BRENY AKA Greens Treasured Yorkshire Terriers

[LuvMySissy]

Originally Posted by T Doll

The entire time that we were communicating (without ANY breaks), she never mentioned ANYTHING about a deposit. I was under the impression that once I found out more information about the border/passport situation, that we would go ahead with a deposit and payment arrangements. Had she have asked me for a deposit earlier, I would've put one down. Isn't the breeder supposed to be the one who asks for a deposit? I didn't think the proper protocol was for the buyer to out right offer one first

I had no idea that she was discussing the sale of this boy with another prospective buyer (she mentioned nothing of the sort). At no point during our conversations, did I ever give her the impression that I might not be interested, so I just don't understand why she would go ahead and accept a deposit from someone else. It was like she sold him from right under my nose One day we were discussing arrangements of how/where I would pick up the puppy, and then the very next day she says "I'm so sorry, he's already been sold"!

I'm really sorry you took offense that Brenda sold her pup to what she felt was the best potential home. I personally know of many breeders who will talk with several prospective buyers and even take a deposit on a pup - yet if another comes along whom they feel is a better home for their pup, they will refund a deposit and sell to the other home. IMHO I feel this makes her a breeder who very much cares about where her pups go than just getting the almightly $ and I would rather buy from someone like this.

I can't help but feel you are posting this for the sake of drama since this happened in 2007 and Breny has sold several pups here and other places since then.

[BaxtersMommy]

Originally Posted by T Doll

Congrats on your new baby - he is adorable! Breny seems to be a great breeder, however, I've sort of had a bad experience with her in the past that I really want to share and put out there as well. It wasn't about any of her puppies, but rather about her way of dealing with prospective buyers.

Back in 2007, I posted a thread about looking for a new puppy. Breny contacted ME and offered to sell me a male from her recent litter. We conversed back and forth, and since I'm in Canada and she is in the US, I had to research my options about getting the puppy across the border. After I renewed my passport (we talked about driving and meeting up at the border), I sent Breny a PM to let her know that my passport was renewed, so we could go ahead with the purchase/adoption. She then responded back telling me that someone else had already put a deposit on the boy, so he was already sold!

The entire time that we were communicating (without ANY breaks), she never mentioned ANYTHING about a deposit. I was under the impression that once I found out more information about the border/passport situation, that we would go ahead with a deposit and payment arrangements. Had she have asked me for a deposit earlier, I would've put one down. Isn't the breeder supposed to be the one who asks for a deposit? I didn't think the proper protocol was for the buyer to out right offer one first

I had no idea that she was discussing the sale of this boy with another prospective buyer (she mentioned nothing of the sort). At no point during our conversations, did I ever give her the impression that I might not be interested, so I just don't understand why she would go ahead and accept a deposit from someone else. It was like she sold him from right under my nose One day we were discussing arrangements of how/where I would pick up the puppy, and then the very next day she says "I'm so sorry, he's already been sold"!

I thought this was very unprofessional and I was extremely sad (and shocked) to hear that she already sold him. She really got my hopes up...my heart sank when I found out he was already sold. I just wish that Breny had been more professional about her dealings. She could've easily let me know that there was another prospective buyer, or she could've asked me to put down a deposit on the boy.

Fortunately, in the end it all worked out, since I ended up getting an amazing little boy from another wonderful YT breeder. I don't mean for this post to bash Breny in any way, and I believe that she is a reputable breeder with quality puppies. I just hope she realizes that the way she went about with the whole dealing, was very wrong and unprofessional. It was like she strung me along and then suddenly shut the door in my face. I don't know if this was an isolated incident or not, but I hope no one else has had this kind of dealing with her and had to feel the way I did.

Breny, if this is how you normally deal with prospective buyers, please, please consider taking a better approach. Let people know if there are other prospective buyers and let them know when a deposit is required. And to anyone looking to buy a puppy from Breny, I would advise you to inquire about any other prospective buyers and also ask about a deposit as soon as you can, if there is a puppy that you have your heart set on.

