggressiveness, arrogance, etc. which are compensation for feelings of inferiority.

Actually, nope....doesn't apply or have any meaning with me. I don't feel a need to dominate at all. I'm pretty passive, all I want is a family and a dog that listens and doesn't act poorly.

I get pretty upset when people try to call me out as a liar because I have built a reputation for honesty and therefor a high degree of integrity. How would you like it if you made a comment and me dismiss it with no basis or understanding of the situation - and pretty much demean your character at the same time?

I don't think you or anyone would like it at all...much like myself, who found it simply insulting.

[ladyjane]

Honestly, I think this matter sounds like more of an issue with you and your fiance. You want to fix what she does not want to fix. If she does not want to fix it and you find it impossible to live with, perhaps you should listen to your parents' advice.

[Luvdogs2]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

Dogs do not do things out of spite ie holding back pee and poop to use it at a later time. A dog's brain does not work in this manner. If you are taking her out to potty and she squats as though she is peeing then she needs to be seen by a vet for further evaluation.

As for her sneaking off~if she is doing this then you are allowing it to occur. There is no reason why you cannot keep her on a leash at your feet while you are studying.

You said that she shows teeth while on the couch with a bone. If this is happening you are allowing this as well. Do not allow her onto the couch if she behaves this way.

If she is biting and showing teeth, you need to keep her under control w/o hitting her and a good way to do this is to once again~keep a leash and harness on her and redirect her.

Finally, LadyJane is a very knowledgeable member of the YT community and insinuating that she is a bitch is totally unacceptable. She has dealt this more abused dogs in rescue than you are years old. Show a little respect!

Respect is earned, not given - and I will do so appropriately and when such respect is reflected. I never called her any names, nor will I. I did reference her behavior as similar to the dog in question here.

I'm not arguing this anymore, I'm not fighting with anyone over this stuff that doesn't pertain to the situation. All I'm saying is the problem at hand has been described and this person (me) is trying to tap the resource of experienced people here...not to be flogged or ridiculed for a mistake made. We aren't perfect, and I'm not claiming to be. To solidify my point, I never justified or said I WASN'T wrong for hitting the dog. I told you all so you all knew the whole truth. Honesty is a policy held in high regard with me...and I forward that onto you all in the interest of finding a solution to this issue.

Now, those posted, hard feelings and insults aside - can we please move forward?

[ladyjane]

OP: I did not call you a liar. I honestly hope you are a liar....because the thought of the way that little pup is living makes me very sad. There is no way that this is a happy pup.

[yorkieusa]

Originally Posted by Luvdogs2

Actually, nope....doesn't apply or have any meaning with me. I don't feel a need to dominate at all. I'm pretty passive, all I want is a family and a dog that listens and doesn't act poorly.I get pretty upset when people try to call me out as a liar because I have built a reputation for honesty and therefor a high degree of integrity. How would you like it if you made a comment and me dismiss it with no basis or understanding of the situation - and pretty much demean your character at the same time?

I don't think you or anyone would like it at all...much like myself, who found it simply insulting.

Well, if that statement isn't an indication of domination, I don't know what is!

These are some dog trainers I found listed in your area. Perhaps they are all still in business. The three of you need to go to training and the trainer needs to come to your home to see this firsthand.


Dog Training Schools in Illinois
By Krista Sheehan , eHow Contributor .updated: October 1, 2009

I want to do this! What's This? ...Training a dog in obedience and manners is a guaranteed way to ensure a closer connection between animal and owner. Regardless of the dog's breed or age, he will benefit from the exercises and skills learned at a dog training school. Whether you are trying to teach your dog obedience, agility, manners or tricks, a professional dog training school will help you find the training method that works best with your dog. These dog training schools in Illinois focus on positive reinforcement to ensure a happy, well-trained canine.
Big Sky Dog Training
Big Sky Dog Training is run by professional dog trainer, Montana C. Hayes, who has been training dogs for more than 20 years. A variety of dog training classes are available for dogs of all ages. The school focuses on obedience and foundation training, based on rewards and play. Both private in-home classes and group classes are available.


Big Sky Dog Training
9011 Kildare Ave.
Skokie, IL 60076
(847) 997-4707
Lucky Dog Academy
Serving the west and southwest suburbs of Chicago, Lucky Dog Academy offers multiple levels of dog training for dogs of all ages. Puppy training classes teach the basics to a young dog, while obedience classes are for dogs over six months. Three levels of agility classes are offered, along with a course on dog tricks. There are also private in-home classes.

