BRENY AKA Greens Treasured Yorkshire Terriers

[Jaxx]

Congratulations on your beautiful new puppy

[T Doll]

Congrats on your new baby - he is adorable! Breny seems to be a great breeder, however, I've sort of had a bad experience with her in the past that I really want to share and put out there as well. It wasn't about any of her puppies, but rather about her way of dealing with prospective buyers.

Back in 2007, I posted a thread about looking for a new puppy. Breny contacted ME and offered to sell me a male from her recent litter. We conversed back and forth, and since I'm in Canada and she is in the US, I had to research my options about getting the puppy across the border. After I renewed my passport (we talked about driving and meeting up at the border), I sent Breny a PM to let her know that my passport was renewed, so we could go ahead with the purchase/adoption. She then responded back telling me that someone else had already put a deposit on the boy, so he was already sold!

The entire time that we were communicating (without ANY breaks), she never mentioned ANYTHING about a deposit. I was under the impression that once I found out more information about the border/passport situation, that we would go ahead with a deposit and payment arrangements. Had she have asked me for a deposit earlier, I would've put one down. Isn't the breeder supposed to be the one who asks for a deposit? I didn't think the proper protocol was for the buyer to out right offer one first

I had no idea that she was discussing the sale of this boy with another prospective buyer (she mentioned nothing of the sort). At no point during our conversations, did I ever give her the impression that I might not be interested, so I just don't understand why she would go ahead and accept a deposit from someone else. It was like she sold him from right under my nose One day we were discussing arrangements of how/where I would pick up the puppy, and then the very next day she says "I'm so sorry, he's already been sold"!

I thought this was very unprofessional and I was extremely sad (and shocked) to hear that she already sold him. She really got my hopes up...my heart sank when I found out he was already sold. I just wish that Breny had been more professional about her dealings. She could've easily let me know that there was another prospective buyer, or she could've asked me to put down a deposit on the boy.

Fortunately, in the end it all worked out, since I ended up getting an amazing little boy from another wonderful YT breeder. I don't mean for this post to bash Breny in any way, and I believe that she is a reputable breeder with quality puppies. I just hope she realizes that the way she went about with the whole dealing, was very wrong and unprofessional. It was like she strung me along and then suddenly shut the door in my face. I don't know if this was an isolated incident or not, but I hope no one else has had this kind of dealing with her and had to feel the way I did.

Breny, if this is how you normally deal with prospective buyers, please, please consider taking a better approach. Let people know if there are other prospective buyers and let them know when a deposit is required. And to anyone looking to buy a puppy from Breny, I would advise you to inquire about any other prospective buyers and also ask about a deposit as soon as you can, if there is a puppy that you have your heart set on.

I really hope I don't get any backlash from this post I know that people can tend to be a little biased when it comes to respected members of the forum. Please look at this post/feedback the same way you would if somebody was writing a review of a breeder outside of the forum. I know I personally appreciate all reviews, be it good or bad. I hope this post serves more as constructive criticism, rather than negative "bashing" of any sort

[Teresamag]

I respect your opinion and I don't know Breny personally (although I have admired her dogs) but I just have to say that Breny is someone who has always seemed to me to be a very ethical breeder. Sometimes we don't know all the details here on Yorkie Talk but a few things occurred to me.
#1 maybe Breny wasn't aware you were ready to make a commitment. Sometimes breeders have lots of people who call and talk but just never make it to the "sticking point" of adopting a puppy.
#2 a lot of breeders will take a deposit on a puppy to hold the puppy for you but only if they know for sure you will be a great home and that you are ready to make a commitment. Maybe Breny wasn't sure you were ready? and
#3 sometimes breeders don't tell you that you need to leave a deposit because they don't want to seem "pushy". I've heard people complain about breeders telling them that other people were interested in the same puppy and they thought it was a selling tactic trying to make them buy the puppy first. I believe she has a statement on her website telling people that she does not hold a puppy for anyone without a deposit and her puppy application must be filled out. If this wasn't the case when you were speaking for her it appears she has made changes so this misunderstanding doesn't happen again.
Again, I'm sorry you were disappointed in your dealings with Breny. I've always had the highest opinion of her and would not hesitate to adopt a dog from her if I was looking for another puppy. I'm very glad you found the Yorkie puppy you were looking for.

