My 16 Week old is still pooping and peeing in her crate

[Tanjay]

I thought Buddy was never gonna get the idea that he had to poo outside, then one day it just clicked with him, never crated him, dont believe in it, but I am shocked that someone wants a 16 week old puppy to do miracles, way too impatient if you ask me

[brittnee]

Originally Posted by miababyjeff

I am beside myself and I about ready to give up. I have tried and tried to have patience with this potty training thing. I feel like we got our yorkie from a puppy mill, only we paid almost 2000.00 for her from a "show breeder". Obviously she was raised like she lived in a pet store because our puppy is a nightmare to housetrain. She poops in her kennel and pees, she jumped on my sofa and pooped, she pooped on my bed pillow. I had a yorkie before that would have NEVER pooped in her bed in her crate! So what the heck is wrong with this dog and will she ever get it? I take her out constantly to go potty and give her treats when she goes and she has done it like 100 hundred times, but obviously it is not registering with her that she is supposed to go outside and why would she be ok with pooping in her own bed? It makes me so upset that we spent so much money for a dog that the breeder did nothing for as far as training.

Don't listen to these noobs recommending pee-pads/exercise pens. Those are the worse god-awful contraptions and always lead to pooping/peeing in the house. She'll still pee/poop on anything soft if you use pee-pads and encourage her to go in the house - including her crate.

There's a reason this breed has such issues. Breeders/owners don't treat them like dogs and they're small and don't have as much concept as to what is their "den".

Treat her as you would a large breed dog. Stick to a tight schedule and try to remove any urine/poop scent in the house/crate. You may not be able to smell it, but she still can. Buy new bedding for the crate if necessary. Take her out first thing in the morning. Feed her. Take her out 15-30 minutes after eating. Take her outside again in 1-2 hours. Repeat this. Don't give her free access to food/water. Feed 4 or so meals on a tight schedule a day and take her out 15-30 minutes afterward.

Keep her tethered to you via a leash when she's inside. Gently correct if she goes inside (she has no clue this is bad... be careful, you don't want her to avoid going in front of you) and take her outside when she does have an accident. Reward her like crazy when she goes in the desired area. Like she jumped through hoops.

[DvlshAngel985]

Originally Posted by brittnee

Don't listen to these noobs recommending pee-pads/exercise pens. Those are the worse god-awful contraptions and always lead to pooping/peeing in the house. She'll still pee/poop on anything soft if you use pee-pads and encourage her to go in the house - including her crate.

There's a reason this breed has such issues. Breeders/owners don't treat them like dogs and they're small and don't have as much concept as to what is their "den".

Wow. The rest of your post was very informative, and not much different from what was already said. I respect the fact that you don't agree or don't like x-pens and piddle pads, but to call the members that are trying to help "noobs" because you don't agree with what was posted is harsh and uncalled for. People post their experiences in hopes that others can learn and the OP is welcome to pick and choose from the advice given to fit the needs of her lifestyle and her pup.

You don't agree with piddle pads and expens? I don't agree with crates. I'm sorry, I'll never crate my dog for any reason. When his ex-pen was up, that was his space, now that he doesn't need it, he has a tent in the living room for privacy. So yes, he has his "den." Just because I don't like crates, I'm not going to attack anyone that uses them. To each their own.

Also, you are new here. Welcome! I hope you enjoy the forum. I would like to direct you to a thread. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...d-respect.html It's a great thread for newbies to read among countless others.

[WV~Yorkies]

Originally Posted by brittnee

Don't listen to these noobs recommending pee-pads/exercise pens. Those are the worse god-awful contraptions and always lead to pooping/peeing in the house. She'll still pee/poop on anything soft if you use pee-pads and encourage her to go in the house - including her crate.

There's a reason this breed has such issues. Breeders/owners don't treat them like dogs and they're small and don't have as much concept as to what is their "den".

Treat her as you would a large breed dog. Stick to a tight schedule and try to remove any urine/poop scent in the house/crate. You may not be able to smell it, but she still can. Buy new bedding for the crate if necessary. Take her out first thing in the morning. Feed her. Take her out 15-30 minutes after eating. Take her outside again in 1-2 hours. Repeat this. Don't give her free access to food/water. Feed 4 or so meals on a tight schedule a day and take her out 15-30 minutes afterward.