Lucky Dog Academy
1488 Royce Road
Naperville, IL 60565
(815) 302-8143
Dog Training Plus!
The lessons at Dog Training Plus! are aimed at teaching basic and advanced obedience skills to your dog or puppy, along with basic manners for the home and community. All classes are designed with both the dog and the family in mind. The family is encouraged to train with the dog. Additional classes are available, including agility training, dog tricks, and learning the game of flyball.

Dog Training Plus!
6614 N. Camelot Road
Peoria, IL 61615
(309) 693-7585
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[Luvdogs2]

Originally Posted by yorkieusa

Well, if that statement isn't an indication of domination, I don't know what is!

As opposed to....a dog that doesn't listen and acts poorly? I don't know of any owner that wants life to be the opposite of enhanced by the companionship of a dog or other type of pet.

Any dog, when trained to do things the owner has trained it to do is a matter of domestication - which is a form of dominance by the human species.

I'm no arguing with you here, but I don't think my statement was out of line there. As far as the dog training schools and professionals for hire. I have started looking into them, I just haven't gotten to the point yet as I would very much like to learn how the best way to do the training works. I am pretty sure that the amount of yorkies out there "Home Schooled" versus hiring somebody greatly outweigh one another - and I'd like to know best for future dogs too.

I'm not dismissing the option, but I'd be very much interested in trying ideas for a few months and bonding with Bdog more and if the situation warrants a professional, then I'll at least have had some time to buddy up to Bdog and hopefully training may take a little easier.

Optimally, I'd like to see the situation resolve without spending the money on a trainer - but I'm prepared to if needed.

I hope that makes sense.

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by Luvdogs2

Respect is earned, not given - and I will do so appropriately and when such respect is reflected. I never called her any names, nor will I. I did reference her behavior as similar to the dog in question here.

I'm not arguing this anymore, I'm not fighting with anyone over this stuff that doesn't pertain to the situation. All I'm saying is the problem at hand has been described and this person (me) is trying to tap the resource of experienced people here...not to be flogged or ridiculed for a mistake made. We aren't perfect, and I'm not claiming to be. To solidify my point, I never justified or said I WASN'T wrong for hitting the dog. I told you all so you all knew the whole truth. Honesty is a policy held in high regard with me...and I forward that onto you all in the interest of finding a solution to this issue.

Now, those posted, hard feelings and insults aside - can we please move forward?

I really think that you need to revisit my post to see the advice that was given to you. All excellent, given to my by my trainer and worked well.

What does your entire statement above have to do with the advice that I gave to you to address your issues properly?

[chestermama]

Hitting a dog will get you no where, the dog is not going to trust you and the dog probably picks up on issues between you and your girl friend, I have gotten frustrated with my dog but I would never hit him and if somebody did it would not be pretty, I would have them face first in the ground

[Luvdogs2]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

I really think that you need to revisit my post to see the advice that was given to you. All excellent, given to my by my trainer and worked well.

What does your entire statement above have to do with the advice that I gave to you to address your issues properly?

I was only addressing the last part of the post about showing respect. I will start using the leash to cast an implement of control to keep the sneaking off part at bay and hopefully it will be a useful tool. I have heard an opposite side to that though and that they can fear it just like fearing the crate. I don't want her thinking she's in trouble...that's not something I want to project on her.

Your comments were most helpful and I apologize for not addressing them.

[gemy]

Originally Posted by Luvdogs2

As opposed to....a dog that doesn't listen and acts poorly? I don't know of any owner that wants life to be the opposite of enhanced by the companionship of a dog or other type of pet.

Any dog, when trained to do things the owner has trained it to do is a matter of domestication - which is a form of dominance by the human species.

I'm no arguing with you here, but I don't think my statement was out of line there. As far as the dog training schools and professionals for hire. I have started looking into them, I just haven't gotten to the point yet as I would very much like to learn how the best way to do the training works. I am pretty sure that the amount of yorkies out there "Home Schooled" versus hiring somebody greatly outweigh one another - and I'd like to know best for future dogs too.

I'm not dismissing the option, but I'd be very much interested in trying ideas for a few months and bonding with Bdog more and if the situation warrants a professional, then I'll at least have had some time to buddy up to Bdog and hopefully training may take a little easier.

Optimally, I'd like to see the situation resolve without spending the money on a trainer - but I'm prepared to if needed.

I hope that makes sense.

Bonding with a dog any dog, does mean spending quality time with them. oh yes a "yawn " catch phrase quality time.

Take her for walks. 15 minutes even at a time every day, preferably at the same time. Hey you are studing and should take a break every two hours or so, take that opportunity to walk your dog.

