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Old 05-28-2010, 05:32 PM   #76
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Or one of us runs a front on the board and deflects while the rest of us work out of sight and get it done....????
Just thinking but I still think they need to just GROW UP AND THINK OF THE DOG!

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Well I can be one right ugly witch when needed and I will back up and fight hard but I can also when all is said and done laugh at myself and try to lighten it all up.
WE can not fix everyone or everything and sometimes we have to admit defeat but we can choice to cry and I have and we can try and learn which I just did and thanks and then I laugh and shake it off the best I can and move on.

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Or one of us runs a front on the board and deflects while the rest of us work out of sight and get it done....????
Just thinking but I still think they need to just GROW UP AND THINK OF THE DOG!

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Thanks Guys I started this thread for understanding.
I know I had missed something and when I know what i missed and where I failed I learn to do things better.

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All of the rescue people I know are great to work with! I am sure you are as well. I just have never met you.

What I believe you are not understanding is that we cannot stop the non rescuers from doing what they do behind the scenes. Oh...and I do NOT mean that all people who are not rescuers have no clue. The majority of people on this thread right now have a huge clue. It is the minority that is causing the issues...and they are making themselves loud enough to try and convince themselves that they are the majority. They cannot grasp that in most places majority rules...not the other way around. They want to fix what is not broken...they are actually breaking what is not broken. So sad.

This has happened many times....and honestly in the past with different players who are no longer on YT. The finger pointing is NOT the rescuers pointing at each other...it is the non rescuers who think they need to tell us how evil we are. I have been on the receiving end of some mighty nasty comments. Someone PMd me last week to tell me...shame on me for saving Roriee because she will need to be put to sleep and I have made her suffer. I did not lose sleep over it because I know the truth.. .... the problem is not what they think of ME...it is the weird things they are saying BEHIND THE SCENES and they DO sabotage rescuers in doing this. If you can find a way to stop that, we would have no issues. It will not stop until these people stop and I don't see that happening. Not exactly sure what their needs are, but they must be trying to fulfill them here at the pups' expense. Just very disturbing.



I also think a very similar thing happens when you post about a bad experience with a breeder. Then for gosh knows what reason, somebody on here with no knowledge of the situation, no personal experience with that breeder goes running to the breeder and letting them know they are being talked about; thus getting some sort of kick out of getting everybody riled up
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Thanks Guys I started this thread for understanding.
I know I had missed something and when I know what i missed and where I failed I learn to do things better.

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Oh, thank YOU! We all have the same sad feelings about little Mindy and wish things were different.
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No, no...it wasn't.
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Thanks Guys I started this thread for understanding.
I know I had missed something and when I know what i missed and where I failed I learn to do things better.

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Thank you and so glad that we are all on the same page. This was a great idea a lot of people have come together to do nothing more then help. If most if not all are on the same page it will be less harmful in the future when a few try to derail the next rescue attempt. Like I've said prior we are all in this for the same reasons.
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Thanks Guys I started this thread for understanding.
I know I had missed something and when I know what i missed and where I failed I learn to do things better.

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Thank YOU for starting it - there is so much knowledge out there for us all to learn what we should and should not be doing. YT is a great forum filled with great people!!!
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Thank you and so glad that we are all on the same page. This was a great idea a lot of people have come together to do nothing more then help. If most if not all are on the same page it will be less harmful in the future when a few try to derail the next rescue attempt. Like I've said prior we are all in this for the same reasons.
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I would first like to say that if this is found inappropriate by ADMIN please remove this post. But I would like to add that obviously Karla is still watching this thread and reading what is being said.


I just received an email from Karla and believe it or not she asked that I post my last correspondance with her so that everyone is able to read what she said to me.
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Your funny... Why don't you post my last email to you on the board Jodi.. Afraid people will find out the truth about you? LOL
So against my better judgement here it is. Unfortunalty, I have had to remove several of the colorful words that she used while describing me....so use your imagination and fill in the blanks.

She then added this as well and I guess would like you to all see this as well:

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By the way, whoever reported me, you just put Mindy to death as they do not release biters here, they are put down. And with the freedom of information act I will be able to see the report and who it came from and I WILL sue. I have just gotten off the phone with our family attorney.

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WTF??!! You make me sick! I was in contact you for barely ONE day.. You took it upon yourself, without my asking or permission to find Mindy a "rescue"..

Then you post nasty **** about me and then say s*** like this below (I am responding to your latest remarks on YT, see below).. Be nice to the owner and then f*** 'em say what I want.. ANd you think that makes you special? It makes you a rotten, horrible excuse for a human being.

ANd then you all blame Mary.. Jodi, the ONLY person who is at fault for "sabotaging" anything here is YOU!! Yes YOU!! You pushed the wrong person.. I was willing to give her to this local rescue, you tell her I am the problem not the dog.. You don't know jack s*** about me or Mindy so you have absolutely NO right to be making assumptions or comments about me or Mindy.

You belittled me, you accused me of stalking you on the boards, you and others debated about my damn power bill which had nothing to do with ANYTHING! And then saying I must have a huge kennel to use so much power.. B***H! It was for 2 months in a state with high everything, and wet, cold temperatures most of the year.

Then you post an email I told you NOT to share on the boards, and I am supposed to trust you? HAHA..NOT! You lost me when I got the email from Laura saying she cannot take a dog like Mindy.. I tell you and turn it and make it my fault...You have some serious issues putting animals before humans..Treating people like dirt on your shoes, like we don't matter.

You should have just put me in touch with these so called rescues and let ME talk to them about MY dog instead of giving your version of what you think is the situation.

