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Old 02-23-2008, 06:46 PM   #1
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Sorry so long but I NEED HELP!!!
Some of you know that we just got our new furbaby, Lucy, a few days ago.

Problem #1: Lucy is 3 pounds and 9 months old and I was told that she was paper trained.....NOT!!!! She potty's where ever she pleases. The breeder told me that she has never been taken outside to potty because of her size. When I realized that she was not paper trained I immediately went out and bought pee pads and I am now working with her to potty on the pads. My DH is the sweetest most understanding man in the world but he HATES the pee pads!!! He thinks they are the grossest things ever. He says, she needs to potty outside. Our other Yorkie, Buddy is trained to go outside....we open the door he runs out, does his business and runs back inside....SOOOO EASY....we are very spoiled with him!! Our Buddy is 16 months old and 10 pounds.!!!
Lucy is 3 pounds...there is NOWAY she can ever go out without me taking her on a leash because I would be terrified of something getting her. Today was a beautiful day so I thought it was a good day to try to start taking Lucy out to potty. OMG....when the breeder told me she had never been taken out to potty I had NO IDEA that Lucy had NEVER been outside!!!! I can tell she has NEVER been on grass....she was terrified!!!!! She is 9 months old and NEVER been on grass!!!! So outside pottying is going to be a HUGE challenge!!! Is this doable????.....to train her to potty outside when she is terrified to be outside??? How many of you take your tiny's outside to potty?

Problem #2:
Our mudroom has always been Buddy's area. His food, his water his toys, his crate, etc.... no gate or door ...this is just his area!!! (but is was gated when he was a baby) Since we got Lucy I have had to make this her area and gate her when I cannot tend to her. (this is the only area in our house to keep her) I have moved Buddy's things to a new area. MY DH thinks this is so mean!!! But I had to move Buddy's things out because this is the ONLY place to put Lucy where she cannot get hurt when I am not around. Now I am really feeling BAD about Buddy not having his room!!!

Problem # 3
Lucy WILL NOT eat dry dog food!!!! I am FIRM believer in dry dog food. I took her to the vet yesterday after she had not eaten one bite in over 24 hours. The vet said we have to get some food in her so they gave her canned food heated in the microwave. She loved it!!! So now the only thing I can get her to eat is canned heated dog food. Sooooo I feed Buddy in one place with his dry dog food and Lucy in the gated mudroom with her heated canned food. Once again my DH says I am being so mean to Buddy. (I have to agree) Buddy just begs for her food!!! This is breaking my heart!!!

Problem #4
Buddy has lots of toys and since getting Lucy I have bought her lots of toys too. Well, Buddy is sooooo sweet that he is not getting to play with any of his toys because Lucy has taken over!!! Again, DH says this is not right....I have to agree!!!

Problem #5
Buddy always sits with me in my recliner....this is his spot!!! Since getting Lucy she WILL NOT sit with anyone but me. So guess who is left out?....my sweet Buddy!!! Buddy just sits and crys in front of my chair!!! I beg him to get up here with me...I even pick him up and sit him up here but he jumps down because of Lucy.

PLEASE, PLEASE help me!!!! There are so many of you out there that have multiply furbabies and I imagine you did not get them all at once. How do I juggle all this? Buddy is our pride & joy....we worship him!!! But Lucy is just a baby and she needs so much attention right now!!! (For the record my DH really loves Lucy too but he just feels bad for Buddy) I need some help FAST!!!!! I am so depressed right now!!! I love Buddy so much and all this is breaking my heart!!!!! Plus I am so worried about training Lucy to potty outside....is it possible?
Again, sorry so long....but I need HELP!!!
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I think it's doable and I think things will get easier and both Buddy and Lucy will adjust, it just might take a little time. Good luck!
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Sorry so long but I NEED HELP!!!
Some of you know that we just got our new furbaby, Lucy, a few days ago.