Keep her tethered to you via a leash when she's inside. Gently correct if she goes inside (she has no clue this is bad... be careful, you don't want her to avoid going in front of you) and take her outside when she does have an accident. Reward her like crazy when she goes in the desired area. Like she jumped through hoops.

Noob...

I have an xpen for my puppies and would not do it any other way. I can't keep up with all the puppies running all over the house..yes they will pee and poop everywhere. They are puppies! The only way for a breeder to help in potty training is an xpen and pee pads. I will not let my puppies go outside until they have had all their shots. Most of the time 12 weeks +. I don't know why people expect a 10-16 week old puppy to get it in a few days. They are still babies. They can not hold it for long. When it hits them they have to go now even though they where just out. Potty training is not easy and takes alot of work from the owners. My Pups are 8 weeks old and when in the xpen they will use the pad. I let them out to play several times a day but they are supervised the whole time by me and my kids. If the poop.. I don't get upset..I clean it up.

Something else people need to understand. No matter how much time and work breeders put in it all changes when they go to their forever home. It is a set back for them. They are nervous, the enviorment is different, they miss mom, littermate and the people that raised them fror 12 weeks. Stress will cause them to pee and poop more.

I think every buyer should know that sometimes Yorkies can be hard to train. I have heard that some have accidents forever. I really wish they would think real hard about this before they jump in and buy that cute puppy. Can they handle if the puppy is not trained by 6 months old? What if the puppy still has accidents at a year? Can they handle it? If no I don't think a puppy is for them.

[DvlshAngel985]

Originally Posted by WV~Yorkies

Noob...

I have an xpen for my puppies and would not do it any other way. I can't keep up with all the puppies running all over the house..yes they will pee and poop everywhere. They are puppies! The only way for a breeder to help in potty training is an xpen and pee pads. I will not let my puppies go outside until they have had all their shots. Most of the time 12 weeks +. I don't know why people expect a 10-16 week old puppy to get it in a few days. They are still babies. They can not hold it for long. When it hits them they have to go now even though they where just out. Potty training is not easy and takes alot of work from the owners. My Pups are 8 weeks old and when in the xpen they will use the pad. I let them out to play several times a day but they are supervised the whole time by me and my kids. If the poop.. I don't get upset..I clean it up.

Something else people need to understand. No matter how much time and work breeders put in it all changes when they go to their forever home. It is a set back for them. They are nervous, the enviorment is different, they miss mom, littermate and the people that raised them fror 12 weeks. Stress will cause them to pee and poop more.

I think every buyer should know that sometimes Yorkies can be hard to train. I have heard that some have accidents forever. I really wish they would think real hard about this before they jump in and buy that cute puppy. Can they handle if the puppy is not trained by 6 months old? What if the puppy still has accidents at a year? Can they handle it? If no I don't think a puppy is for them.

Good post!

[WV~Yorkies]

Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985

Wow. The rest of your post was very informative, and not much different from what was already said. I respect the fact that you don't agree or don't like x-pens and piddle pads, but to call the members that are trying to help "noobs" because you don't agree with what was posted is harsh and uncalled for. People post their experiences in hopes that others can learn and the OP is welcome to pick and choose from the advice given to fit the needs of her lifestyle and her pup.

You don't agree with piddle pads and expens? I don't agree with crates. I'm sorry, I'll never crate my dog for any reason. When his ex-pen was up, that was his space, now that he doesn't need it, he has a tent in the living room for privacy. So yes, he has his "den." Just because I don't like crates, I'm not going to attack anyone that uses them. To each their own.

Also, you are new here. Welcome! I hope you enjoy the forum. I would like to direct you to a thread. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...d-respect.html It's a great thread for newbies to read among countless others.

I don't like crates either. I think xpens are a much better way for puppies. Those who use them that is their choice.

[Rhetts_mama]

Whether you choose to use a crate or xpen, the basic idea is the same- the dog is in a confined area when you aren't watching them with an eagle eye during the housebreaking process.

