Grubb Kennels

[Cerise]

Originally Posted by mommadog1

I have excellent breeding practices. And I never hid anything. So there is no "truth" to come to light. But I do not, nor will I ever mix a yorkie. I spent way to much money on champion bred yorkies. And I only breed cockapoos because we are working on making them a breed. I have been over this before with a couple of other members who respect my for being open and honest and for my reasons for breeding cockapoos.

As I have said before, I am the founder of the American cockapoo club which I started several years ago for keeping track of the lineage of our dogs. We are up 4+ generations, and we have a couple of breeders who are up to 10th generations of cockapoos.

We also have a new name for them that will go into effect within the next year and become part of the rare breeds organization. It takes a long time to get a dog recognized and I wont let you put me down for it. They are even on the OFA list of recognized "breeds".. go look..that took some time to get the cockapoo on there as well.

You wont find a yorkie poo, or other hybrids or designer breeds on their list. There are some of us out here that love the cockapoo breed and don't do it to make money. I certainly don't make any money, just ask my husband.

The cockapoo is not a hybrid or a designer dog and have been around for a very long time. Unfortunately there are some people out there breeding them for money and only breeding cocker and poodle "hybrids", just like some breeders of purebreds do it for the money by mass producing. I breed 2-3 litters a year.

And the good ones do all the appropriate testing on their dogs, including me and I am proud of my breeding program.

So, you can think anything you like, I cannot change closed minds and I don't want to. But I will defend myself when being judged by someone who doesn't even know me.

Have a wonderful day.

Give me a break.... If that is the case then why do you have Cocker Spaniel and Minature Poodle and others listed as what the mix of your dogs are on your dog family page (link)...hmmmm ????

If they were just a Cockapoo (which is still a hybrid) then you wouldn't need to list the mixes...now would you?

[mommadog1]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Case in point, we had a woman join our local breed club, who was very serious about yorkies. We all took her under our wings to assist her in exhibiting her yorkie. Through the course of the first year, she began breeding yorkies and Chi's. Needless to say it was not taken very well by members. When it time rolled around for renewing membership (dues), she was not accepted back.

Another person began attending meetings to the same yorkie club and if memory serves me correctly I think she was a YT member. She was breeding Shelties and Yorkies... Needless to say she was not accepted.

All breed clubs require home visits prior to accepting a potential member into the club.....Whether you are doing it cautiousley or not, cross breeding is very frowned upon by these breed clubs.

A yorkie chi mix? egads and yuck! I used to belong to the local cocker spaniel club and I was very involved. My mentor at the time brought me to a few meetings and I was accepted.

My mentor was the vice president at the time and I was involved with confirmation, I took handler classes with my 2 cockers so I could handle my own dogs in the ring. I loved it! I enjoyed agility more though.

The cocker I have now is 9 years old and I did not show her but she and I did agility and she just had a blast.

Anyhow, this thread was about a rotten breeder and got kind of hijacked, partially my fault. So If you would like to chat further I would look forward to your (and others) PM's..

[mommadog1]

Originally Posted by Cerise

Give me a break.... If that is the case then why do you have Cocker Spaniel and Minature Poodle and others listed as what the mix of your dogs are on your dog family page (link)...hmmmm ????

If they were just a Cockapoo (which is still a hybrid) then you wouldn't need to list the mixes...now would you?

I don't have a poodle... where did you get that from? Are you talking about key words? And my cocker spaniel is 9 years old!! I used to breed and show cocker spaniels.

A hybrid is a mix of 2 purebred dogs, not their offspring. How do you think breeds are made? just appear? A cockapoo multi-generation is just that, breeding with the start of a cocker and poodle, and then cockapoo to cockapoo and ONLY cockapoo to cockapoo. That is NOT a hybrid. ONLY a first generation (F1) is a hybrid.

Please, if your going to jump on my butt, do it with some research first. and even if you don't agree with what I do, some respect would be nice. I have tried to show it to you.

[mommadog1]

Originally Posted by Cerise

Give me a break.... If that is the case then why do you have Cocker Spaniel and Minature Poodle and others listed as what the mix of your dogs are on your dog family page (link)...hmmmm ????

If they were just a Cockapoo (which is still a hybrid) then you wouldn't need to list the mixes...now would you?

Are you talking about my dogster pages? LOL.. they only give you so many choices for breeds.

Let me list them for you..
Hanna, 9 years, purebred cocker.. Spayed

Kizzie, age 5 purebred yorkie..Spayed and never bred, she is 3 pounds.

Ripley, 1st gen (F1) cockapoo, age 6. intact, he is my stud.

Foxy almost 2 years, long haired chihuahua. Spayed, 3 pounds, never bred.

Pennie, 7 months 5 pounds purebred yorkie, champion sired. Intact.

Gracie, 11 months, 5 pounds purebred yorkie, champion sired. Intact

Mindy, larger yorkie, approx. age of 4, a rescue we have been trying to place.. spayed.

Candy 11 months, 2nd generation (F2) cockapoo..Intact

JuJu almost 3, 1st generation cockapoo, intact has had 1 litter with Ripley.

Rose, almost 3, 1st gen cockapoo, intact, 1 litter with Ripley. Will be retired after her next litter.

Tripper almost 4 months old cockapoo, 4th generation

ChiChi almost 8 months, cockapoo 2nd generation..intact.

So, I only have 2 females able to breed at this time. By the time the others are old enough JuJu and Rose with be "retired", and spayed. I never breed a female more than 3 times.