Problem #1: Lucy is 3 pounds and 9 months old and I was told that she was paper trained.....NOT!!!! She potty's where ever she pleases. The breeder told me that she has never been taken outside to potty because of her size. When I realized that she was not paper trained I immediately went out and bought pee pads and I am now working with her to potty on the pads. My DH is the sweetest most understanding man in the world but he HATES the pee pads!!! He thinks they are the grossest things ever. He says, she needs to potty outside. Our other Yorkie, Buddy is trained to go outside....we open the door he runs out, does his business and runs back inside....SOOOO EASY....we are very spoiled with him!! Our Buddy is 16 months old and 10 pounds.!!!
Lucy is 3 pounds...there is NOWAY she can ever go out without me taking her on a leash because I would be terrified of something getting her. Today was a beautiful day so I thought it was a good day to try to start taking Lucy out to potty. OMG....when the breeder told me she had never been taken out to potty I had NO IDEA that Lucy had NEVER been outside!!!! I can tell she has NEVER been on grass....she was terrified!!!!! She is 9 months old and NEVER been on grass!!!! So outside pottying is going to be a HUGE challenge!!! Is this doable????.....to train her to potty outside when she is terrified to be outside??? How many of you take your tiny's outside to potty? Since she's scared of being outside what i would do is make it really fun to be out there. give her treats outside and get her favorite toys to play with outside. also you can have your DH hold her on a leash and take buddy out to play so she sees the grass is fun. My yorkie is 4lbs and she has been going outside since i got her when she was less then 2 lbs. at first i took her out on a leash, then she had a tie out (i was outside with her), and now i can just open the door and watch her from the doorway while she potties.

Problem #2:
Our mudroom has always been Buddy's area. His food, his water his toys, his crate, etc.... no gate or door ...this is just his area!!! (but is was gated when he was a baby) Since we got Lucy I have had to make this her area and gate her when I cannot tend to her. (this is the only area in our house to keep her) I have moved Buddy's things to a new area. MY DH thinks this is so mean!!! But I had to move Buddy's things out because this is the ONLY place to put Lucy where she cannot get hurt when I am not around. Now I am really feeling BAD about Buddy not having his room!!! i think its kinda mean too. Buddy was there first and you are taking away his area and giving it to the new baby. to him, you are putting the puppy first and him last. since he's the resident dog he shouldn't feel like he's being shoved over. put his things back in there, and use the bathroom for lucy.

Problem # 3
Lucy WILL NOT eat dry dog food!!!! I am FIRM believer in dry dog food. I took her to the vet yesterday after she had not eaten one bite in over 24 hours. The vet said we have to get some food in her so they gave her canned food heated in the microwave. She loved it!!! So now the only thing I can get her to eat is canned heated dog food. Sooooo I feed Buddy in one place with his dry dog food and Lucy in the gated mudroom with her heated canned food. Once again my DH says I am being so mean to Buddy. (I have to agree) Buddy just begs for her food!!! This is breaking my heart!!! Lucy is nine months old, she's not a tiny baby anymore. i think she is old enough to "starve" a little. start by mixing the dry in with her wet and transition her over to just dry if that's what you want her to eat. she will probably reject the dry at some point when it out weighs the wet. don't give in. dogs aren't stupid. they will not starve themselves. she will eat when she's hungry enough. if you feel bad give her a lick of nutrical. I give Morgan 1/2 cup of food every night. sometimes she doesn't eat it until the next afternoon. when she's hungry she eats.

Problem #4
Buddy has lots of toys and since getting Lucy I have bought her lots of toys too. Well, Buddy is sooooo sweet that he is not getting to play with any of his toys because Lucy has taken over!!! Again, DH says this is not right....I have to agree!!! if lucy takes a toy away from Buddy, take it away from her and give it back to him.

Problem #5
Buddy always sits with me in my recliner....this is his spot!!! Since getting Lucy she WILL NOT sit with anyone but me. So guess who is left out?....my sweet Buddy!!! Buddy just sits and crys in front of my chair!!! I beg him to get up here with me...I even pick him up and sit him up here but he jumps down because of Lucy. she needs a little tough love. put her on the floor or give her to DH and have Buddy sit with you. this is now three things that he loved that he doesn't have anymore. sitting with you, his mud room, and his toys. Lucy needs to understand that there is buddy time and there is lucy time. she cannot dominate everything in the house. if you keep giving in to her she's going to take over and be a terror to buddy and you.