Teresa

[SoSoNYC1]

Hi, No comment about your incident with Breny since I never really bought a puppy from her but she is a nice lady. She does have beautiful pups.

All I know is I am extremely lucky finding my biewer breeder. She held my dog without a deposit for 5 days and during this time she was getting contacted for the dog but she PROMISED me to hold her for me.

She's coming to me next Friday. Check her out..

=)

God is good!

[T Doll]

Originally Posted by Teresamag

I respect your opinion and I don't know Breny personally (although I have admired her dogs) but I just have to say that Breny is someone who has always seemed to me to be a very ethical breeder. Sometimes we don't know all the details here on Yorkie Talk but a few things occurred to me.
#1 maybe Breny wasn't aware you were ready to make a commitment. Sometimes breeders have lots of people who call and talk but just never make it to the "sticking point" of adopting a puppy.
#2 a lot of breeders will take a deposit on a puppy to hold the puppy for you but only if they know for sure you will be a great home and that you are ready to make a commitment. Maybe Breny wasn't sure you were ready? and
#3 sometimes breeders don't tell you that you need to leave a deposit because they don't want to seem "pushy". I've heard people complain about breeders telling them that other people were interested in the same puppy and they thought it was a selling tactic trying to make them buy the puppy first. I believe she has a statement on her website telling people that she does not hold a puppy for anyone without a deposit and her puppy application must be filled out. If this wasn't the case when you were speaking for her it appears she has made changes so this misunderstanding doesn't happen again.
Again, I'm sorry you were disappointed in your dealings with Breny. I've always had the highest opinion of her and would not hesitate to adopt a dog from her if I was looking for another puppy. I'm very glad you found the Yorkie puppy you were looking for.

Teresa

I understand the points you are making here. Although, personally, I would have to disagree with the statement at #1, as I don't believe it to be accurate in my particular situation. Of course, since you couldn't have known the specifics of the situation, I completely understand why you suggest that this might have been the case. From our conversations, I made it quite clear that I was interested in the puppy. The only thing I had left to do, was look up some information about getting the puppy across the border. I even talked to her about getting my passport renewed, just in case I needed one to cross the border (I believe it is now a requirement, but back then it wasn't, and I wasn't sure when the new rule was going into effect). So at this point, I believe I showed my commitment and it was no longer just general talk/chat about a possible adoption. I didn't flat out tell her that I was 100% adopting the puppy, only because I didn't have information about the border/passport situation yet. She knew this, and was just waiting for me to get back to her with the information.

As for your statement on #2; if she thought I wasn't ready to make a commitment, or didn't think I was suitable for one of her pups, don't you think she could've said something and let me know? She was waiting for me to get back to her about the border/passport situation, and then right when I did (there was also no delay in this, I got back to her right away), she informed me that the pup was already sold.

Now for your statement about #3, this is completely understandable. However, in my defense, we were talking back and forth for quite some time. I can see how it might be pushy to ask for a deposit early on in the dealings, or when the buyer seems a bit hesitant. But I believe I showed my commitment, and it was fair time that she could've asked for a deposit without seeming pushy (or that it was a sales tactic).

I think you may have misinterpreted my post? I never once mentioned anything about her being an unethical breeder. I even stated that I think she is a reputable breeder with quality dogs. I just didn't agree with her method of dealing with prospective buyers and thought it was rather unfair. I also mentioned that I didn't know whether or not it was an isolated incident. It very well could've been, but I have no way of knowing.

I have no ill feelings toward Breny, and I'm actually happy that things turned out the way did, as I couldn't imagine my life without the little furbaby that I have now. I'm not telling people be weary of getting a puppy from her, and I've said nothing bad about any of her pups or breeding practices. I was simply trying to offer some advice to Breny and her potential buyers, so that someone else doesn't get their hopes up like I did.

[T Doll]

Originally Posted by SoSoNYC1

Hi, No comment about your incident with Breny since I never really bought a puppy from her but she is a nice lady. She does have beautiful pups.

All I know is I am extremely lucky finding my biewer breeder. She held my dog without a deposit for 5 days and during this time she was getting contacted for the dog but she PROMISED me to hold her for me.