I'm not a pee pad fan just because I found that my dogs took the idea of something on the floor= ok to pee on. And usually that "something" was the dining room rug or a clean pile of clothes that hadn't gotten put away yet (I accept TOTAL blame for that one!)

That being said, it does storm a lot here (and occasionally snows). I know I need to find a way for Rhett to "go" when when the weather is too bad. I have a friend who trained her doxie to use the litter box. Has anybody done something similar with their yorkie?



OK- while I was typing this, I looked out of the corner of my eye and saw Rhett assuming the position. Guess I better take my own advice and get off the computer and watch him better!

[capt_noonie]

Originally Posted by brittnee

Don't listen to these noobs recommending pee-pads/exercise pens. Those are the worse god-awful contraptions and always lead to pooping/peeing in the house. She'll still pee/poop on anything soft if you use pee-pads and encourage her to go in the house - including her crate.

There's a reason this breed has such issues. Breeders/owners don't treat them like dogs and they're small and don't have as much concept as to what is their "den".

Treat her as you would a large breed dog. Stick to a tight schedule and try to remove any urine/poop scent in the house/crate. You may not be able to smell it, but she still can. Buy new bedding for the crate if necessary. Take her out first thing in the morning. Feed her. Take her out 15-30 minutes after eating. Take her outside again in 1-2 hours. Repeat this. Don't give her free access to food/water. Feed 4 or so meals on a tight schedule a day and take her out 15-30 minutes afterward.

Keep her tethered to you via a leash when she's inside. Gently correct if she goes inside (she has no clue this is bad... be careful, you don't want her to avoid going in front of you) and take her outside when she does have an accident. Reward her like crazy when she goes in the desired area. Like she jumped through hoops.

I thought this person was already banned before? I guess they were suspended last time?

[y0rk13s]

I was wondering if anyone has heard of the potty traing issue i am having?
my puppy is 1yrs old. she will go in her crate but will not go in her bed she sleeps in at night. what makes it even stranger is she will pee outside but will come into the house to take a dump. i am not sure where i've gone wrong here. i am not angry accidents are expected. just wondering what else i can do. i am expecting a new yorkie addition 6/2. so the sooner i can figure it out the better.

[Lorraine]

Housebreaking issues are the number one cause for people to surrender or euthanize, yes, kill, their puppy or dog.
Beware before you buy and shame on the breeder that does not warn any potential owner before the purchase is made.
A reputable breeder will also take the dog back if it doesn't work out.

[Deuce]

I finally gave up on the crate, I always felt bad when I put him in there, even for just the few hours between when I leave for work and my lunch break. He did have a couple accidents in there, which I assume is because he has such a tiny bladder. So now, when I'm not at home he is confined to the kitchen, and yes, I use potty pads and he uses them, (i dont want to jinx it or anything but he uses them 100% of the time). For some lucky reason, he caught on that poo goes outside, but he's also really regular. Once in the morning, once in the afternoons (lunch) and once when I get home from work. Occasionally he'll go once more before bed, but I guess I just lucked out with him. I think once he is a few months older and can hold it longer I'll be able to take away the potty pads and I'll have a housebroken dog. I dont leave the pads on the ground when I'm at home though so he goes strait to stand at the back door when he needs to go out, but he only gives me 30 seconds to open it before he will start circling. Considering he is only 5 months old I think we're doing well.
Maybe you can try to give up on the crate like I did. He is much happier now, and even seems more energized, I love it, but the cat doesnt, lol. Good luck!

[Deuce]

Originally Posted by Lorraine

Housebreaking issues are the number one cause for people to surrender or euthanize, yes, kill, their puppy or dog.
Beware before you buy and shame on the breeder that does not warn any potential owner before the purchase is made.
A reputable breeder will also take the dog back if it doesn't work out.

I didn't know people put down a dog just because it couldnt be house trained by them. I guess I'm still too naive to understand some people's rationale when it comes to dog owning. I would gladly take an "un-trainable" dog and train it myself, even if I had to take a couple of weeks of leave to be with it constantly to be consistent with the training routine. I don't know much about training dogs, but I would never give a dog up just because I couldn't potty train it.