I really hope I don't get any backlash from this post I know that people can tend to be a little biased when it comes to respected members of the forum. Please look at this post/feedback the same way you would if somebody was writing a review of a breeder outside of the forum. I know I personally appreciate all reviews, be it good or bad. I hope this post serves more as constructive criticism, rather than negative "bashing" of any sort

You say you dont mean to bash but that is exactly what you have done on this review thread. This was in 2007 and you are just now sharing your experience? What is your point? I think you should have had a conversation with Breny back in 2007. I am sure there was a break down in communication. I am most certain she would never intend to break your heart by leading you to a purchase that wasn't going to happen. Why didnt you post a review back in 2007? I dont understand why you would come on a positive review and reference something 4 years ago. Pretty sure I am not the only who would question your motive.

[T Doll]

Originally Posted by BaxtersMommy

You say you dont mean to bash but that is exactly what you have done on this review thread. This was in 2007 and you are just now sharing your experience? What is your point? I think you should have had a conversation with Breny back in 2007. I am sure there was a break down in communication. I am most certain she would never intend to break your heart by leading you to a purchase that wasn't going to happen. Why didnt you post a review back in 2007? I dont understand why you would come on a positive review and reference something 4 years ago. Pretty sure I am not the only who would question your motive.

Wow, I've heard from several people that these boards have gone sour and everyone seems to be a lot meaner and judgmental, and they are sure right!! You don't know know the whole situation, so you really have no right to judge me and question my "motive" for posting. I didn't publicly bring it up back then, as I was pretty new to YT and wanted to avoid any drama. I didn't think anyone would hear me out, since I had just joined and Breny was a member for quite some time.

I left YT for a couple years and just recently started to get back into the forums again. I saw this thread, and thought it was about time to share my own experience. I didn't realize that people would be so extremely biased and judgmental about it. Now I remember why I took a hiatus from this forum. I remember reading many posts/threads where newbies would get run off by mean/rude/judgmental comments from people. It left a sour taste in their mouths and they left YT because of it.

I thought I'd come back and give the forums another chance, but I guess nothing has changed. I happily donated to this forum (only forum I've ever donated to), and to get such rude and judgmental comments that are completely unwarranted, now makes me wish I never joined this site. Thank you for your snappy comments and judgments....you must be really proud of your ability to bring people down - you sure are great at it!

[BaxtersMommy]

Originally Posted by T Doll

Wow, I've heard from several people that these boards have gone sour and everyone seems to be a lot meaner and judgmental, and they are sure right!! You don't know know the whole situation, so you really have no right to judge me and question my "motive" for posting. I didn't publicly bring it up back then, as I was pretty new to YT and wanted to avoid any drama. I didn't think anyone would hear me out, since I had just joined and Breny was a member for quite some time.

I left YT for a couple years and just recently started to get back into the forums again. I saw this thread, and thought it was about time to share my own experience. I didn't realize that people would be so extremely biased and judgmental about it. Now I remember why I took a hiatus from this forum. I remember reading many posts/threads where newbies would get run off by mean/rude/judgmental comments from people. It left a sour taste in their mouths and they left YT because of it.

I thought I'd come back and give the forums another chance, but I guess nothing has changed. I happily donated to this forum (only forum I've ever donated to), and to get such rude and judgmental comments that are completely unwarranted, now makes me wish I never joined this site. Thank you for your snappy comments and judgments....you must be really proud of your ability to bring people down - you sure are great at it!

you thought that was rude? wow, you really need to scroll thru some threads if you thought that was mean. LOL I just asked your motive because MANY people here have them when they post as such. It is odd that you would make these statements on a positive happy review instead of creating your own. You made a judgement against Breny and it could have been something as simple as she found what she thought was a better home for her puppy and that doesnt make Breny a bad person. Sorry if you thought I was rude, I was just trying to make sense of your posts.