Play games with her reward her for good behaviour. Feed her on a regular schedule that suits your time frame.

My dogs get fed around 6 am wkdays and 9am wkends, and nary a problem.

But that is the schedule we have all developed over years.

They also get walked every day, they swim twice a wk, oh btw we both work full time, but we do make the time to be with our pups.

[yorkieusa]

This lil girl is 9 lbs. Does she get taken for walks frequently?

I walk mine a little over two miles weekdays. I walk her four miles a day on weekends.

[Donnainohio63]

All I can say is I feel sorry for the dog. She should not have to spend so much time in the crate. How do you expect her to be house broken if you will not even let her out of her crate? I also think there is a jelousy issue here. Last but not least.....How dare you hit that small baby. What were you thinking? You will not teach anything to any animal by hitting it. I think you need to contact a rescue and give the dog to someone who will take the time that is needed to train the baby properly. I feel so sorry for this little furbaby and I pray that she finds a good home somewhere else.

[Luvdogs2]

Originally Posted by gemy

Bonding with a dog any dog, does mean spending quality time with them. oh yes a "yawn " catch phrase quality time.

Take her for walks. 15 minutes even at a time every day, preferably at the same time. Hey you are studing and should take a break every two hours or so, take that opportunity to walk your dog.

Play games with her reward her for good behaviour. Feed her on a regular schedule that suits your time frame.

My dogs get fed around 6 am wkdays and 9am wkends, and nary a problem.

But that is the schedule we have all developed over years.

They also get walked every day, they swim twice a wk, oh btw we both work full time, but we do make the time to be with our pups.

I wasn't trying to blanket the term or say something everyone wanted to hear, so I apologize if that sounded generic.

I'll be having a sit down with the fiance again and have her read through this thread. Hopefully she will get as much out of it as I have and I hope this can illicit a little bit of change so things can get better for everyone.

She gets her quality time - hence the statements of non neglect. I don't abuse her, I did lash out when blood was drawn but that's been over and done with as said before.

I'm thinking adjusting the feedings to allow for evacuation before long periods in the crate is a first priority. Allowing for more time between feedings and outside time is right there too. Also, fiance needs a discussion to solidify these ideas and make sure she follows the routine.

Thank you all for the help, it's very much appreciated.

[kjc]

Originally Posted by Luvdogs2

Also, the last bit was over 6 months ago - for what that is worth. The growling is still persistent though. Another thing is Bdog will get a chew treat and come sit right next to you and either chew it or sit on it. If you move, even to get up - it's bare teeth and growling/barking. Any idea on discouraging this behavior? It sucks trying to have a conversation, watch a movie or simply sit on the couch and have some close time with the future wife.

Okay... a few things bother me.... one is that she came from a pet shop. This means that more than likely she was removed from her Mom and the litter way too early. Also that she more than likely came from a puppy mill, so her parents are not of the best disposition/lineage. She may have benefited from additional time with her Mom and littermates, not that this is an excuse for her behavior, but a possible reason for it.

Chew toys are a choking hazzard, I agree to remove them from the house. Does she still growl if she doesn't have the chew treat and is sitting next to you when you decide to move? If yes... try to distract her first... find a food treat like Cheerios that you could toss on the floor to get her to move first, before you attempt to get up. The idea behind this is to prevent or avoid the agressive behavior, and eventually she will stop doing it in that situation. Also, she'll associate you with 'good' things....

Is there anyway to lose the crate, but still confine her in one room that is easy to keep clean? Like the kitchen maybe? I know crates are difficult to clean, so if she acts okay in the one room (with peepads) maybe it would be less stressful. Like when you come home first, take her out to potty, then a little meet and greet playtime, and some Cheerios when you confine her in the kitchen, so you can study. (And just a note: Yorkies do not see it as fair if they are confined when there is someone home.)

And another question: Does she use the same spot or spots when she is sneaking a poop? If yes, I'd place peepads in those spots until she can get her bowels under control.

Also, just a thought, my older dog sometimes goes out to potty then comes right back in the house, but I learned to watch him bc sometimes he will potty again inside. I think he gets distracted and forgets to go when he's out the first time, so if I see him searching for a spot, I just let him back out again. It used to upset me but now he knows it's okay if he needs to go out again right away. Also, bc he's older, sometimes I add cut string beans to his food... makes the poop move easier through their system, so he's more likely to poop outside the first time. JMHO: Hard poops are okay... but I adjust their diet to acheive a bit softer movement, as he appears to strain less if it's softer.

Still waiting to hear the kind of food she's eating....