PLEASE, PLEASE help me!!!! There are so many of you out there that have multiply furbabies and I imagine you did not get them all at once. How do I juggle all this? Buddy is our pride & joy....we worship him!!! But Lucy is just a baby and she needs so much attention right now!!! (For the record my DH really loves Lucy too but he just feels bad for Buddy) I need some help FAST!!!!! I am so depressed right now!!! I love Buddy so much and all this is breaking my heart!!!!! Plus I am so worried about training Lucy to potty outside....is it possible?
Again, sorry so long....but I need HELP!!!

my answers are in red. i know you just got her and you want to comfort her because everything is new, but you cannot forget about Buddy. he still should be number one and shouldn't feel pushed aside. when you give them treats give buddy one first. when you feed them give buddy his food first. everything should be him first, and if lucy objects you need to correct her.
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I think it's doable and I think things will get easier and both Buddy and Lucy will adjust, it just might take a little time. Good luck!
Thank you for saying that....any amount of encouragement helps so much!!!! I never told my DH that I was posting for help on here. He just walked by me... he reached & picked up Lucy and gave her kisses....that made me feel better too!! Like I said, DH is so sweet but I know he is frustrated right now...just as I am!! I just want this rotten feeling to pass....or just know that things are going to get better!!!
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Sorry so long but I NEED HELP!!!
Some of you know that we just got our new furbaby, Lucy, a few days ago.

Problem #1: Lucy is 3 pounds and 9 months old and I was told that she was paper trained.....NOT!!!! She potty's where ever she pleases. The breeder told me that she has never been taken outside to potty because of her size. When I realized that she was not paper trained I immediately went out and bought pee pads and I am now working with her to potty on the pads. My DH is the sweetest most understanding man in the world but he HATES the pee pads!!! He thinks they are the grossest things ever. He says, she needs to potty outside. Our other Yorkie, Buddy is trained to go outside....we open the door he runs out, does his business and runs back inside....SOOOO EASY....we are very spoiled with him!! Our Buddy is 16 months old and 10 pounds.!!!
Lucy is 3 pounds...there is NOWAY she can ever go out without me taking her on a leash because I would be terrified of something getting her. Today was a beautiful day so I thought it was a good day to try to start taking Lucy out to potty. OMG....when the breeder told me she had never been taken out to potty I had NO IDEA that Lucy had NEVER been outside!!!! I can tell she has NEVER been on grass....she was terrified!!!!! She is 9 months old and NEVER been on grass!!!! So outside pottying is going to be a HUGE challenge!!! Is this doable????.....to train her to potty outside when she is terrified to be outside??? How many of you take your tiny's outside to potty?It is very doable. You will just have to be persistent. It may take some time, but she will get used to the grass and going outside. Be sure you praise and reward her.

Problem #2:
Our mudroom has always been Buddy's area. His food, his water his toys, his crate, etc.... no gate or door ...this is just his area!!! (but is was gated when he was a baby) Since we got Lucy I have had to make this her area and gate her when I cannot tend to her. (this is the only area in our house to keep her) I have moved Buddy's things to a new area. MY DH thinks this is so mean!!! But I had to move Buddy's things out because this is the ONLY place to put Lucy where she cannot get hurt when I am not around. Now I am really feeling BAD about Buddy not having his room!!! Can you get an ex pen and set it up for Lucy? Does Buddy really seem to mind that she has taken over his room??

Problem # 3
Lucy WILL NOT eat dry dog food!!!! I am FIRM believer in dry dog food. I took her to the vet yesterday after she had not eaten one bite in over 24 hours. The vet said we have to get some food in her so they gave her canned food heated in the microwave. She loved it!!! So now the only thing I can get her to eat is canned heated dog food. Sooooo I feed Buddy in one place with his dry dog food and Lucy in the gated mudroom with her heated canned food. Once again my DH says I am being so mean to Buddy. (I have to agree) Buddy just begs for her food!!! This is breaking my heart!!! Can you feed her canned with a little bit of dry in it (give it time to soften first) and then gradually add more dry and less canned??