[viviansnickers]

This thread was intended to praise breny as a breeder not debate on things about her or decisions she had made. So anyone reading this can remember that she is fantastic!!!!!!

Thanks-
Viv

[Schooby]

I'm sorry T Doll, but I just cannot picture Breny doing what you claim she did. I have gotten both my boys from her, Chase in 2009, and Calvin just last year. I have talked to her at least once a month since I brought home Chase, and my boyfriend and I talked with her for 2-3 hours when we picked up Chase, and another 2-3 hours when we picked up Calvin. I send her pics and updates of the boys, and if I forget, she asks about them.

She is the most caring person, and screens her puppies homes extensivly. She picked the right pups for us, and I cannot imagine my life without my boys. She is not pushy at all and would never ask someone to place a deposit on a puppy since it's up to the buyer if they want the puppy or not. She is the last person that would try to sell a puppy to just any home. You need to prove to her that you are serious and want the puppy. Once you were approved for a puppy, you should have placed a deposit right away.
Please don't think I am "bashing" you or anything, I feel since I personally know Brenda, I should be able to give my opinion.

[viviansnickers]

Originally Posted by T Doll

Wow, I've heard from several people that these boards have gone sour and everyone seems to be a lot meaner and judgmental, and they are sure right!! You don't know know the whole situation, so you really have no right to judge me and question my "motive" for posting. I didn't publicly bring it up back then, as I was pretty new to YT and wanted to avoid any drama. I didn't think anyone would hear me out, since I had just joined and Breny was a member for quite some time.

I left YT for a couple years and just recently started to get back into the forums again. I saw this thread, and thought it was about time to share my own experience. I didn't realize that people would be so extremely biased and judgmental about it. Now I remember why I took a hiatus from this forum. I remember reading many posts/threads where newbies would get run off by mean/rude/judgmental comments from people. It left a sour taste in their mouths and they left YT because of it.

I thought I'd come back and give the forums another chance, but I guess nothing has changed. I happily donated to this forum (only forum I've ever donated to), and to get such rude and judgmental comments that are completely unwarranted, now makes me wish I never joined this site. Thank you for your snappy comments and judgments....you must be really proud of your ability to bring people down - you sure are great at it!

Did you really think that by posting your experience on a thread intending to only praise Breny would not bring debate???? You're going against what I started the thread for.

Hpmh--
Viv

[T Doll]

Originally Posted by BaxtersMommy

you thought that was rude? wow, you really need to scroll thru some threads if you thought that was mean. LOL I just asked your motive because MANY people here have them when they post as such. It is odd that you would make these statements on a positive happy review instead of creating your own. You made a judgement against Breny and it could have been something as simple as she found what she thought was a better home for her puppy and that doesnt make Breny a bad person. Sorry if you thought I was rude, I was just trying to make sense of your posts.

If someone said to you, the same thing that you said to me...you wouldn't take offense to that? I don't exactly appreciate people accusing me of having some motives that I never had. And what might seems "odd" to you, might make perfect sense to others. So just because you thought it was odd/suspicious that I posted my feelings in this particular thread (instead of making my own), doesn't mean that guilty of what you're accusing me of.

First of all, I didn't think that expressing my feelings in someone else's thread was a no-no? I didn't make my own thread about it because I didn't want to have a "negative" review dedicated towards her. I didn't believe it was necessary to have an entire thread about it. And could you imagine if I had made up my own thread about this? People would've jumped all over me, coming to the defense of their precious Breny. Heaven forbid anyone say anything that was less than positive, about her. I guarantee that if this situation happened with anyone else (outside of YT and not a known member on here), people wouldn't be so quick to jump to her defense.

I never made a judgment against Breny, I used facts and comments from what happened, and interpreted them accordingly. You guys, on the other hand, just assume that she was simply trying to place the puppy in a better suited home. Do you actually know that? No. Being that I was the one in the situation and know the specifics, I'm 100% certain that wasn't the case. She even said to me that shes reserves the puppy to the first person that gives her a deposit. That doesn't sound like she thought I wasn't suitable for her pup? And she was the one who came to ME, offering ME one of her puppies. I did not initially come to her.

