Beauford's TLC Kennel in Missouri a puppy mill?

[WalnutHill]

Originally Posted by jrsygal37

Hi. I did not read through all the post, just a few. I just wanted to say that there are brokers that pose as rescue. Not saying this is the case, but you mentioned that she came from an auction and you got her through rescue. Myself and another exposed one rescue right here in NJ that was buying pups from auctions then listing them on petfinder.com as rescues. This was not a legitimate rescue. It was a broker who was making a lot of money. Just because a place is listed as a rescue does not mean they are legite. Many people do not realize this. You need to be savvy and check out the rescue and make sure that they are infact legitimate. A big red flag with a broker posing as a rescue is when they have many pups available for adoption and either none or not many adults. Elaine

Sad that a broker would pose as a rescue...

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by WalnutHill

Sad that a broker would pose as a rescue...

It's very commong. It's happened on YT.

[orlnurse]

I know this is an old thread but just a quick follow up. During the back and forth with Peg, the owner of TLC kennel it was said that she and her husband were 70 years old, and the reason for getting "rid" of some of their pups to a rescue is because they were trying to cut back on their "work". Now they have maltese dogs and maltese pups and morkie pups. Looks like a lot more work to me....Maybe they should change their name to TLC Puppymill.

[Dianab28]

I bought a puppy from Beaufords and toured their kennel nursery when I went to pick him up. It was very clean as were all the puppies and my little guy is not only beautiful but very fiesty and healthy. I wasn't happy about the additional charges when I got there and would have liked to know that I was only getting a limited registration in advance. As far as being a puppy mill, I don't know. I would think it would be difficult to give that many dogs the attention they need but maybe they have staff?

[pancakepat]

I've always wondered why there's never no address. Only e-mail address & sometimes phone numbers. To me---- no address---- screams puppymill.
Missiouri IS the number ONE puppymill state.
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[Dianab28]

They will give out an address and directions, however I could understand why someone wouldn't want to post it on the internet. It's not unheard of for farmers to have herds of animals stolen. If someone can steal a herd of cattle or pigs in a few hours how long do you think it would take to steal little dogs? Much easier to get rid of as well.
I could also see it from a biosecurity standpoint. If someone took the liberty to let themselves into a kennel and walked through with feces on their shoes they could spread Parvo or any number of diseases to your dogs.
Not trying to defend anyone here but trying to look at all angles before making a judgement.

[Reese1]

Originally Posted by Dianab28

I bought a puppy from Beaufords and toured their kennel nursery when I went to pick him up. It was very clean as were all the puppies and my little guy is not only beautiful but very fiesty and healthy. I wasn't happy about the additional charges when I got there and would have liked to know that I was only getting a limited registration in advance. As far as being a puppy mill, I don't know. I would think it would be difficult to give that many dogs the attention they need but maybe they have staff?

Originally Posted by Dianab28

They will give out an address and directions, however I could understand why someone wouldn't want to post it on the internet. It's not unheard of for farmers to have herds of animals stolen. If someone can steal a herd of cattle or pigs in a few hours how long do you think it would take to steal little dogs? Much easier to get rid of as well.
I could also see it from a biosecurity standpoint. If someone took the liberty to let themselves into a kennel and walked through with feces on their shoes they could spread Parvo or any number of diseases to your dogs.
Not trying to defend anyone here but trying to look at all angles before making a judgement.

I see that you are a breeder, so are you breeding the dog that you bought from them since he was sold on limited?
I'm just surprised that all the red flags on their site, the fact they are USDA and run a large kennel didn't distract you from buying from them.
I see that you also breed mixed breeds though and am I reading your site correctly that you are breeding a 3lb & 4lb Yorkie??

