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Old 11-03-2010, 05:35 AM   #16
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If you are that concerned about the dog being house trained, then why didn't you look for a slightly older dog that was already trained?

I can't fathom having so little emotional attachment to a dog that I've had for a while that I could just give it away. I've had many dogs that had flaws that were not aspects I would have ideally "wanted," but I couldn't fathom just getting rid of them and replacing them like they were disposable because they didn't live up to my expectations. I dealt with it because they are DOGS--living creatures that have to adjust to you and you to them. Not something you can custom design to fit your lifestyle.
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First of all, I never said I only had my first yorkie for 6 months, what I said was I got her at 6 months old, and she was over a year old when I finally gave up potty training her. She was almost a year and a half, which means I tried for almost a year. I hated giving her up, but I hated her peeing and pooping all over my house even more. I KNEW the signs...I mean I am not completely clueless....regardless of what some of you may think. I took her right outside when she started showing those "signs"...she would go a little, and then come right in the house and finish! So I figured, ok she doesn't like going outside..so I set her up a "potty place" in my bathroom with pee pads, etc....so when I saw the "signs" i would put her in the bathroom....I would keep her in there for a long while and she would either do what she did outside, or just didn't go period. I am telling you, it was a nightmare.

I keep in close contact with the person I gave her to, and she has 3 other yorkies, she trained them and she knows how to train them! I gave her away because I thought that maybe she would have better luck.....and NOPE she is still not trained...and the dog is almost 2 years old now! She does the exact same thing with them....so again I say it is not always the owner! In this case I am completely convinced that it is the dog.

But whatever..I thought I would join and ask for advise, so it didn't happen again...I am sorry that I did...My feelings don't hurt very easily...trust me when I say that...I am just not into the drama..I will do this myself....
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I don't know if you'll be coming back but if you do, did you use an enzyme cleaner when cleaning up after all the dogs?

I ask because I've had success with that kind of cleaner when teaching my over a year old dog to not mark in the house, even if my roomie's dog did. I used Nature's Miracld, and it really helps because it's suppose to break down and eliminate all the potty smells that the dogs can smell even if we can't. I soak up with a paper towel as much pee as I can. Then I spray an "oopsie" area with a generous amount of Nature's Miracle, and I even go outside the "oopsie" area, just to make sure I got it all. I super saturate it and let it sit for 5 mins. Then I soak up the remainder with more paper towels. That works on my carpeted floors and the laminate in the bathroom and kitchen.
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Old 11-03-2010, 04:33 PM   #19
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You have to realize that you are a new member, coming onto a forum of dog/Yorkie lovers, and we're pretty passionate about our dogs. It sounds REALLY bad to introduce yourself stating that you got rid of your first Yorkie because she couldn't house train and now you have another one that is only 5 weeks old. To us, we could NEVER just give our Yorkie up for something so simple. Just to give you another point of view. I know it can be difficult joining a forum as a newbie and getting harsh responses. I assure you this is a really nice community but as a public forum, people can for the most part say what they want to say. And you've gotten really good advice.

Otherwise, I agree with everyone else's advice. Potty training a Yorkie is NO simple task and it requires GREAT supervision. I was very lucky in that I got Jackson when I had off 3 weeks. I spent those 3 weeks on a VERY strict schedule. We would wake up at 7am, go outside... if he never went, he would go back in his crate for another 10 minutes. I'd try again, etc. He NEVER got to just roam free (unless my eye was on him 24/7) until he had already pottyed outdoors. I didn't give him a chance to begin sniffing the carpet, and watching for signals... I would see him drink water, and know he was going to have to go minutes after, so would take him outside in advance. Set them up for success; not failure. I'm not going to lie, Jackson will still have the occasional poop accident and it's 100 percent of the time MY fault. He poops in the living room maybe once every two months or something and it's generally when it's raining, or he barked at the door but I didn't believe he had to go He's 99.9 percent potty trained since 6 months old. In general, Yorkies as a breed can be difficult.

