I may have to give him up... he's 5 m/o and scarily aggressive =*(

[AbbysMom08]

I am so very sorry for everything you are going through right now.
I really don't have an answer for you.
I just hope all works out well for both you and your little guy.
I will keep the both of you in my prayers.

[FlDebra]

I wish I could offer advice but I have not been faced with a puppy with that bad of behavior problems. I am glad for the long post Carol(member name Archie) wrote to you about her experience with Buddy. At least you can hear from someone else that has been through something similar with their puppy.

I can offer some suggestions but I do not begin to think I know what it is like to be in your situation so feel free to toss my ideas. The only idea I got from reading through your post was that you said you had tried so many different approaches to training your Rocky, yet he is only 5 months old -- so I imagine you have had him for only a couple of months. Consistency is a BIG part of successful training, especially with our willful little toy breed. Could it be that you are changing your training methods too soon and too often? Just an idea to think about, not saying anything for sure.

I imagine most of the misbehaving is because of not being socialized as a puppy, perhaps being taken away from the mother too soon, and poor breeding practices. Some may be due to him sensing your health problems as another poster suggested. I find mine do sense when I am physically or emotionally hurting -- but they tend to lay on me and be quieter -- extra loving not wilder.

I can't imagine going through all you are and also having to deal with a puppy that has this bad of behavior problems. It might be that you should not continue to struggle with this at this point in your life. I do agree with the others though PLEASE, PLEASE do not turn him in to a shelter/pound. If you tell that he has bitten, many states have a mandatory kill policy. Much better to relinguish to a rescue letting them know just what you have us in your post. They will find someone that has the time, energy and hopefully the experience to deal with extreme behavior problems. At least the little guy will get to live.

Even at the best of times, a yorkie puppy requires a lot of attention and patience to get through the puppy stage. Sometimes I think my Rocky loses his mind for an hour or so a day. But luckily he has always been well socialized (I raised him! ) and wants his loving enough to turn around and act right just as I am wondering what in the world to do. With your situation it might be that a grown yorkie would be a better match. Some puppies are just a lot more difficult than others, regardless of their origins. But I imagine a puppymill makes it a lot more likely behavior problems will abound. With everything you have to deal with on a daily baiss, I would not hesitate to change the situation if you feel you have given all you can to trying with your Rocky. It might just be in both of your best interest to rehome. You could try here on YT. There may be someone willing to work through his problems.

I would not let one mismatch turn you away from yorkies though. I think they would be the perfect breed if you had a little older, more settled one. I have dealt with a lot this past couple of years and cannot imagine not having mine. They are such a huge comfort and source of enjoyment. Saying a prayer for you, Rocky and your whole situation!

[megansmomma]

Please just turn him over to rescue. To be perfectly blunt, you purchased Rocky from a mill who was selling him cheap and way too young at 8 weeks. As with many new owners you did not due your homework and purchased on price alone. As you have said he was bought as a replacement for your fertility issue and his behavior is not what you expected from your "baby". I'm in no way trying to be heartless but he will never be what your exceptions of a baby replacement. You seem to be ill equipped to handle his issues and if you are not willing to accept him as he is you need to do the responsible thing and turn him over to a rescue. I understand and sympathize with your medical issues as they are heartbreaking. Poor breeding, taken from mom and liter mates too soon, his temperament issues sadly will most likely never be corrected. His only chance at a well adjusted life is for his issues to be addressed by someone with a lot of experience. He is 5 months and timing is very important when it comes to these types of issues. Please let me know if I can help with a rescue in your area.

[MarloKay]

I agree with Archi / Carol...
We may be new to yorkies and we will learn from our mistakes...... Some people just dont understand.
I believe in you and your little buddy. Maybe it is what you need. You can both help eachother out!! It could get your mind off your illness. Just try and do what Carol said! You can do it and we all will be here for support to help guide you through with prayers and advice! Keep us posted.

[littlewhip]

Im very sorry for all your health problems, I have many of my own and i know my babies help me get thru my days, I could not manage if mine were not well trained, So this must be very fustrating for you, He may just be feeling your pain as well, They know....I wish you the very best and will be praying things get better....other members gave you great advise.