[DamSweet]

My Bridget was a rescue and at 7 months I am so pleased with her pottying I could burst. I expected so much worse. When I first got her at 12 weeks she had no idea that there were special places to to her business (which is to be expected). I tried to put her in a crate - part with pads and part with her bedding/food/water, etc. (mostly for safety reasons). I work during the day and therefore expected her to potty in her crate (that's why there were pads). She HATED the crate....she would spill her water - tear up her pads, and poop and pee everywhere. But I was told that is where she should be by a lot of well meaning friends. When I'd get home I worked on getting her to use pads outside the crate. She did well with a lot of praise and persistance (and treats). But would NOT poop on the pad (she would go anywhere and everywhere else....even by my foot as I was standing at the sink). Someone mentioned that some dogs do not like to poop where they pee - so I put down pads in a different location....still no luck - but would always poop in her crate. Once she was a little more comfortable with her new surroundings, I gave her free run of her own bedroom, blocked off from the rest of the house by baby gates with pads placed in several different locations in the room. The crate was left up with the door opened. THAT is where she decided to poop....IN HER CRATE!!! Well - it wasn't on the carpet, so that was fine with me...I just kept putting clean pads down every day in her crate and she pretty much trained herself. I first removed the "crate" part leaving the plastic base with papers....to see if that would change anything and she still went there - I am gradually moving the pad to where I want it to be.....and she's doing great....all in baby steps!!

I guess my point (if I can remember what I was going to say)...is that it might not have been the text book way to train her, but once she decided on a spot - (and I know not ALL spots they chose are acceptable) - that is where I put down the pad, and gradually move it so that she didn't realize that it changed. As soon as I get home I take her outside and she will do her business outside. I can tell from the pads about how long before I got home she used them, and it seems like maybe mid-day. So by the time I get home - she is doing the "potty dance" to go outside. Pads really are an amazing thing - I don't know what I'd do without them. You just never know when something may come up that will cause you to be away from home for longer than anticipated and it gives them a chance to relieve themselves if needed.

They ARE like babies - we baby-proof our homes so they are safe - we need to puppy-proof them also (Bridget also has a fasination with electrical outlets....baby plugs were inserted). Plastic tablecloths on the furniture or over the bed "just in case" . Not that it's acceptable, but at least nothing is ruined during the training process.
Sorry - this potty thing has so many new yorkie parents so upset, but all the reading I did before getting Bridget told me to expect it to take a long...long...time. No one should be upset, especially with a puppy this young.
(too bad long posts don't count extra toward the number of counts needed to join the YT Gift Exchange....I'd be there already!!)

[Deuce]

Originally Posted by DamSweet

Sorry - this potty thing has so many new yorkie parents so upset, but all the reading I did before getting Bridget told me to expect it to take a long...long...time. No one should be upset, especially with a puppy this young.
(too bad long posts don't count extra toward the number of counts needed to join the YT Gift Exchange....I'd be there already!!)

I figured the same thing when I decided on getting Rizzo, figured it would take forever to get him trained, but he is doing really well considering how young he is. Plus, I lucked out and picked the perfect time to get him, my house has all marble flooring, and a couple area rugs which I can pick up if he is going to be in the room for a while and I'm not watching him, (like the one in my bedroom when I'm sleeping) So even though he has had a few accidents, its super easy clean up. But I know not everyone is this lucky.

I don't think it's possible to be upset with these little ones for more than 2 seconds, one look at that cute little face and I still melt, lol. I'm weak, he owns me something about that yorkie smile keeps him out of trouble.

[maggiecc]

looks like everyone has suggestions for you. I have a 5 week old and she has her days. We make sure we keep her outside until she goes. And if she doesn't go, then she goes back in her kennel. If your dog is going in their kennel then i would line the kennel with a puppy pad. If you catch them in the process, say "no" and then take them outside immmediatly and wait for them to go. Lots of praise is good. Keep a close eye on them and if they do any sniffing around make sure you take them outside. They will pick up on it. Don't give up.