I don't understand why everyone is so offended that I post my thoughts in "this" thread. Just because it's a positive review thread, I have to completely agree with it in order to post? What if somebody came on here posting a "positive review" on that horrible breeder of yorkiepup.com? Would people not be allowed to chime in and give their thoughts - be it good or bad? The point is, nobody is perfect. Good reviews come with bad reviews, and vice versa.

[T Doll]

Originally Posted by viviansnickers

Did you really think that by posting your experience on a thread intending to only praise Breny would not bring debate???? You're going against what I started the thread for.

Hpmh--
Viv

No, I did not think it would bring up a debate, let alone this kind of drama. I thought that people would just take it for what it was. I was entitled to my opinion, as everyone else is to theirs. It only became "drama" when people interpreted and responded to it as such. I didn't come on here saying "Oh no, this breeder is bad news, stay away!" I gave POSITIVE thoughts along with my one negative opinion. Why is everyone so focused on the negative?? Good reviews come with bad reviews, and vice versa. What I've said about her doesn't make her a terrible breeder (I never even implied that), but for some reason, that's how everyone is interpreting it

[viviansnickers]

I don't understand why everyone is so offended that I post my thoughts in "this" thread. Just because it's a positive review thread, I have to completely agree with it in order to post? What if somebody came on here posting a "positive review" on that horrible breeder of yorkiepup.com? Would people not be allowed to chime in and give their thoughts - be it good or bad? The point is, nobody is perfect. Good reviews come with bad reviews, and vice versa.[/QUOTE]

Are you serious?? You are now comparing praise Breny a MEMBER of YT who obviously is adored on here by many to potential praise of yorkiepup.com who is a BYB!!!!!???????? People would attack that thread with oodles of negativity b/c that breeder is a BYB, BRENY IS NOT ANYWHERE IN THE REALM OF THE SAME CATEGORY so you can't compare.

That is IMHO opinion is crossing the line. NOT APPRECIATED and I made the same mistake of saying PETLAND and Breny in the same sentence and corrected myself. If I came on here and praised PETLAND and people brought negative experiences to add, I would understand as it is a WARNING for others to read b/c SOOOOOO many people have had horrific experiences. Same with yorkiepup.com BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE HERE!! Please compare apples to apples!!!!!!

BLAH-
Vivian

[TammyJM]

Originally Posted by T Doll

Congrats on your new baby - he is adorable! Breny seems to be a great breeder, however, I've sort of had a bad experience with her in the past that I really want to share and put out there as well. It wasn't about any of her puppies, but rather about her way of dealing with prospective buyers.

Back in 2007, I posted a thread about looking for a new puppy. Breny contacted ME and offered to sell me a male from her recent litter. We conversed back and forth, and since I'm in Canada and she is in the US, I had to research my options about getting the puppy across the border. After I renewed my passport (we talked about driving and meeting up at the border), I sent Breny a PM to let her know that my passport was renewed, so we could go ahead with the purchase/adoption. She then responded back telling me that someone else had already put a deposit on the boy, so he was already sold!

The entire time that we were communicating (without ANY breaks), she never mentioned ANYTHING about a deposit. I was under the impression that once I found out more information about the border/passport situation, that we would go ahead with a deposit and payment arrangements. Had she have asked me for a deposit earlier, I would've put one down. Isn't the breeder supposed to be the one who asks for a deposit? I didn't think the proper protocol was for the buyer to out right offer one first

I had no idea that she was discussing the sale of this boy with another prospective buyer (she mentioned nothing of the sort). At no point during our conversations, did I ever give her the impression that I might not be interested, so I just don't understand why she would go ahead and accept a deposit from someone else. It was like she sold him from right under my nose One day we were discussing arrangements of how/where I would pick up the puppy, and then the very next day she says "I'm so sorry, he's already been sold"!