[Lula-Mae Famous]

Originally Posted by Rocky-Baby

I can't even walk him. He'll bite his leash and it becomes "his toy" - he'll literally GO for you if you try to get the leash to walk him. The craziest bark I've ever heard - and I've had rottweilers, malamutes, even other terriers - I have NEVER had a dog try to attack me like Rocky does. When you try to pet him he bites you every. time. We tried crate training after the first week or so of getting 0 sleep with him in our room. Then he just got meaner and meaner. We bought a huge puppy play pen, hoping to teach him some gratitude, kindness, like getting out of the pen is a "privaledge" so you should behave (aka no bite when being pet, no jump and try and bite the face when person's at your level - aka just act like an effing dog WITHOUT rabies!!!). I have tried everything and he has just gotten more and more aggressive. I got him from the LIAR'S website puppypetite.com - which is not like a house like they show online, you drive 2 hours to find it's a friggin MILL. He poo's and pee's where he sleeps - we've tried everything from pee sprays to dog litter to news paper with hormone pee spray to walking (but you heard how that goes - and we've tried with leash and harness and leash with COLLAR - he just goes INSANE) - the same with when he eats or has a toy he likes - if you attempt to pet him he tries to take your head off and acts like a tazmanian devil. I'm devastated. Do I nuter him and see if a miracle happens? Which here will cost me over $500.00 in pre-op testing and the surgery - or should I hand him over to the pound (obviously on full disclosure) and try for another dog. I think something is seriously wrong with him. We had a trainer come to us and all... I bought and read and APPLIED the teachings of 4 different yorkie training books, but NONE of them describe a dog near the way Rocky acts. My heart is broken... for those of you who remember us - we're the couple who got married and I got sick on my honeymoon. After a 40 day period 8 months later now it's stopped coming for a straight 8 months. I have ectopic endometriosis and a brain tumor (pituitary gland) which makes my body ACT like it's pregnant (I'm lactating, went from an AA cup to a C - abdomen swolling, crying fits and mood swings, cravings) - all which are a constant reminder of my serious endo - which 9/10 doctors have said a baby is a million to one chance - especially since during this time they found I had vasculitis - which turned into Behcet's - a rare multi-system rheumatologic vascular autoimmune disease - causing severe arthritis and interior/exterior lesions that cause central nervous system damage, as well as peripheral...worst of all, it causes bi-lateral blindness in over 50% of patients... and research has only started in America since 2005... We're 24... and it all just seemed so unfair - my parents agreed a puppy could fill the gap the pregnancy hormones were sending me as a cruel reminder of never being pregnant. I even have contractions here and there that are devastating. At 24 I'm on oxycontin and oxycodone both throughout my everyday - as well as neurontin and the plethora of behcet's immunostabilizers - next step are anti-cancer injections... and of course - God hands me a killer yorkie - a YORKIE of all killers! =(

Sorry for the novel... it just breaks my heart =(

I kicked cancer's ass years ago... but not before cancer got in a few good shots. Treatments can be hell. Recovery can be tricky.
You must be exhausted.
I have endo as well.
The first week I had my little girl my boyfriend was away and I was all alone with her. The constant supervision was starting to get to me. Crate training was wearing me down. Of course she wasn’t eating for the first few days, stressing me out.
After that first week I got my period.
I am very lucky to have a fantastic boyfriend. he has really been there for me. I was able to take my pain killers and rest while he watched her. I finally got some alone time. I finally got to rest a bit. I needed it!

Its a lot and its hard. I dont think I would be able to do it without him here to help me.
Being as sick as you are, its too much to do alone. You need help. See if your husband can give you a "you day" no dog, just you and a full day to relax, physically and mentally before you sink deeper.

Take a breath, call a GOOD dog trainer. be consistent.
If you cant please do the right thing and find this little guy a home where he can grow to be a healthy dog.

as another poster suggested maybe what you need is an adult dog. a puppy may just be too much for you right now.

p.s. a friend of mine used to foster pit bulls. she is a dog trainer and would prepare them for a domesticated life. it takes more than a couple weeks to turn aggressive behavior around.
one thing she did was to make sure the dog knew he needed their human. she would place their dish of dog food between her feet while they ate (she would have me do this when i came over so they didnt just behave for her). we would tower over them. The dogs had to take their eyes off of us and be venerable in order to eat their food.

