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[cj125]

Originally Posted by cj125

Please do not buy from there!

Please try to contact a breeder that belongs to the Yorkshire Terrier Club of American (YTCA). If they don't have a litter and they know of someone who does - they will direct you to them.

Yorkshire Terrier Club of America About The Club

Here's some good info found here in the YT Library.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...uy-yorkie.html

Originally Posted by mommadog1

Do you know how hard it is to get into that club? First you have to belong to a local club, then you have to be sponsored.

I know nothing of that breeder. But just because someone is a club member does not mean they aren't a reputable breeder. Just wanted to add that

Mary, I think it was because I suggested for the OP to use the YTCA breeder directory.

The OP did say that she would look closer to home, now.

[mommadog1]

Originally Posted by cj125

Yes - there's a reason you have to go through all of that. It's a way to try to weed out people who they don't believe will uphold the standards. No it's not perfect - but it's a good start.

Yes that makes sense. The yorkie club here in WA state doesn't update anything on their site so it makes it really hard to find out whats going on with shows and things like that. And most of their email addresses aren't valid either. I found 1 that worked.

[mommadog1]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

No you don't have to belong to a local club to become a member of YTCA. Yes, you do have to have sponsors that have known you for over two years, with one having visited your home. They also have to approve of your breeding practices. You must be in good standing with AKC. Go to the YTCA.org website and read the responsibilities of sponsor ship. And of course one must abide by the code of ethics and conduct.

FYI Local Clubs also require sponsorship and to be accepted by exhisting members with a minimume of 2/3 vote.

But, as you say there are good and bad breeders in every organization, no club is perfect. But, the YTCA does their best to police members. If a member is known to commit an infraction of club and AKC rules, they are dealt with. If they are suspended by AKC they are automatically suspended from YTCA.

OIC..thanks for the info.. when I called them they said I had to be a local member first. But I am not even breeding yorkies yet. My 2 are a ways off yet from being able to breed, age wise and tests, etc..

[mommadog1]

Originally Posted by cj125

Mary, I think it was because I suggested for the OP to use the YTCA breeder directory.

The OP did say that she would look closer to home, now.

Yes you are correct. That is why I said that. Nothing at all against the club. Just basically saying that is a great place to go to look for a local breeder but that just because someone doesn't belong to the club doesn't make them not worth looking into.

However, I agree with the red flags about this particular web site/breeder.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by mommadog1

Yes that makes sense. The yorkie club here in WA state doesn't update anything on their site so it makes it really hard to find out whats going on with shows and things like that. And most of their email addresses aren't valid either. I found 1 that worked.

Regional Club Show information is posted on the YTCA.org site.

However, if one is looking for a Yorkshire Terrier Breeder, The YTCA breeder referral coordinator, lives in the state of WA and is listed on the YTCA referral page.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by mommadog1

OIC..thanks for the info.. when I called them they said I had to be a local member first. But I am not even breeding yorkies yet. My 2 are a ways off yet from being able to breed, age wise and tests, etc..

While it is not a requirement, the do prefer that you become a member of a Regional Breed Club or AKC Kennel Club and actively particpate in AKC events.

The one thing that may be a road block to you becoming a member of either is that you participate in cross breeding. That is frowned upon by Regional Clubs, The National Club and AKC Kennel Clubs.

[mommadog1]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Regional Club Show information is posted on the YTCA.org site.

However, if one is looking for a Yorkshire Terrier Breeder, The YTCA breeder referral coordinator, lives in the state of WA and is listed on the YTCA referral page.

haha figures I guess I didn't look well enough..lol

[mommadog1]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

While it is not a requirement, the do prefer that you become a member of a Regional Breed Club or AKC Kennel Club and actively particpate in AKC events.

The one thing that may be a road block to you becoming a member of either is that you participate in cross breeding. That is frowned upon by Regional Clubs, The National Club and AKC Kennel Clubs.

Yeah I kind of figured that.. I would never cross breed a yorkie though. I actually breed multi-generation cockapoos so I have 2nd, 3rd and 4th generations. But i know it is frowned on, and even though I don't like it, I understand and respect their feelings about it.

