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I♥PeekTinkySaph&Finny Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Baltimore, Maryland
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My mindset is that I love my dogs, I just don't love everything they do. (Works well with people and children too) I came to that realization with my 'new' Peek a Boo on my lap one evening. We had a really bad day, he did everything wrong, and I wasn't able to lavish praise on him the whole day. He may have been yelled at a few times. I was so frustrated with him, I was questioning whether or not I should keep him or return him. Then, as I sat there with him on my lap, I apologized and told him I had promised to love him, and I would. So every night from that day on, we had our nighttime routine, where I would tell him I loved him and that he was a very good boy... even if I had to lie to myself about it, and I kissed him on the side of his face. He never kissed back, and I thought that was odd, and I began to think he just wasn't a 'kissing dog'. But that was okay with me. Some things you just can't change. It was sad though, because when I said the words 'Good Boy', his reaction told me that he had never heard these words before, or had forgotten what they meant. Telling him he was a 'Good Boy' also allowed him to feel good about himself, and really helped him with his confidence. Soon, the bad days started disappearing, and the good days were vastly outnumbering the bad. I truly believe this is the one, most important thing I did with him, the one thing that made the biggest difference in turning his behavior around. Eight months later, during our routine (I kept it up), I kissed his cheek, and he turned his head toward mine, and licked my cheek. I cried tears of joy and sadness, sadness because something that happened to him caused him to withhold his love for all that time. And we still do the routine to this day, and he gets his kiss and I get mine! I've read many mention the puppymill concern... I believe I read that DF got Bdog as a puppy from a pet store. The concern is that puppymills dogs are kept in kennels all their lives, and it is not recommended to keep an older puppymill dog in a kennel once it is in it's forever home. As Bdog was a puppy, she may not have been as traumatized by a kennel as an older breeder would have been, so I think it will not cause her any additional trauma to keep her in a kennel for short periods of time, as needed.
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They were both part of a puppy mill seizure the beginning of September. Reno was literally seized from the puppy mill by animal control, taken in by LDR with the others that were seized, and taken to the vet, then brought to me for fostering. We figure he is 8-9 years old, and he had spent all his life in a kennel (probably sharing a cage with several other small dogs). For the first few days we had to keep him penned up in the living room until we could evaluate how Beamer and Lil Bit would get on with him, and to make sure he was safe when our grandchildren came over. To get him out of the pen we had to literally reach in, pick him up and carry him out. When we got him out of the pen permanently he kept going back in - he thought that was where he was supposed to be. We had to close the gate on the pen so he couldn't go back in there. It didn't take him long to realize that he was "free" and could go wherever he wanted in the house. He found the doggie door, went into the yard and did several laps around the yard, he looked so happy and free. He has not been penned since. (he did have to go in a carrier when LDR took him back while we went on our vacation - and he hated that, even though it was only for the ride back to Orlando to another volunteer's home) I think it would be traumatic for him to ever be kenneled again. Happily he is now in his forever home and will live "free" for the rest of his life. (Clover has also been adopted)
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Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Peoria, IL, USA
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| ![]() Eukanuba (spelling probably off) is the brand she gets. I can't believe a name unique like that slipped my mind, but that's the brand. Is this not suggested? She seems to like it, but as a veterinarian told me once, chicken feathers are made up of mostly protein, but you can't live off of them. I would like to make sure she is getting fed with good food. She doesn't get table scraps, but an occasional piece of chicken or meat when she is behaving and in calm behavior. Since I'm not at the apartment and back at my shop, my fiance is doing the work with the training for the weekend. She says she is having a hard time getting her do do the things we discussed (sitting before going through a door and speaking to get outside). She had to do the ring around the table and room because she didn't want to go in the crate while my fiance left for work. I believe my fiance was saying that since I have left, her behavior has noticeably went a little worse. I didn't mention that I too have been just talking to her (Bdog) if it's just to say how a school problem is kind of difficult or to tell her that she's loved. I ask her questions about engineering and other things, only to get a cocked head look and a quick shift of the feet. We've been petting her more and I've been asking her about specific toys to bring me. She has a frog she loves and I'll ask where her frog is, when she brings me a ball, I say "I said frog, where is the frog? Put the ball down and find the frog" and she'll search for it. We keep repeating until she brings the frog. We play with that for a few minutes and I'll ask her for the rope. (this was all Monday when I was home and Tuesday after I got done packing and was waiting for my fiance to get home.) Now, when she goes in the crate or kennel, should we put a blanket over it or has anyone had any more luck with leaving a light on for them? It's pretty much dark other than the street lights flooding the apartment through the windows. Would a little light help calm the anxiety or would that enhance it thinking we were there but not letting her out? How about a radio or something to break up the silence? Has that helped anyone? |
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Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Peoria, IL, USA
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I apologize. The crate - we don't have much for living space that will be easy to clean. After asking the fiance about pee pads, she shreds them. I haven't looked into the ex pen just yet, I will do so. Do you or anyone have a suggestion on averting the shredding behavior on the pee pads? I have used this trick on most of the dogs I have worked and trained. As a pup and through training, when being naughty, flip them over on their back, but the hand on the throat (not squeezing tight, but gentle pressure with fingertips to mimic teeth), putting your face next to your hand and growling...like and alpha does. They usually just freeze until you let them up a few seconds later. Does anyone use this or have any experience with it? I have not done this with Bdog yet because she has bitten before. I haven't been too goofy with her, but when we train, I'm sitting on the floor as long as I can (previous accident, back can't take a lot of floor time). When we train, I don't stand over her, I'm on my knees. We establish eye contact too. Oh, another question - how often do you bathe the Yorkies? Do they have a naturally oilier coat or a pretty dry one? I think she needs more frequent baths though she gets on every time she messes in the crate. It seems like she gets oilier faster than most other dogs I know. Not to bother, but I could really use the info on how much to feed her. I would love to hear everyone's weight and amounts you feed to get a good idea on how much to give her. | |
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I♥PeekTinkySaph&Finny Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Baltimore, Maryland
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| ![]() You could do better than Eukanuba. There are quite a few threads on YT about foods. Better brands can be found at Petco, PetsMart, and online. Look at some of the stickies at the beginning of each forum, and in the YT Library. Bdog is just reverting to the way it has been with DF all along... may take some persistance on DF's part to get Bdog to listen to her. Tell her not to give up, just do the best she can. As Bdog becomes more responsive to training, she will eventually listen better. Does DF give Bdog a treat (a few Cheerios) for going in the kennel? Need more info on her behavior when she is crated. Does she carry on, or will she settle down? You could try what you mentioned when you are there to see how she reacts. There is a CD out of calming music for dogs, so music may help her. Covering the cage does help some... would be worth a try. A night light may help, also.