[orlnurse]

Originally Posted by Dianab28

I bought a puppy from Beaufords and toured their kennel nursery when I went to pick him up. It was very clean as were all the puppies and my little guy is not only beautiful but very fiesty and healthy. I wasn't happy about the additional charges when I got there and would have liked to know that I was only getting a limited registration in advance. As far as being a puppy mill, I don't know. I would think it would be difficult to give that many dogs the attention they need but maybe they have staff?

Exactly, puppy mills don't give their dogs the attention they need. Given the circumstances in which I got Lily, I inclined to believe its a puppy mill. If they knew in advance that you were coming to tour the facility, they could easily clean up prior to you arriving.

[Dianab28]

Originally Posted by Reese1

I see that you are a breeder, so are you breeding the dog that you bought from them since he was sold on limited?
I'm just surprised that all the red flags on their site, the fact they are USDA and run a large kennel didn't distract you from buying from them.
I see that you also breed mixed breeds though and am I reading your site correctly that you are breeding a 3lb & 4lb Yorkie??

The dog that I bought was years ago and was a pet, he has since passed away. Being USDA licensed has to do with the number of dogs. In certain parts of Missouri if you have more than 3 dogs, you have to be licensed. Yes, I breed Morkies and Yorkies. All of my dogs are kept in my home and would challenge anyone to provide better care for their dogs than I do. My dogs were all vetted and cleared by my vet prior to breeding. You might want to do a little research on Yorkies, because they were once a "mixed" breed as well. It took years of selecting characterstics from several dog breeds, some reports include Maltese, to get what we call a Yorkie today.

[Dianab28]

Originally Posted by orlnurse

Exactly, puppy mills don't give their dogs the attention they need. Given the circumstances in which I got Lily, I inclined to believe its a puppy mill. If they knew in advance that you were coming to tour the facility, they could easily clean up prior to you arriving.

That's true. It sounds like Lily ended up in a good home, even if she had a rough start.

[Rhetts_mama]

Originally Posted by Dianab28

The dog that I bought was years ago and was a pet, he has since passed away. Being USDA licensed has to do with the number of dogs. In certain parts of Missouri if you have more than 3 dogs, you have to be licensed. Yes, I breed Morkies and Yorkies. All of my dogs are kept in my home and would challenge anyone to provide better care for their dogs than I do. My dogs were all vetted and cleared by my vet prior to breeding. You might want to do a little research on Yorkies, because they were once a "mixed" breed as well. It took years of selecting characterstics from several dog breeds, some reports include Maltese, to get what we call a Yorkie today.

I am pretty sure everyone here has researched how yorkies came in to being. It was done with careful research and consideration to the lines they were breeding from to produce certain, standardized characteristics. The same can not be said of Morkies.

[Reese1]

Originally Posted by Dianab28

The dog that I bought was years ago and was a pet, he has since passed away. Being USDA licensed has to do with the number of dogs. In certain parts of Missouri if you have more than 3 dogs, you have to be licensed. Yes, I breed Morkies and Yorkies. All of my dogs are kept in my home and would challenge anyone to provide better care for their dogs than I do. My dogs were all vetted and cleared by my vet prior to breeding. You might want to do a little research on Yorkies, because they were once a "mixed" breed as well. It took years of selecting characterstics from several dog breeds, some reports include Maltese, to get what we call a Yorkie today.

They have a lot more then 3 dogs on their site, but USDA has more meanings then just the number of dogs. They also have mixed breeds, small females, etc..
Do you or do you not have a 3lb female & a 4lb female listed as breeding dogs on your site? In fact you have that the 3lb female is now pregnant. That is extremely small! Though, I guess that is what you are going for since you point out that the 4lb female will have "tiny little babies."
I do not need to do any research on Yorkies or the history of them. That has nothing to do with today or people purposely mixing breeds.
I'm not saying you do or do not provide proper vet care, but I don't understand anyone breeding Yorkies that small or mixing breeds.
I'm sorry, but as a buyer these are things I would stay away from because I would question any breeders motives for breeding under those circumstances.