[bailie]

Originally Posted by chandracz

I want to give you a little bit of my input. I have a bunch of medical problems (NOTHING as serious as yours, but still there). I'm not as brave as you, so I'm not going to talk about it here, BUT I will say that when I am "hurting" Bailey can sense it and he really acts out. He is almost uncontrollable for me! Bailey has major separation anxiety and he's a very high maintenance dog (above and beyond being a yorkie). I've gone through 4 trainers and 2 petsmart classes. I can tell you that I think it may have something to do with your baby being able to to sense your medical condition and perhaps is acting out because of it. Maybe you may want train your baby through like a therapy dog program or service dog or something similar? In fact, I don't know why I never thoguht of that for Bailey...LOL! Just a thought... Good luck with your everything you are going through!!!!!! Hugs!

omg. i totally agree. they sense everything, when ur ill , sad, angery,happy etc.. dont give up on the furbut or urself. have faith, our thoughts are with you x

[jeanm1963]

I got my puppy when I was recovering from Chemo and Radiation and let me tell you I was exhausted, I am very fortunate to have had alot of help here, it sounds to me like you really need to focus on your health, if you cant get help please send the puppy to a rescue. Cancer treatements are long hard and difficult I will tell you that I could have NEVER done it while doing treatment, I was sick, tired and cranky and Im sure that my puppy would have felt this.
Please focus on your own health it is important to be stress free and get all the rest you can.
I pray you feel better soon.

[Rocky-Baby]

Originally Posted by ARCHIE

Honey, first of all, what you have is an unsocialized puppy. That's all!
I will admit Buddy seemed pretty much the same way at that age. I thought
he had a screw loose, really but with reading and common sence we got
threw this period. Puppepetite is, as you know now not the place to purchase
a healthy puppy. Buddy was from a place similar to that and I can relate
to you. What I did was crate him during the day when I was not home,
walked him immediately when I got home. He was pretty aggressive outdoors as well, picking up cigarettes, pine cones etc while walking. Trying to get
these things out of his mouth was awful. He bit me everytime and such
an aggressive growl it made the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
I thought perhaps something was wrong with his brain. LOL
During my home hours I put a gate up across the room I was in and let
him hang out with me. I kept treats next to me and talked to him all the
while I was watching tv. He was not huggable then either. Every so often
I would call his name and lean over and treat him and say good boy.
After a couple of nights he started coming to me, then up on the chair with me, of course looking for treats but we were making progress. Your baby
has to trust you is all. His surroundings are all new to him and he probably
was never hugged or kissed by a human. Build trust the rest will come
gradually. Puppies are little terriers anyhow but to add one that has
not been socialized only makes it's worse. With lot's of training, love
and patience Buddy is a wonderful pet today. We went threw many
difficult times, food guarding, toy guarding, pet guarding etc. We got
threw it and the only thing we are still working on is aggression with
bigger dogs. He's come a long way and it was all worth it. I can't imagine
life without my Bud. Yorkies that don't get that in-home puppy experience
which only dedicated breeder's can give,
can come to you like this but you can and will make him the Yorkie
he was ment to be. He only got a bad start, that was no fault of his.
All the things you mentioned can be corrected. Believe me. Buddy
is 5 now and when I look back I laugh at this little dog and what he
put me threw. For dog's that are from puppymills, byb and pet stores
this is what can happen and more often than not it does.
Be patient and loving and you won't be sorry.
Good luck,
I am so sorry your sick as well. I hope things work out for
you regarding your puppy and health.
If you can't handle him please look to a rescue not a
pound because anyone who get's him will only return him
and heaven forbid he bites someone being unsocialized he
will be put down.

God Bless - all 4 of my grandparents plus the 1 great grandparent I knew had Cancer - and Cancer weakened them all to death but 1 of of 5. My maternal grandmother fought from the age of apx 50 until it took her after her third relape at 64 - that was my whole life. She died 3 weeks after I turned fifteen.

I've also traind "the untrainable" - from ferile cats to a beaten pitt mix and my last dog, a rottweiler from the pound who we domesticated and she died just last year as a sweet thing (cancer - 3 dogs of mine have died from cancer - it stalks me, I swear lol...not really lol - but you get me) - but something is wrong with this yorkie. Now - since this week - he has begun attacking for NO REASON. At first he began to attack only if you touched his bully bone - which is reasonable for a dog - he thinks you're going to take his "prey". We got a trainer - and my husband, for the record, has had more days with Rock than I have in these past 2 months, as well as my brother who helps out (he's 20). Then the dog began attacking when anyone went near him when eating - again reasonable for a dog. Then all of a sudden, for no reason at all, he'd be laying in the living room (this began this week), and if you walked into the room he'd start the attacj bark - the "rrrorororororoooooaaaarrrrrrrrrr" bark - teeth bear and if you don't move from that room within a minute or so he LUNGE ATTACKS and will BITE whatever is nearest - hand or foot - and NOT LET GO without being PRYED off. That was scary. Then he did it again - so I tried, for the first time ever, rolling up a magazine to use as a guard while trying to move him and (yes, I'll say it) threaten him with because an 8 pound yorkie is not taking me down of all friggin things man - and he CATCHES the paper/magazine MID-AIR and begins to CHEW UP IT until he can reach your HAND! He has BALLS! It's seriously scary!!! He attacked my brothers girlfriend last night - ripped her shoe from her food (an UGG) and then began to do the crazy rabies-kujo bark he does (I swear it is so deep and loud if I can record it NO ONE will believe me this is a yorkie - it sounds deeper than my rotties' did!!) - it was about 2am and I woke up out of my sleep to see what was happening - my brother and his girlfriend were trying to get her SHOE BACK and the dog was going CRAZY - he bit my brothers hand - and you know how with a real terrier they'll grab a bone and no matter how high in the air you pull it, the terrier will go up even say 4 feet high - hanging by the jaw - with it? Well he did that to my brothers' HAND.