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Oh, we hang our coats up out of reach. I was just illustrating her behavior and what she likes to tear up. I would have though shoes and such would be on the menu, but she's good with them. I'm glad, I'd be lost without my Birks... I'll make sure to look into better food when she's doing a bit better in the working and after we make some headwind. I have suggested to my fiance to start coming home for her breaks at work and she says it's impossible even though she's only about 15 minutes away. She's in health care and never knows when her breaks will be and for how long. I do understand though, she's pretty busy at work. Things will be a bit better too when I'm not in school and working a day shift and not have to worry about study groups and work around my schooling. I would home that my fiance would be able to find a transfer to first shift as well to make sure we aren't just meeting in bed and not see each other. I agree on keeping the night time crating going. Judging by her actions, I'd hate to get the teeth again for shifting in bed - not to mention the sneak attack... I can't get my fiance to acknowledge though that the dog doesn't need a heaping bowl of food at every sitting. I tried weighing out what she is supposed to eat and then weighing out the same portion for a person by a linear interpolation...1 ounce of food as suggested for a dog of 9 or 10 pounds and 16 ounces for a person of 160 pounds...that's a lot of kibble I would have to eat in comparison! She didn't see what I was doing there, maybe some of you do? I then weighed out the amount of food she wants to give her in one sitting, roughly a little over 2 ounces so that would make more than 32 ounces of kibble for a person to eat in one sitting...yeah, that's a LOT of kibble. You have to figure we eat between 8 to 12 ounces of a meat and some side dishes on a full on dinner out an about...more or less pending on who you are...but still, even with a visual tool like measuring out the food she still thinks that she will starve to death. Any way to help get her on the same page as this? Do you think a trainer would back me up on the feeding issue? Maybe I'm wrong? I have read that over feeding can illicit digestive problems and she could go more in shorter periods of time - which makes perfect sense to me. Still reading and learning, keep the suggestions coming if you have them. | |
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![]() Seriously, I'd get the xpen that Wyliesmom pointed out to you, I have one in addition to the larger one that we use in the bedroom. This smaller one should work in your apartment. I'd throw out the crate and just use this xpen. It would work perfect for one small Yorkie. You can fold one washable pee pad in half and it will fit on one side (RDB911) sells them in bulk at a great price, and she can't shred them. Hook a water bottle on the other side with a bed and some toys. Make that her special place and it'll be great for bed and when you have to leave her for any length of time. You can feed her in there. Give her treats in there. Make it a place she wants to go.
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| ![]() Eukanuba isn't that great of a brand. She needs a good holistic brand. Here are a few brands you can you look into... Life's Abundance Blue Buffalo Innova Honest Kitchen Wellness You can do a search on here and see the different kinds of quality food everyone feeds. Just remember you need a food with no fillers, artificial flavors/colors, no corn and one that isn't too high in protein. Also you may want to avoid chicken as well, some yorkies are prone to have an allergy towards chicken and corn. As for the shredding of the pee pads, either buy washable ones or a pad holder that keeps the pad in place so she can't get to it so easily to shred it. Never try the alpha roll on her, it will do far more damage to her. It should only be used on highly aggressive large breeds and even then I am not a fan of it and would never do it. In the wild or in dog terms, when another dog flips another on their back (the alpha roll) it is usually done to kill them. Doing this can cause more aggression (because they now fear you and try to defend themselves) or it will cause more submission such as submissive urinating.
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I use those same treats when working at the door for the speak. I break them in half and she gets the first one on the way out to reinforce the speak at the door. When she speaks, I open the door first and give her the treat on the way outside, hoping the speak, then through the door, then getting the treat rather than speak, get the treat and then open the door. Once she starts getting the speak down, I'm going to walk her to the next door and have her sit to go through...then the treat. I'm hoping to get her used to the idea that getting outside in the pattern will reinforce the idea of barking at the door when she wants to go outside. I talked to her tonight when she texted me about having issues with getting her to work with the headway I was having. I told her the same thing, don't give up, keep working on it and don't get discouraged. We'll work on it together so that she will understand that one of us isn't soft. She seems to behave when she's in the crate. I know that she will start barking a lot when we leave .I've forgotten books and my lunch box and had to come back in and you can hear her in the hallway carrying on. When she's kenneled and such, she behaves other than when I walk in to go to bed after my fiance has went to sleep. I know now why she's growling and showing teeth - 2 and 2 makes 4 and if she's protective of my fiance in bed, she's trying to protect her through the kennel. It's the only reason I can think of. | |
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