I need a "normal" breeder in nv ca az

[concretegurl]

Originally Posted by KazzyK810

I've noticed the hypocrisy in this too! The breeder is supposedly so concerned about a "furever" home for the puppies they are selling, but they then sell adults when they are no longer useable for breeding...so much for a furever home .

A breeder who shows is foremost concerned with the betterment of the breed and finishing (championing via show) their dogs.
However when a dog gets older they not only are tired ready to retire but need to retire where they can be fully focused on being the center of attention.
This is why retired "breeders" are petted out any good breeder doing this will be often be harsh in who they allow to adopt their previous show dog-going as far as having very strict adoption contracts sting what the dog is allowed to be fed, weather or not they will allow the dog to be vaccinated, the type of training allowed & expected, the accommodations afforded to the dog oh and a requirement of continual contact. etc etc etc.
This is how it was explained to me (by a mini. schnauzer breeder) she however doesn't charge an adoption rehoming fee you must give her a medical deposit and that fund proves you can afford any needed care you draw from it and show proof of the care provided. The way she does it takes more of her time than if she just sold off her dog-it's not about effort it's about the dog getting the best retirement as she is still busy showing other up & comers.

[betterthanlife]

Originally Posted by concretegurl

A breeder who shows is foremost concerned with the betterment of the breed and finishing (championing via show) their dogs.
However when a dog gets older they not only are tired ready to retire but need to retire where they can be fully focused on being the center of attention.
This is why retired "breeders" are petted out any good breeder doing this will be often be harsh in who they allow to adopt their previous show dog-going as far as having very strict adoption contracts sting what the dog is allowed to be fed, weather or not they will allow the dog to be vaccinated, the type of training allowed & expected, the accommodations afforded to the dog oh and a requirement of continual contact. etc etc etc.
This is how it was explained to me (by a mini. schnauzer breeder) she however doesn't charge an adoption rehoming fee you must give her a medical deposit and that fund proves you can afford any needed care you draw from it and show proof of the care provided. The way she does it takes more of her time than if she just sold off her dog-it's not about effort it's about the dog getting the best retirement as she is still busy showing other up & comers.

Thank you very much for providing more insight on that subject. I guess I could never be a show breeder. I would get too attached to the dogs, and I would have great difficulty letting them go

[concretegurl]

Originally Posted by betterthanlife

Thank you very much for providing more insight on that subject. I guess I could never be a show breeder. I would get too attached to the dogs, and I would have great difficulty letting them go

You and me both.

I wanted a beautiful girl who was being retired-but at that time I wasn't sure I could accommodate a dog that would not only be fed a RAW only diet but foremost would not be allowed any vaccines-the only change the breeder would allow was the female being altered.

Later I got a rescue and was more open-that breeder will only allow her retirees to be the only dog in the home as she insists they are absolutely pampered in retirement.

[KazzyK810]

Originally Posted by betterthanlife

Thank you very much for providing more insight on that subject. I guess I could never be a show breeder. I would get too attached to the dogs, and I would have great difficulty letting them go

Again, to me the same kind of hypocrisy. The breeder expects you to have such a strong connection to the dog that you could never rehome, but they can.

Originally Posted by concretegurl

You and me both.

I wanted a beautiful girl who was being retired-but at that time I wasn't sure I could accommodate a dog that would not only be fed a RAW only diet but foremost would not be allowed any vaccines-the only change the breeder would allow was the female being altered.

Later I got a rescue and was more open-that breeder will only allow her retirees to be the only dog in the home as she insists they are absolutely pampered in retirement.

This confirms for me that when looking for another pup this is a route I should avoid. I would never feel like the pup was MINE if I had to conform to how someone else would raise it. I'd equate it with adopting a child yet having to raise it exactly according to the biological parents instructions. I'd always feel like I was raising someone else's kid. I want my pup to be MINE. That's (in part) where the connection comes that's gonna keep my pup with me for LIFE.

[concretegurl]

Originally Posted by KazzyK810

Again, to me the same kind of hypocrisy. The breeder expects you to have such a strong connection to the dog that you could never rehome, but they can.



This confirms for me that when looking for another pup this is a route I should avoid. I would never feel like the pup was MINE if I had to conform to how someone else would raise it. I'd equate it with adopting a child yet having to raise it exactly according to the biological parents instructions. I'd always feel like I was raising someone else's kid. I want my pup to be MINE. That's (in part) where the connection comes that's gonna keep my pup with me for LIFE.