He may have to go. I woke up my husband (who could sleep through a damn tornado I swear) and he began crying in his sleep when I said "Rocky may have to go Babe" - he said in tears "noo noooo - not my puppy...not my puppy" - we're only 24 ourselves... we've been through so much - this is just the icing... if there;s a God, he's got a lot of explaining to do... ;(

[orlnurse]

Originally Posted by harleyyorkie

Wonderful post Carol! I hope the OP will take your advise so she will be able to keep her baby and have a great relationship with him.

I agree..too many dogs end up at the pound because people don't get the proper help. I adopted my dog Max from a rescue who knew nothing of his past. Twice now, he has "attacked" me and I know there are people out there who would have given him up. We signed up for private personal training and it hasn't happened since.

[TLC]

I am really sorry for all you are going thru.

There are a number of Good - Dog Aggression, Food Aggression, Toy Aggression books out there. Check out Welcome to Dogwise.com - Dog Books

He is only 5 months old and this does happen when he thinks he is "King" of the house.

I would get him neutered, and try again with strict training. If you have no other choice, please contact a Reputable Yorkie Rescue. There are a good number of them in the NYC area.

Just don't bring him to the shelter, they will either PTS or adopt him out to someone not experienced and he will just keep getting passed around.

....I had a foster dog who was 7 yr, male, not neutered, passed around to 5 different homes, and he was abused. His behavior was the same as you explain. He finally got neutered and boy oh boy did he stop with that rage defense, plus he is finally learning to trust and the rules...

Best Wishes

[kjc]

Hi Sorry for all your issues... this is something silly and very easy for you to try. He sounds to me like a spoiled, out of control brat. No fault of yours. Try acting like his mother ... literally. Try growling at him, or barking. You may have to try different pitches and types of growls, or ask a breeder (?) until you find one that he responds to. I've seen pups with his behavior, rabid is a perfect description. Once he responds, you'll be able to form a relationship with him.

[zekie's mom]

Sounds like you have an Alpha male. I also have one. He is a little over a year old now, but he was a brat for a long time. He was an only child and I got him at 8 weeks. I got him neutered not too long ago, and at first I did not notice much difference, but he seems to be calming down now. He can still be a brat, and we probably are not as strict with him as we should be, but we accept him as he is and that means sometimes he still acts like a brat. Many dogs grab and chew on their leash as they are being walked. I know you are not supposed to let them do this, but I can not see any harm in it. It is just because they are excited to be going for a walk. Walk him and play ball with him as much as you can to wear him out. A tired Yorkie is usually a well behaved Yorkie. Much of his aggression might be pent up energy that he does not know how to get rid of.

[manina]

God Bless You and your family during this time. I hope and pray u get better soon, You have so much going on right now. I would try and get help for your furbaby , maybe a good trained. How, I hope it works out for both of u.
If u need to re-home him, pls make sure it is a rescue for Yorkie or small dogs.
bark@ulater!!!!
manina,miley,max

[livingdustmops]

I am sorry for all of your health issues but it is my experience once someone has thought about giving up their dog for these issues it is best that they do. Please contact a reputable rescue (I will help you) to see if anyone of them is willing to take him.

I believe you have a very high fear aggressive puppy and I think he can be helped but he is also a terrier. This combo can cause a lot of problems. I don't believe you are being cruel to give him up because I am sure he feels your frustrations. I would rather see you do this now rather than later when he could get some help.

If you do turn him into the pound he will be put down and if you say to the rescue that he is very aggressive they might not take him. I think you should just explain that you have a fear aggressive puppy that you don't know how to handle and you also have health issues.