I thought this was very unprofessional and I was extremely sad (and shocked) to hear that she already sold him. She really got my hopes up...my heart sank when I found out he was already sold. I just wish that Breny had been more professional about her dealings. She could've easily let me know that there was another prospective buyer, or she could've asked me to put down a deposit on the boy.

Fortunately, in the end it all worked out, since I ended up getting an amazing little boy from another wonderful YT breeder. I don't mean for this post to bash Breny in any way, and I believe that she is a reputable breeder with quality puppies. I just hope she realizes that the way she went about with the whole dealing, was very wrong and unprofessional. It was like she strung me along and then suddenly shut the door in my face. I don't know if this was an isolated incident or not, but I hope no one else has had this kind of dealing with her and had to feel the way I did.

Breny, if this is how you normally deal with prospective buyers, please, please consider taking a better approach. Let people know if there are other prospective buyers and let them know when a deposit is required. And to anyone looking to buy a puppy from Breny, I would advise you to inquire about any other prospective buyers and also ask about a deposit as soon as you can, if there is a puppy that you have your heart set on.

I really hope I don't get any backlash from this post I know that people can tend to be a little biased when it comes to respected members of the forum. Please look at this post/feedback the same way you would if somebody was writing a review of a breeder outside of the forum. I know I personally appreciate all reviews, be it good or bad. I hope this post serves more as constructive criticism, rather than negative "bashing" of any sort

I'm sorry this happened...I'm sure it was very disappointing.

[spiritwings1202]

Originally Posted by viviansnickers

This thread was intended to praise breny as a breeder not debate on things about her or decisions she had made. So anyone reading this can remember that she is fantastic!!!!!!

Thanks-
Viv

I hate it when a good thread gets turned around to negativity!! Good for you on your thread!! why do they have to stray from the original positive post?
My Mom always said if you don't have anything nice to say......

DON"T say anything at all!!

[kpstoybox]

Originally Posted by T Doll

The entire time that we were communicating (without ANY breaks), she never mentioned ANYTHING about a deposit. I was under the impression that once I found out more information about the border/passport situation, that we would go ahead with a deposit and payment arrangements. Had she have asked me for a deposit earlier, I would've put one down. Isn't the breeder supposed to be the one who asks for a deposit? I didn't think the proper protocol was for the buyer to out right offer one first :confused:

Originally Posted by T Doll

If someone said to you, the same thing that you said to me...you wouldn't take offense to that? I don't exactly appreciate people accusing me of having some motives that I never had. And what might seems "odd" to you, might make perfect sense to others. So just because you thought it was odd/suspicious that I posted my feelings in this particular thread (instead of making my own), doesn't mean that guilty of what you're accusing me of.

First of all, I didn't think that expressing my feelings in someone else's thread was a no-no? I didn't make my own thread about it because I didn't want to have a "negative" review dedicated towards her. I didn't believe it was necessary to have an entire thread about it. And could you imagine if I had made up my own thread about this? People would've jumped all over me, coming to the defense of their precious Breny. Heaven forbid anyone say anything that was less than positive, about her. I guarantee that if this situation happened with anyone else (outside of YT and not a known member on here), people wouldn't be so quick to jump to her defense.

I never made a judgment against Breny, I used facts and comments from what happened, and interpreted them accordingly. You guys, on the other hand, just assume that she was simply trying to place the puppy in a better suited home. Do you actually know that? No. Being that I was the one in the situation and know the specifics, I'm 100% certain that wasn't the case. She even said to me that shes reserves the puppy to the first person that gives her a deposit. That doesn't sound like she thought I wasn't suitable for her pup? And she was the one who came to ME, offering ME one of her puppies. I did not initially come to her.