I also never said my "YT friends" were helping... Yes I do have some very wonderful people helping me and supporting me through this and yes some are friends I have made on YT. But NOBODY slithered their way into break up you little rescue party. Nobody made me walk away from you except YOU...And your little play friends! They also had a hand in turning me completely off.

Mary didn't even know until she posted yesterday telling you guys off.. Then you post you were told to f*** off and let everyone think it was Mary who said it to you when it was ME! You set me up, and you made Mary the fall guy. I was against you all getting your hands on Roriee too.. Randi is a friend and you guys bullied her into it just like you tried with me, but I am stronger.. You picked on a woman with cancer.....You people remind me of cancer actually...

You sit there and lie on the boards about how you were helping me, and you leave SO MUCH out! And now to start up another thread and participate it when I am not there to defend myself, that is cowardly of ALL of you! You think yokiemother is so great, LMAO.. She gave me advice so off the wall even Linda had a problem with it.. She also PM'd me telling me to put her to sleep if I need to. She also put all you guys down for your crazy ideas and tried to get me to drug Mindy among other things.

Nobody manipulated me Jodi, I do not allow people to manipulate me..I know ALL the tricks. I was on my own holding a job and apartment in Seattle at the age of 16! I can see right through people like you and Linda.

You and your old cronies need to just back the f*** OFF! You will never bully me into giving Mindy to anyone YOU know. And you will never know what is happening after this email with Mindy. Had you been kinder and more compassionate to me and my situation I might have been more open to you. But I wasn't just about to hand her over to anyone and especially a so called rescue who I couldn't even talk to on the phone.

You can call every shelter in this state and you will never hear of her being turned into one. I would put her to sleep before sending her to a nasty shelter.

I actually found a trainer a couple of miles from me who says she can help Mindy. She is coming to my home next week. I have seen video's of many of her sessions with dogs like mindy and worse and I believe she can help. And if she is able to help Mindy and we are able to re-home her, the trainer will work with the new owners as well to help her settle in. And no I am not going to give you the name of facility and trainer. It is just none of your business..

You have nothing vested in Mindy except what you think is your business because you and Linda are the big bad dog stealing, people bullying "rescuers"... I am the one connected and bonded with Mindy and "I" know what is best for her and I will be the one to make the decisions. And that just drives you and Linda nuts that you cannot get me to fold.

Just remember the injustice done here was done by you and the others in your little gang are the ones who pushed me away from accepting any "help" from you... Shipping her to RI..your nuts, that is near a 10 hour flight with layovers. That would traumatize her more then you can imagine.

My vet said NO way should a dog like her who has gone through what she has and with the anxiety she has should be shipped anywhere! But did you think of that? No, all you can think and say is "we gotta get her away from that woman"!! Like I am some evil force beating the s**t out of her.. So my vet gave me the name and number to this trainer..

You have made me more determined to keep her, so I thank you for that. So from here on out you will not know what is going on, whatever happens only my vet, my friend and I will know what is going on or what happens with Mindy.

Do NOT ever contact me again Jodi!!! I am done with you so Do Not to waste your breath because this is the last time I will respond to anything you have to say!
Karla

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*I was communicating via email for days with her and up until this afternoon at 3:15 PM she was still talking with me. She also gave me her phone number. But someone took it upon themselves to once again go behind our backs as a rescue and manipulate the situation. I've emailed Karla this evening and there is still an offer on the table. She has not responded.

Believe me there have been plenty of dogs that have been saved on this board from YHR. It has only been recently that someone if throwing monkey wrenches into the equation and undermining what we have tried to accomplish. Even though others have asked this person to back off she still insists on causing problems.

Nothing will be accomplished with this type of behavior going on behind the scenes to intentionally fill peoples heads with falsehoods.

Mindy as far as I know is still alive but after what has happened this afternoon I seriously doubt that she will have any further communication with me.

This all was a terrible injustice to a poor defenseless dog that didn't ask to be put into this situation.

I do know how to handle myself when it comes to rescues. If you remember I was able to get Teagan surrendered. I even hugged the woman when all was said and done. No on ever thought that would happen. But then again that was long before we had the type of interference that has occurred the last 2 times that we have tried to pursaude an owner to surrender. Roriee's owner was contacted accusations where put into her head about members of YHR and now Mindy's owner is saying that her "real YT friends" are helping her.

Like I said, the offer is still out there and Alexandra Morgan is willing to take Mindy and rehabilitate her. There are offers of payment for the shipping from WA to RI and even an offer to pick her up from the airport and transport her. I have not heard back.
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Ok. She had her final say. I hope all goes well with Mindy.
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So mad! Just love the kind of person who blames everybody else. This lady all but stated she was putting this dog down, now it's whomever reported hers fault. And she is going to sue whoever reported her? I don't believe anything illegal occurred there.
As far as I have read, you never said Mary told you to .... off. I never got that impression. And now she is saying oh I can't fly the dog against the advice of my vet. Ummm, that wasn't what you said before, what she stated was it was going to cost too much money so she wasn't going to do it.
Lady, take some responsibility. If this dog is put down, it is all on you! Don't try blaming those that tried to help you!
I am just sickened, though sadly not surprised.
I am just shaking my head and walking away......

Thank you Megansmomma for all your effort.
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Karla~I am going to state this right here and now in the public forum. DO NOT EMAIL ME AGAIN!

I will not tolerate your abusive emails and I will no longer respond to you. Let me repeat this one more time...........

DO NOT EMAIL ME AGAIN!
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