Problem #4
Buddy has lots of toys and since getting Lucy I have bought her lots of toys too. Well, Buddy is sooooo sweet that he is not getting to play with any of his toys because Lucy has taken over!!! Again, DH says this is not right....I have to agree!!! That just tends to happen. Eventually they will work it out. Sounds like she wants to be alpha and he is letting her.

Problem #5
Buddy always sits with me in my recliner....this is his spot!!! Since getting Lucy she WILL NOT sit with anyone but me. So guess who is left out?....my sweet Buddy!!! Buddy just sits and crys in front of my chair!!! I beg him to get up here with me...I even pick him up and sit him up here but he jumps down because of Lucy. I don't know on this one, I would just try to give them equal time and take turns, I guess.

PLEASE, PLEASE help me!!!! There are so many of you out there that have multiply furbabies and I imagine you did not get them all at once. How do I juggle all this? Buddy is our pride & joy....we worship him!!! But Lucy is just a baby and she needs so much attention right now!!! (For the record my DH really loves Lucy too but he just feels bad for Buddy) I need some help FAST!!!!! I am so depressed right now!!! I love Buddy so much and all this is breaking my heart!!!!! Plus I am so worried about training Lucy to potty outside....is it possible?
Again, sorry so long....but I need HELP!!!
Congrats on the new little one. I think if you just give it time they will eventually work it out.
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my answers are in red. i know you just got her and you want to comfort her because everything is new, but you cannot forget about Buddy. he still should be number one and shouldn't feel pushed aside. when you give them treats give buddy one first. when you feed them give buddy his food first. everything should be him first, and if lucy objects you need to correct her.
I agree with EVERYTHING you said!!!!!! I just needed to hear it from someone else. Thank you sooooooo much for taking the time to help me!!!!!

I am so glad to hear that your furbaby is a tiny and goes outside to potty!!! It is going to take some time to get her use to it.

I am going to give Buddy his room back!!! I will put Lucy in the laundry room.

I am going to make Lucy start to eat her dry food by mixing it in with her canned food.

The toy issue will be handled too. It is not that Lucy takes his toys away from him its just if she gets close to him ....Buddy just drops his toy so she can play with it. Like I said, he is just so sweet to her!!! But I will encourage Buddy to hang onto his toys!!!

Buddy is going to get equal time sitting with me if not more time than Lucy. I just took Lucy to her crate. Buddy is sitting with me now!!! Ohhh...I just love him!!!!

I knew before we got Lucy that we should keep Buddy as #1 but once we got Lucy home with us....it has been much hardier than I thought. But I think I know what I need to do now.

Again, thank you so much for taking the time to advise me....I feeling so much better. The anxiety has been building and building!!!
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Rhonda, I just want to say I feel bad for all of you. Hang in there, its got to get easier! I only have one and have the yearning for a 2nd, but your troubles right now are what have me worried. (We are so blessed with Moose ~ I am afraid of another ) I will watch this closely to see what everyone suggest.
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Congrats on the new little one. I think if you just give it time they will eventually work it out.
Thank you for posting!!! It helps soooo much to hear from others!!! I truly feel that all this will works itself out but at the same time it is a lot to handle. I just LOVE Buddy so much but this new little angel girl needs lots attention right now. Again, you are such a sweetheart for offering your advise....I plan to use the advise you posted!!!!
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Rhonda, I just want to say I feel bad for all of you. Hang in there, its got to get easier! I only have one and have the yearning for a 2nd, but your troubles right now are what have me worried. (We are so blessed with Moose ~ I am afraid of another ) I will watch this closely to see what everyone suggest.
Thank you!!!! Stay tuned!!!! I know all this will get better ....I just need to give it time!!!
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I agree with EVERYTHING you said!!!!!! I just needed to hear it from someone else. Thank you sooooooo much for taking the time to help me!!!!!

I am so glad to hear that your furbaby is a tiny and goes outside to potty!!! It is going to take some time to get her use to it.