[Cerise]

Originally Posted by mommadog1

I don't have a poodle... where did you get that from? Are you talking about key words? And my cocker spaniel is 9 years old!! I used to breed and show cocker spaniels.

A hybrid is a mix of 2 purebred dogs, not their offspring. How do you think breeds are made? just appear? A cockapoo multi-generation is just that, breeding with the start of a cocker and poodle, and then cockapoo to cockapoo and ONLY cockapoo to cockapoo. That is NOT a hybrid. ONLY a first generation (F1) is a hybrid.

Please, if your going to jump on my butt, do it with some research first. and even if you don't agree with what I do, some respect would be nice. I have tried to show it to you.

Well since you want to play dumb:

Ripley...Cocker Spaniel/Toy Poodle

Candy...Cocker Spaniel/Toy Poodle

Ju Ju Bean... Cocker Spaniel/Toy Poodle

Rose... Cocker Spaniel/Toy Poodle

Tripper... Cocker Spaniel/Minature Poodle

...and another who I forgot the name of which is listed as an American Cocker Spaniel/Minature Poodle

All on your Dogster family page and you say they aren't hybrids? Who are you think you fooling?

[mommadog1]

Originally Posted by Cerise

Well since you want to play dumb:

Ripley...Cocker Spaniel/Toy Poodle

Candy...Cocker Spaniel/Toy Poodle

Ju Ju Bean... Cocker Spaniel/Toy Poodle

Rose... Cocker Spaniel/Toy Poodle

Tripper... Cocker Spaniel/Minature Poodle

...and another who I forgot the name of which is listed as an American Cocker Spaniel/Minature Poodle

All on your Dogster family page and you say they aren't hybrids? Who are you think you fooling?

Ok, calling me names isn't going to help your "cause".. I am not dumb nor do I play dumb. I honestly did not understand what you meant.

You try to add your dog to dogster and see what choices it gives you, and yes you have to list them..

I am done with you..You just aren't listening..

[mommadog1]

Originally Posted by Cerise

Well since you want to play dumb:

Ripley...Cocker Spaniel/Toy Poodle

Candy...Cocker Spaniel/Toy Poodle

Ju Ju Bean... Cocker Spaniel/Toy Poodle

Rose... Cocker Spaniel/Toy Poodle

Tripper... Cocker Spaniel/Minature Poodle

...and another who I forgot the name of which is listed as an American Cocker Spaniel/Minature Poodle

All on your Dogster family page and you say they aren't hybrids? Who are you think you fooling?

One more thing.. I DO NOT breed first generation cockapoos.. I bought them and I breed them to get 2nd generation. SO NO I am not breeding hybrids. so roll your eyes until they fall out.. You are not worth my time.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by mommadog1

Are you talking about my dogster pages? LOL.. they only give you so many choices for breeds.

Let me list them for you..

Pennie, 7 months 5 pounds purebred yorkie, champion sired. Intact.

Gracie, 11 months, 5 pounds purebred yorkie, champion sired. Intact

Just a bit of suggestion....do away with listing your yorkies as Championed sired. It is viewed as an advertising ploy. These maynot be the yorkies you plan to breed, but still viewed as an advertising ploy.

[mommadog1]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Just a bit of suggestion....do away with listing your yorkies as Championed sired. It is viewed as an advertising ploy. These maynot be the yorkies you plan to breed, but still viewed as an advertising ploy.

Enough already.. I only posted that here i dont advertise them.. some of you are so nasty to people on here, not just me. You find something to pick at and you pick it until it bleeds and treating people like this is sickening and just mean.

[Cerise]

Originally Posted by mommadog1

Ok, calling me names isn't going to help your "cause".. I am not dumb nor do I play dumb. I honestly did not understand what you meant.

You try to add your dog to dogster and see what choices it gives you, and yes you have to list them..

I am done with you..You just aren't listening..

I am not calling you dumb. I said "want to play" I have no desire or need to list Cerise on Dogster. She is a well bred Yorkshire Terrier and I found her on Yorkie Talk from a reputable Yorkshire Terrier breeder. I am listening and prehaps I am a bit prejudice towards those who purposely mix breeds, then later want to breed Yorkies claiming they will not mix them. There are a lot of people like me and hopefully in the future there will be more. I do hope you take this as constructive, not negative and in the future learn to breed Yorkies for the better of the breed and do away with the hybrid past. There are enough BYB breeders and hybrid breeders in this country all ready. We need more people who are really concerned with being ethical and humane towards upholding proper breeding.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by mommadog1

Enough already.. I only posted that here i dont advertise them.. some of you are so nasty to people on here, not just me. You find something to pick at and you pick it until it bleeds and treating people like this is sickening and just mean.

My post was not picking at you. Advice was given with good intent and you took it wrong.

But, you are cross breeding, no matter how you paint it, in the world of responsible pure breed breeders it is unacceptable.

Since this thread was hijacked and the full intent has gone off track. I don't think the thread should be closed, but get back to the intent it was started for.

[crishayes]

I bought 3 yorkies from this breeder and two got parvo 7 days after, one sadly died the other pulled through after spending $1400 on vet bills. She agreed to replace the one that died three months later. Only to find out the replacement has a collapsing trachea, a genetic defect. Can be corrected with surgery (another $2000) or be on lifetime cough syrup which is addicting. She also has not mailed the shot record or AKC registration. We have no idea what this puppy has had done or what he still needs, very unprofessional. Bottom line go somewhere else to buy your yorkies.