She's coming to me next Friday. Check her out..

=)

God is good!

Aww she is precious!! You must be sooo excited for her to come home That was very nice of Breny to do that for you. It seems like my case might have been an isolated incident? Either way though, I'm glad to hear that her methods have changed Congrats on the new addition to your family!

[Buster Brown]

Originally Posted by SoSoNYC1

Hi, No comment about your incident with Breny since I never really bought a puppy from her but she is a nice lady. She does have beautiful pups.

All I know is I am extremely lucky finding my biewer breeder. She held my dog without a deposit for 5 days and during this time she was getting contacted for the dog but she PROMISED me to hold her for me.

She's coming to me next Friday. Check her out..

=)

God is good!

She is a beauty congratulations! I have Biewer puppy envy! I hope to get one as my next family member down the road. Have a wonderful time with your new baby.

[viviansnickers]

Originally Posted by T Doll

Congrats on your new baby - he is adorable! Breny seems to be a great breeder, however, I've sort of had a bad experience with her in the past that I really want to share and put out there as well. It wasn't about any of her puppies, but rather about her way of dealing with prospective buyers.

Back in 2007, I posted a thread about looking for a new puppy. Breny contacted ME and offered to sell me a male from her recent litter. We conversed back and forth, and since I'm in Canada and she is in the US, I had to research my options about getting the puppy across the border. After I renewed my passport (we talked about driving and meeting up at the border), I sent Breny a PM to let her know that my passport was renewed, so we could go ahead with the purchase/adoption. She then responded back telling me that someone else had already put a deposit on the boy, so he was already sold!

The entire time that we were communicating (without ANY breaks), she never mentioned ANYTHING about a deposit. I was under the impression that once I found out more information about the border/passport situation, that we would go ahead with a deposit and payment arrangements. Had she have asked me for a deposit earlier, I would've put one down. Isn't the breeder supposed to be the one who asks for a deposit? I didn't think the proper protocol was for the buyer to out right offer one first

I had no idea that she was discussing the sale of this boy with another prospective buyer (she mentioned nothing of the sort). At no point during our conversations, did I ever give her the impression that I might not be interested, so I just don't understand why she would go ahead and accept a deposit from someone else. It was like she sold him from right under my nose One day we were discussing arrangements of how/where I would pick up the puppy, and then the very next day she says "I'm so sorry, he's already been sold"!

I thought this was very unprofessional and I was extremely sad (and shocked) to hear that she already sold him. She really got my hopes up...my heart sank when I found out he was already sold. I just wish that Breny had been more professional about her dealings. She could've easily let me know that there was another prospective buyer, or she could've asked me to put down a deposit on the boy.

Fortunately, in the end it all worked out, since I ended up getting an amazing little boy from another wonderful YT breeder. I don't mean for this post to bash Breny in any way, and I believe that she is a reputable breeder with quality puppies. I just hope she realizes that the way she went about with the whole dealing, was very wrong and unprofessional. It was like she strung me along and then suddenly shut the door in my face. I don't know if this was an isolated incident or not, but I hope no one else has had this kind of dealing with her and had to feel the way I did.

Breny, if this is how you normally deal with prospective buyers, please, please consider taking a better approach. Let people know if there are other prospective buyers and let them know when a deposit is required. And to anyone looking to buy a puppy from Breny, I would advise you to inquire about any other prospective buyers and also ask about a deposit as soon as you can, if there is a puppy that you have your heart set on.

I really hope I don't get any backlash from this post I know that people can tend to be a little biased when it comes to respected members of the forum. Please look at this post/feedback the same way you would if somebody was writing a review of a breeder outside of the forum. I know I personally appreciate all reviews, be it good or bad. I hope this post serves more as constructive criticism, rather than negative "bashing" of any sort

Sorry this happened to you. Breeders & potential owners are bound to run into some negative situations at some point, heck I bought Snickers from PETLAND b/c I didn't know any better, and if Petland was on this site, I would have words for them too. Glad to hear you got the Yorkie of your dreams. Reesie is my little TASMANIAN DEVIL!!! LOLLLL!!!!