I am going to give Buddy his room back!!! I will put Lucy in the laundry room.

I am going to make Lucy start to eat her dry food by mixing it in with her canned food.

The toy issue will be handled too. It is not that Lucy takes his toys away from him its just if she gets close to him ....Buddy just drops his toy so she can play with it. Like I said, he is just so sweet to her!!! But I will encourage Buddy to hang onto his toys!!!

Buddy is going to get equal time sitting with me if not more time than Lucy. I just took Lucy to her crate. Buddy is sitting with me now!!! Ohhh...I just love him!!!!

I knew before we got Lucy that we should keep Buddy as #1 but once we got Lucy home with us....it has been much hardier than I thought. But I think I know what I need to do now.

Again, thank you so much for taking the time to advise me....I feeling so much better. The anxiety has been building and building!!!
Good luck and stick with it! Lucy just needs some guidance. as you said she never even went outside before so she probably doesn't have very good doggie manners either.
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Rhonda, Wow! With your attitude you will accomplish everything you set out to change. Isn't YT wonderful! Where else could you go and get such common-sense advice?
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Today is a new day!!!! Our day has already started better!!!! I went to bed last night thinking about all the advise that I got on here and I PRAYED so hard for help with all the problems I am having with Miss Lucy. Well, this morning I got up and decided to start immediately trying to fix all of them. First thing I did was take BOTH Lucy and Buddy outside to potty.....GUESS WHAT????? She pooped and pee'd immediately OUTSIDE!!!! (I forgot to tell you guys last night that another problem I had was that she had not pooped since we got her....soooo I was very happy to see poop especially outside) I really praised them both and gave treats to both...I slipped Buddy a couple of extra's!!! Shhhhh!!!

Next I fed Buddy his breakfast before I fed Lucy. Then I made Miss Lucy's breakfast ....I did not heat it and i mixed her dry food in with it.

Everybody seems very happy!!! Mommy feels so much better!!! I know I still have lots of work ahead of me but at least I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR SOME GREAT ADVISE!!!! My husband and I feel so much this morning!!!
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Glad to hear she went outside. When I got Pixie last year she was 13 months old and had never been outside, in a car twice and not potty trained. At first it was impossible to get her pad trained, she would go some times onthe pads and sometimes whereever she felt like. Then one day she followed my Pom outside, who is trained to go outside only and from that day on has gone outside. Now with 5 month old Roxie I am having the same problem, she uses the pads randomly no matter how I watch her, so I have started to place her outside, but no luck so far.
As far as feeding i would mix kibble withe the wet.
When I brought Pixie home, Cali's nose was out of joint for awhile but she got over it. Now when I brought Roxie home, for 2 weeks, Pixie just layed around and she was so playful with Cali and Dixie (RIP). Just 3 days ago she morphed back to herself and has been playing with the puppy a lot. So it just takes some longer to accept than others.
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Glad to hear you're already making progress!!!!

I got Angel in January, during a really cold spell. She was pee-pad trained already and I felt she was too little to be outside freezing to potty. Hubby also hated the pee-pads, but now we use the washable ones and BOTH girls have used the pee pads all winter exclusively - hubby adjusted quite well!!

If Buddy is no longer confined to the mudroom, I don't think it is a problem to gate it off for Lucy. When Angel came,k the downstairs bathroom was where she was when we went out and at night and it became Angel's domain as Sissy then had free reign of the house and slept with us.

When my girls go outside to potty in warm months, I have an x-pen set up. It was the only way I could get Angel to actually potty while outside rather than running around like a wild thang!! I'm always out there with them, but it also makes me feel a little more secure that they are contained. When we use this, they are only there for pottying purposes.

Sounds like you're on the right track with mixing kibble with Lucy's canned till she is all kibble. If you're using puppy food for her, even if Buddy wants it, it would be too many calories for him - so don't feel bad about that one!!!

For the recliner, I would continue bringing Buddy up with you and Lucy. If he chooses not to stay, he is excluding himself. Spending some time on the floor with both of them is a good idea also.
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