May I ask, with your first Yorkie, did you crate-train? Put her in a pen, etc? Why was she given the CHANCE to go potty on the carpet or indoors? I'm just wondering the method you used. It sounds to me she was possibly given a bit too much freedom.
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Old 11-03-2010, 04:39 PM   #20
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Remember that they can't do a lot of things for themselves and that they depend on you to make their life a quality life!
A PET'S TEN COMMANDMENTS:

1. My life is likely to last 10-15 years. Any separation from you is likely to be painful.

2. Give me time to understand what you want of me.

3. Place your trust in me. It is crucial for my well-being.

4. Don't be angry with me for long and don't lock me up as punishment. You have your work, your friends, your entertainment, but I have only you.

5. Talk to me. Even if I don't understand your words, I do understand your voice when speaking to me.

6. Be aware that however you treat me, I will never forget it.

7. Before you hit me, before you strike me, remember that I could hurt you, and yet, I choose not to bite you.

8. Before you scold me for being lazy or uncooperative, ask yourself if something might be bothering me. Perhaps I'm not getting the right food, I have been in the sun too long, or my heart might be getting old or weak.

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Remember that they can't do a lot of things for themselves and that they depend on you to make their life a quality life!
A PET'S TEN COMMANDMENTS:

1. My life is likely to last 10-15 years. Any separation from you is likely to be painful.

2. Give me time to understand what you want of me.

3. Place your trust in me. It is crucial for my well-being.

4. Don't be angry with me for long and don't lock me up as punishment. You have your work, your friends, your entertainment, but I have only you.

5. Talk to me. Even if I don't understand your words, I do understand your voice when speaking to me.

6. Be aware that however you treat me, I will never forget it.

7. Before you hit me, before you strike me, remember that I could hurt you, and yet, I choose not to bite you.

8. Before you scold me for being lazy or uncooperative, ask yourself if something might be bothering me. Perhaps I'm not getting the right food, I have been in the sun too long, or my heart might be getting old or weak.

9. Please take care of me when I grow old. You too, will grow old.

10. On the ultimate difficult journey, go with me please.
Never say you can't bear to watch. Don't make me face this alone. Everything is easier for me if you are there, because I love you so.

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amen to that Mary! and on top of that. no matter what on this planet happens there is NO WAY that i will ever ever ever give up on my dogs. i promised that to Sadie when i bought her from the terrible breeder i bought her from and i promised that to Bentley when i rescued him from his owner's who gave up on him. as a person responsible for each pet's life that you take into your hands it is your responsability to either help them learn or deal with it if they don't you wouldn't kick out your child or husband for being incontient would you??

and something that was overlooked in all of these discussions is the fact that there is always a possability that diabetes or a thyriod problem or other tract infections that dogs can get who have urination problems. if ur dog had diabetes and u gave it to someone that doesn't have any idea it's more than just a potty training issue then that pup is suffering from sickness and can't help that it has to pee so often and can't hold it either...there could be many things wrong with it. who knows. but giving up isn't in my nature and esp. not on an innocent life and of all things if i had to let one go like that i sure as hell wouldn't get another as a puppy to try all over again. yorkies are notoriously the hardest breed to house train. you love them so much but apparentely in all your research you did not realize that they don't come easy and ur dog started late in life too so he had a long ways to catch up to learning something later in life. if it were a male it could have had marking issues. females mark sometimes too so if she were having those problems you might have had more trouble training her...see what i mean you say u tried everything, but did u really and giving up on her for being an innocent dog is terrible shame on you.
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First of all, I never said I only had my first yorkie for 6 months, what I said was I got her at 6 months old, and she was over a year old when I finally gave up potty training her. She was almost a year and a half, which means I tried for almost a year. I hated giving her up, but I hated her peeing and pooping all over my house even more. I KNEW the signs...I mean I am not completely clueless....regardless of what some of you may think. I took her right outside when she started showing those "signs"...she would go a little, and then come right in the house and finish! So I figured, ok she doesn't like going outside..so I set her up a "potty place" in my bathroom with pee pads, etc....so when I saw the "signs" i would put her in the bathroom....I would keep her in there for a long while and she would either do what she did outside, or just didn't go period. I am telling you, it was a nightmare.