Viv

[kpstoybox]

Originally Posted by Teresamag

I respect your opinion and I don't know Breny personally (although I have admired her dogs) but I just have to say that Breny is someone who has always seemed to me to be a very ethical breeder. Sometimes we don't know all the details here on Yorkie Talk but a few things occurred to me.
#1 maybe Breny wasn't aware you were ready to make a commitment. Sometimes breeders have lots of people who call and talk but just never make it to the "sticking point" of adopting a puppy.
#2 a lot of breeders will take a deposit on a puppy to hold the puppy for you but only if they know for sure you will be a great home and that you are ready to make a commitment. Maybe Breny wasn't sure you were ready? and
#3 sometimes breeders don't tell you that you need to leave a deposit because they don't want to seem "pushy". I've heard people complain about breeders telling them that other people were interested in the same puppy and they thought it was a selling tactic trying to make them buy the puppy first. I believe she has a statement on her website telling people that she does not hold a puppy for anyone without a deposit and her puppy application must be filled out. If this wasn't the case when you were speaking for her it appears she has made changes so this misunderstanding doesn't happen again.
Again, I'm sorry you were disappointed in your dealings with Breny. I've always had the highest opinion of her and would not hesitate to adopt a dog from her if I was looking for another puppy. I'm very glad you found the Yorkie puppy you were looking for.

Teresa

This is so true Teresa. Maybe Breny had two or three people interested in the same puppy...and went with the home she thought would be a better placement for that particular puppy before accepting a deposit on him? Just looking at it from a breeders perspective.

[T Doll]

Originally Posted by kpstoybox

This is so true Teresa. Maybe Breny had two or three people interested in the same puppy...and went with the home she thought would be a better placement for that particular puppy before accepting a deposit on him? Just looking at it from a breeders perspective.

This is true....however, she could've easily just told me so, instead of dealing with me the whole way through and then suddenly flip the switch like that. At no point whatsoever, did she mention anything about finding a better placement for the puppy. She went straight from waiting for me to reply with an answer about border/passport rules, to suddenly informing me that the puppy was already sold.

It's good that you were trying to see this from the breeder's perspective, but I think you should also consider the buyer's perspective as well. How would you feel if this same thing had happened to you? You have your heart set on a puppy that you're planning to get (and just need to find out some important information to seal the deal), and then you're completely blindsided to hear that it's been given to someone else. It seems like some people may be biased (which I expected), since Breny is a respected breeder/member on here. I really believe that if this situation occurred with a breeder outside of the forum (who people weren't familiar with), then they might consider both sides of the coin here.

[T Doll]

Originally Posted by viviansnickers

Sorry this happened to you. Breeders & potential owners are bound to run into some negative situations at some point, heck I bought Snickers from PETLAND b/c I didn't know any better, and if Petland was on this site, I would have words for them too. Glad to hear you got the Yorkie of your dreams. Reesie is my little TASMANIAN DEVIL!!! LOLLLL!!!!

Viv

Both of your babies are just darling! Sorry that you had to deal with shady Petland. We all live and learn, right? Your "Tasmanian devil" looks so innocent! LOL

[SoSoNYC1]

T Doll: Actually I didn't get my biewer from Breny. I got my dog from someone else. =)

[SoSoNYC1]

Buster Brown: Thank you for your sweet comment. My biewer girl, Chelsea York comes to me next Friday! Yippie!!

[viviansnickers]

Must acknowledge that me using Petland as my example of a negative situation as a pet owner in NO WAY has any correlation to how Breny handles things. My example was a mere statement saying people in the pet owner or breeder situation can and most likely will run into negative situations. I was a complete idiot when I got my 1st yorkie and had no idea about Petland and out of lack of knowledge, bought Snickers from there. So my negative situation came from my own STUPIDY!!!! Breny is a FABULOUS breeder and that's why I got my incredible Reesie from her after much research and meeting her. She is LOVES her babies and places them in perfect homes SHE feels are appropriate.

Thank you-
Vivian

[T Doll]

Originally Posted by SoSoNYC1

T Doll: Actually I didn't get my biewer from Breny. I got my dog from someone else. =)

Oops, I see that I've read your post wrong This actually makes more sense now lol. I was taken by surprise when I heard (well, thought I heard) that Breny would do that for you, considering what happened with my situation. Your breeder sounds wonderful! Did you find her here on YT?