[DawnF]

Originally Posted by orlnurse

I am not certain that this is a puppy mill but let me tell you my story and you can determine that for yourself. Beauford's TLC Kennel is located in Missouri and I am in Florida. I adopted Lily through a rescue here in Florida that went to an auction in Missouri to "save" a large number of dogs. When I adopted her, I also got her AKC papers that listed the name of the kennel where she came from and her parents. I "googled" the information and found their website quite easily. On their website, the have a listing of their "breeders"; all 29 of them. From my understanding, puppy mills frequently have auctions. I am still confused as to why they gave up Lily since 2 of her litter mates were still listed on their site when I first did my search. I emailed them to see what they had to say. I asked about her history and under what circumstances she was given up. Here is their response:

Hi Lesley
I just wanted to let you know she came from a really good home. She has had all her shots and worming and I guarantee you allot more shots and worming more than most pups get. She has been loved and cared for and it should show in her. Our kennels are what people call a top of the line kennel. We have 4 buildings all with air/heat, inside and going to outside runs, automatic wash downs and automatic waterers and we feed Iams puppy and Eukanuba puppy feed and Bil Jac feed which is a really good feed. We have a playful in the nursery kennel where the pups get to play in everyday and our kennels are cleaner than most peoples home, but my husband and I are retired and these are our babies, but just getting a little age on us where we just have to slow down a little. But thanks so much for letting me know.
Peg
P..s
Please visit our website at Beauford TLC Kennel Yorkshire Terriers Wappapello Missouri


Keep in mind, I don't want to start any trouble, but I truly feel that this is a puppy mill and the circumstances from which I adopted my Lily are shady...on both ends. I'm not convinced the story that the rescue group gave me either. They told me it was a puppy bust which is what prompted me to do a search. I wanted to see if this place was still in business. Again, I just want this information available to anyone who may do a search about this kennel. Of course, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Hi Leslie,
I honestly do not believe Beaufords is or was ever involved in any puppy mill. I too live in Florida. Three years ago I did some intense web searching for a yorkie and came across Beaufords website. I was given reference names of others who bought yorkies from them and all had only good things to say. I made the decision to purchase my baby. As anxious as I was to get her, they would not ship her to me until she reached a certain weight as they were concerned about her health and safety. When I finally received my baby, she was exactly as promised. I had her vet checked within a few days and was told she was very healthy, well cared for and surely came from a great breeder. I have recommended Beaufords to friends. A year after I got mine, a friend from here in FL, bought her yorkie from Beaufords...in fact, they have the same daddy. I would buy another yorkie from this breeder in a heart beat!
Dawn from Winter Haven, FL.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by DawnF

Hi Leslie,
I honestly do not believe Beaufords is or was ever involved in any puppy mill. I too live in Florida. Three years ago I did some intense web searching for a yorkie and came across Beaufords website. I was given reference names of others who bought yorkies from them and all had only good things to say. I made the decision to purchase my baby. As anxious as I was to get her, they would not ship her to me until she reached a certain weight as they were concerned about her health and safety. When I finally received my baby, she was exactly as promised. I had her vet checked within a few days and was told she was very healthy, well cared for and surely came from a great breeder. I have recommended Beaufords to friends. A year after I got mine, a friend from here in FL, bought her yorkie from Beaufords...in fact, they have the same daddy. I would buy another yorkie from this breeder in a heart beat!
Dawn from Winter Haven, FL.

Posts such as yours make me want to conk my head on a wall. Big deal that the breeder wouldn't ship before the dog reached a certain weight, even a miller doesn't want the dogs to die during transport. Unless you have visited the place in person, you have no idea how they keep their dogs. Why would you recommend a breeder when you have no idea how the the breeding dogs are kept, this is the sort of thing that enables puppy mills to continue.

[DawnF]

Beaufords welcomes anyone to come and view their puppies and property in person. They are not hiding anything. I think its sad that people post accusations before they know the facts.