I keep in close contact with the person I gave her to, and she has 3 other yorkies, she trained them and she knows how to train them! I gave her away because I thought that maybe she would have better luck.....and NOPE she is still not trained...and the dog is almost 2 years old now! She does the exact same thing with them....so again I say it is not always the owner! In this case I am completely convinced that it is the dog.

But whatever..I thought I would join and ask for advise, so it didn't happen again...I am sorry that I did...My feelings don't hurt very easily...trust me when I say that...I am just not into the drama..I will do this myself....
Just because potty training a certain way worked for three yorkies doesn't mean its going to work for the forth yorkie.
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Remember that they can't do a lot of things for themselves and that they depend on you to make their life a quality life!
A PET'S TEN COMMANDMENTS:

1. My life is likely to last 10-15 years. Any separation from you is likely to be painful.

2. Give me time to understand what you want of me.

3. Place your trust in me. It is crucial for my well-being.

4. Don't be angry with me for long and don't lock me up as punishment. You have your work, your friends, your entertainment, but I have only you.

5. Talk to me. Even if I don't understand your words, I do understand your voice when speaking to me.

6. Be aware that however you treat me, I will never forget it.

7. Before you hit me, before you strike me, remember that I could hurt you, and yet, I choose not to bite you.

8. Before you scold me for being lazy or uncooperative, ask yourself if something might be bothering me. Perhaps I'm not getting the right food, I have been in the sun too long, or my heart might be getting old or weak.

9. Please take care of me when I grow old. You too, will grow old.

10. On the ultimate difficult journey, go with me please.
Never say you can't bear to watch. Don't make me face this alone. Everything is easier for me if you are there, because I love you so.

~Take a moment today to thank GOD for your pets. Enjoy and take good care of them. Life would be a much duller, less joyful experience without God's critters.

~Now please pass this on to other pet owners. We do not have to wait for Heaven, to be surrounded by hope, love, and joyfulness.
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I am confused......
12/30/09 you said Delilah was 4 months old, so she must have been born....end of August 09/beginning of Sep 09. You said you had gotten her 1 month before (end of Nov 09).
11/1/10 you said she is over a year old, you got her when she was 6 months old and had 6 months of trying to housetrain.

11/2/10 you said you got her at 6 months old, she was over a year old when you gave up, is almost a year and a half old now and you gave it one year of trying to housetrain. Then you said the dog is almost 2 years old now. You say you tried until she was almost a year and a half old and the new owners had her til she is almost 2 years old. So did they try for about 6 months too?

If the dog was born end of August 09/beginning of Sept 09, as your first post intimates, then the dog is just barely over a year old now -- like 14 months old now! Not almost 2 years old. If you had the dog since the end of November 09 as your first post here intimates, then I cannot see how you have given it a year of trying to housetrain AND the new owners have also given what looks like to be 6 months of trying to housetrain. Just does not add up at all.

If the dog was 3 months old when you got her, and she is 14 months old now, (that leaves 11 months) and the new owners have had her for some time (somewhere around 6 months?)......how long do you think you gave it a try? Probably more near the 6 months mark than a year?

Not trying to nitpick but you seemed to lengthen the time you "tried to housetrain" with each post. Six months is just not that long when you are talking a tiny Yorkie pup. They can be a challenge to housetrain. Most are!

I think many are more concerned by some of the wording we pick up on from your posts. These two quotes are examples from your words that concern me a great deal: " Then there was that Yorkie that I could not train" "YES I absolutly got rid of the 1st Yorkie because I could not house train her. "

You have stopped even referring to her by name as if she no longer matters. Now she is just "that yorkie" that you "got rid of." Getting rid sounds like something you do with yesterday's garbage. With beloved yorkies, you rehome or find a new forever home where they can be happy. It may seem like just wording difference to you, but it really shows a lot about attitude towards the puppy.