[Cerise]

Originally Posted by mommadog1

Yeah I kind of figured that.. I would never cross breed a yorkie though. I actually breed multi-generation cockapoos so I have 2nd, 3rd and 4th generations. But i know it is frowned on, and even though I don't like it, I understand and respect their feelings about it.

Yes that is frowned upon. Are you planning on breeding Yorkies and you say you would never cross breed them? If you do it for one I'd think you'd do it for another because your track record shows you don't consider ethics in breeding. I would think the YTCA probably wouldn't consider this wise either.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by mommadog1

Yeah I kind of figured that.. I would never cross breed a yorkie though. I actually breed multi-generation cockapoos so I have 2nd, 3rd and 4th generations. But i know it is frowned on, and even though I don't like it, I understand and respect their feelings about it.

Since membership applications are published to the entire membership to either approve or disapprove and the dog world being small. The fact of you're cross breeding may be brought to light, therefore it is a geat possibility your breeding practices will definately be disapproved.

[mommadog1]

better to keep my mouth shut

[Cerise]

Originally Posted by mommadog1

better to keep my mouth shut

LOL! Truth eventually comes to the light. That is what YT is for! Perhaps it will help you change your breeding practices for the better.

[mommadog1]

Originally Posted by Cerise

LOL! Truth eventually comes to the light. That is what YT is for! Perhaps it will help you change your breeding practices for the better.

I have excellent breeding practices. And I never hid anything. So there is no "truth" to come to light. But I do not, nor will I ever mix a yorkie. I spent way to much money on champion bred yorkies. And I only breed cockapoos because we are working on making them a breed. I have been over this before with a couple of other members who respect my for being open and honest and for my reasons for breeding cockapoos.

As I have said before, I am the founder of the American cockapoo club which I started several years ago for keeping track of the lineage of our dogs. We are up 4+ generations, and we have a couple of breeders who are up to 10th generations of cockapoos.

We also have a new name for them that will go into effect within the next year and become part of the rare breeds organization. It takes a long time to get a dog recognized and I wont let you put me down for it. They are even on the OFA list of recognized "breeds".. go look..that took some time to get the cockapoo on there as well.

You wont find a yorkie poo, or other hybrids or designer breeds on their list. There are some of us out here that love the cockapoo breed and don't do it to make money. I certainly don't make any money, just ask my husband.

The cockapoo is not a hybrid or a designer dog and have been around for a very long time. Unfortunately there are some people out there breeding them for money and only breeding cocker and poodle "hybrids", just like some breeders of purebreds do it for the money by mass producing. I breed 2-3 litters a year.

And the good ones do all the appropriate testing on their dogs, including me and I am proud of my breeding program.

So, you can think anything you like, I cannot change closed minds and I don't want to. But I will defend myself when being judged by someone who doesn't even know me.

Have a wonderful day.

[mommadog1]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Since membership applications are published to the entire membership to either approve or disapprove and the dog world being small. The fact of you're cross breeding may be brought to light, therefore it is a geat possibility your breeding practices will definately be disapproved.

Yes I am sure it would be. I just wanted to be involved with supporting my local yorkie breed club and get involved in some activities with my own yorkies.
Thanks for the feedback.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by mommadog1

Yes I am sure it would be. I just wanted to be involved with supporting my local yorkie breed club and get involved in some activities with my own yorkies.
Thanks for the feedback.

Case in point, we had a woman join our local breed club, who was very serious about yorkies. We all took her under our wings to assist her in exhibiting her yorkie. Through the course of the first year, she began breeding yorkies and Chi's. Needless to say it was not taken very well by members. When it time rolled around for renewing membership (dues), she was not accepted back.

Another person began attending meetings to the same yorkie club and if memory serves me correctly I think she was a YT member. She was breeding Shelties and Yorkies... Needless to say she was not accepted.

All breed clubs require home visits prior to accepting a potential member into the club.....Whether you are doing it cautiousley or not, cross breeding is very frowned upon by these breed clubs.