I don't understand why everyone is so offended that I post my thoughts in "this" thread. Just because it's a positive review thread, I have to completely agree with it in order to post? What if somebody came on here posting a "positive review" on that horrible breeder of yorkiepup.com? Would people not be allowed to chime in and give their thoughts - be it good or bad? The point is, nobody is perfect. Good reviews come with bad reviews, and vice versa.

I'm confused...did she...or did she not mention a deposit? As highlighted in your very 1st post...you clearly state she NEVER mentioned a deposit at any time or you would have placed one. Now...in this new post...you say the complete opposite and claimed she told you the 1st person to place a deposit gets the pup. If that is the case...and your heart was so set on that pup..why didn't you place your deposit when she said first deposit gets him?
I'm sorry...but with inconsistencies like this...this just sounds like sour grapes to me.
And yes...Breny is indeed precious to those of us who know, love and respect her.

[JERSEY BOY]

I'm really sorry Tdoll that you had an unfavorable experience in 2007.
I can only only go by 1st hand knowledge of Breny in 2010. She allowed me to have one of her precious babies. From the time I placed my deposit till I brought my baby home, Breny was there 100%, she e-mailed pics and videos and answered any questions (I had lots of them ). Then she had the most sweet and caring person hand deliver Brielle from MI to NJ. Once Brielle arrived home I still had questions ( I was a nervous Mom) Breny was right there for me. I e-mail her with updates on Brielle and she always responds. I even had questions about Brielle's spay and needed her advice, she was right there for me. Vivian and Jenn (Schooby) I agree with you both and sing Breny's praises. I dream of my next baby and Breny will be the one I will call.

[T Doll]

Are you serious?? You are now comparing praise Breny a MEMBER of YT who obviously is adored on here by many to potential praise of yorkiepup.com who is a BYB!!!!!???????? People would attack that thread with oodles of negativity b/c that breeder is a BYB, BRENY IS NOT ANYWHERE IN THE REALM OF THE SAME CATEGORY so you can't compare.

That is IMHO opinion is crossing the line. NOT APPRECIATED and I made the same mistake of saying PETLAND and Breny in the same sentence and corrected myself. If I came on here and praised PETLAND and people brought negative experiences to add, I would understand as it is a WARNING for others to read b/c SOOOOOO many people have had horrific experiences. Same with yorkiepup.com BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE HERE!! Please compare apples to apples!!!!!!

BLAH-
Vivian[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

You've really taken my post out of context. I was NOT comparing Breny OR her breeding practices to that of Yorkiepup! I was using it as a mere example of why I don't understand that people can not post their honest opinions, no matter what thread it is. Everything seems to be one-sided here. You can post your opinions of what you think about me, but I can't post my opinion about someone else?

At any point, in any of my posts, did I ever refer to Breny as being a bad breeder or a BYB? In fact, I've stated the exact opposite! So how can you think that I was comparing her to Yorkiepup? I was comparing the situation (in regards to posting/threads), I was NOT comparing them as breeders.

All of you Breny followers can have your own opinions, I am in no way against that. But there is no reason for you to jump on me, just because I said something that you didn't want to hear (or believe). It was my opinion and my own experience, and I don't feel that it was wrong of me to share it here. I've even received PM's from other members telling me that I've done nothing wrong here. I'm sure there are other people reading this, who also agree, but they're not willing to speak up because they know that they would get jumped on and judged as well.

It seems like all of you are accusing me of starting all this drama, but if you take a close look, YOU are the ones who turned it into what it is now. If I wanted to start drama, I would've out right said that she was a horrible breeder/person and that everyone should stay away from her. I didn't say that. I didn't even imply that. But for some reason, some of you seem to have imagined that I said all of this? That's where/when the drama started. Sure, I stated my opinion, but I didn't cause the drama.

You guys can think whatever you want of Breny, and of me. It was not my intention to turn this thread into a debate, and I'm quite sad that that's what it came to. I am no longer going to argue and defend myself here (I've done nothing wrong). Congrats on your new baby, I'm happy for you that you had a positive experience with her. All the best to you.