Since you now have another yorkie (this time much too young to be separated from her mother and siblings) I hope you will bond with her and see how precious she is. Care for her and realize that she will want to please you when she understands what you want. That may take some time. Be prepared for a huge challenge as she is so young. At 7 weeks old, she should still be with her momma dog for another 5 weeks yet. Do not expect too much from her too quickly. I would definately follow the advice about puppy pads given already. But realize that she may not really understand this for several months yet. Be patient!
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I am confused......
12/30/09 you said Delilah was 4 months old, so she must have been born....end of August 09/beginning of Sep 09. You said you had gotten her 1 month before (end of Nov 09).
11/1/10 you said she is over a year old, you got her when she was 6 months old and had 6 months of trying to housetrain.

11/2/10 you said you got her at 6 months old, she was over a year old when you gave up, is almost a year and a half old now and you gave it one year of trying to housetrain. Then you said the dog is almost 2 years old now. You say you tried until she was almost a year and a half old and the new owners had her til she is almost 2 years old. So did they try for about 6 months too?

If the dog was born end of August 09/beginning of Sept 09, as your first post intimates, then the dog is just barely over a year old now -- like 14 months old now! Not almost 2 years old. If you had the dog since the end of November 09 as your first post here intimates, then I cannot see how you have given it a year of trying to housetrain AND the new owners have also given what looks like to be 6 months of trying to housetrain. Just does not add up at all.

If the dog was 3 months old when you got her, and she is 14 months old now, (that leaves 11 months) and the new owners have had her for some time (somewhere around 6 months?)......how long do you think you gave it a try? Probably more near the 6 months mark than a year?

Not trying to nitpick but you seemed to lengthen the time you "tried to housetrain" with each post. Six months is just not that long when you are talking a tiny Yorkie pup. They can be a challenge to housetrain. Most are!

I think many are more concerned by some of the wording we pick up on from your posts. These two quotes are examples from your words that concern me a great deal: " Then there was that Yorkie that I could not train" "YES I absolutly got rid of the 1st Yorkie because I could not house train her. "

You have stopped even referring to her by name as if she no longer matters. Now she is just "that yorkie" that you "got rid of." Getting rid sounds like something you do with yesterday's garbage. With beloved yorkies, you rehome or find a new forever home where they can be happy. It may seem like just wording difference to you, but it really shows a lot about attitude towards the puppy.

Since you now have another yorkie (this time much too young to be separated from her mother and siblings) I hope you will bond with her and see how precious she is. Care for her and realize that she will want to please you when she understands what you want. That may take some time. Be prepared for a huge challenge as she is so young. At 7 weeks old, she should still be with her momma dog for another 5 weeks yet. Do not expect too much from her too quickly. I would definately follow the advice about puppy pads given already. But realize that she may not really understand this for several months yet. Be patient!
that's right I'm confused too. she never did answer many of my questions. I hope there was never any yorkies to begin with, but we all know, stranger things have happend.
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We fostered Bentley (in my album of fosters) that was surrendered to the rescue because he "couldn't" be potty trained.

After a couple of days he was using pee pads fine, but we were still having trouble getting him to potty at all outside, actually he wouldn't even get on the grass.

I spoke with the surrendering owner and she stated that she didn't know if he had ever been on grass before. Just in her house and on the driveway, he was TWO YEARS OLD!

WHAT?!?!? Never on grass?!?!?!?!?!

We finally started taking him out to the back of the yard (my wife on the patio) and calling him to her. I would stay with him and reassure him and then he would bolt to her.

After a few days, we started throwing his toy into the yard he and he would go after it on his own. Yay Bent-burger (my nickname for him.)

After about a week and a half...you would never know that the little guy was "scared" of grass.

His forever home takes him on two good walks a day of 30-45 minutes. She said that she has to basically drag him in because he loves being outdoors so much IN THE GRASS!

The biggest issues always seem to be impatience on the owner's part. I mean, does a child go potty the minute you sit them on the toddie? No. Most of scared of it until you acclamate them to it.

Patience, Persistance, and Praise. The three P's that folks need to remember when training a dog (especially a Yorkie) to do anything.

Hopefully some of what we did to help Bentley will help you! 7 weeks is still WAY young, but while IN the house, the xpen with a pee pad should do the trick, just make sure you don't "pee pad" the whole area! Keep it separate from the bed and water!
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