It wasn't a puppy-

I could buy a puppy from her-limited registration spay/neuter contract the only requirements from her thus feed it whatever I wanted, vaccinate how I please-this pup would not have been show or breeding quality, not come to me fully trained.

I was looking at a retired championed female 4 almost 5 years old.

[betterthanlife]

As I was driving around today, I was trying to view this from a different perspective - I was thinking that maybe I was attributing a role to the "SHOW" breeder, that was not fitting. Maybe their "larger" goal - betterment of the breed - is not about "attachment" to any one dog. It takes different personalities to fulfill different roles. Maybe they fulfill their role, and then people that get more "attached" - apparently some of us on this thread, come in and fulfill the much needed role, of buying and loving the puppies that can't make the "show" cut, and the champs that need a home in retirement..........We all are so different. It hit me today, that maybe I was wanting them to be like me.

[cricut_craze]

I found a breeder in SoCal who is pretty great in my opinion. Her website is: thedecadentdogs.com

Good luck

[ndyorkiemom]

Originally Posted by KazzyK810

I've noticed the hypocrisy in this too! The breeder is supposedly so concerned about a "furever" home for the puppies they are selling, but they then sell adults when they are no longer useable for breeding...so much for a furever home .

I have only ever rehomed two of my Yorkies and then that was to a very dear friend where I get to see them whenever I want to and get up dated pictures and stories about them at least every other week if not more.
I can understand why some breeders rehome some of thier retired Yorkies though. Many of those that I know have multiple Yorkies and when an older Yorkie is retired many times they (the breeders) are just wanting the older dog to have a lap of thier own where they will get the attention they deserve without having to compete for attention. I wish you all the luck there is in finding your little girl. But, please understand that finding a little girl might be a hard thing to do since many show breeders will want to keep the females themselves. The right baby will come along you just need to keep looking.

[Yorkiedaze]

Originally Posted by betterthanlife

I am looking for a puppy and I have been dealing with so-called "reputable" show-breeders, and quite honestly, I feel many of them are personality disordered, arrogant and defensive. I was researching a lady who I was almost ready to buy from, and I found a horrible thread about her on this site. I am so upset about this.

It is hard finding a dog having to deal with people. I thought I would go to the "best," to make sure the dog is healthy etc.

Too many details to share here. I just want a breeder that is not going to be put off by the correct questions, and is open about their dogs, practices, etc.

I am losing hope

I am looking for a small healthy female yorkie. Can anyone help?

Try this site: American Kennel Club - Breeder Referral Search

[TxVicki]

Originally Posted by ndyorkiemom

I have only ever rehomed two of my Yorkies and then that was to a very dear friend where I get to see them whenever I want to and get up dated pictures and stories about them at least every other week if not more.
I can understand why some breeders rehome some of thier retired Yorkies though. Many of those that I know have multiple Yorkies and when an older Yorkie is retired many times they (the breeders) are just wanting the older dog to have a lap of thier own where they will get the attention they deserve without having to compete for attention. I wish you all the luck there is in finding your little girl. But, please understand that finding a little girl might be a hard thing to do since many show breeders will want to keep the females themselves. The right baby will come along you just need to keep looking.

My Willow we adopted last November, was a breeder/retired and her breeder turned over to a rescue group to find a good home for her.
I adopted her. She is the most sweet loving little girl.

[yorkiedallas]

I don't have any experience with breeders, I only adopt from shelters or rescues, but I liked what that one person said about your perfect dog finding you when it was meant to be. I wasn't really looking for a dog, I came across Dallas on a shelter website and before I knew it I was owned by a yorkie. It will happen, keep your chin up!

[concretegurl]

Originally Posted by ndyorkiemom

I have only ever rehomed two of my Yorkies and then that was to a very dear friend where I get to see them whenever I want to and get up dated pictures and stories about them at least every other week if not more.
I can understand why some breeders rehome some of thier retired Yorkies though. Many of those that I know have multiple Yorkies and when an older Yorkie is retired many times they (the breeders) are just wanting the older dog to have a lap of thier own where they will get the attention they deserve without having to compete for attention. I wish you all the luck there is in finding your little girl. But, please understand that finding a little girl might be a hard thing to do since many show breeders will want to keep the females themselves. The right baby will come along you just need to keep looking.

"when an older Yorkie is retired many times they (the breeders) are just wanting the older dog to have a lap of their own where they will get the attention they deserve without having to compete for attention."