Amara's Purse Companions...anyone bought from there?

[joesmom]

I understood the same thing, she is upset because the baby will not be as tiny as she thought...

Originally Posted by mistyinca

This is being said with all sensitivity to your situation, but I'm totally confused as to why you're sending her back. You said she is healthy (confirmed by the vet) and playful--that sounds wonderful to me. Is it because she is younger than you expected and, therefore, not going to be as TINY as you wanted.

The way to not let a breeder "get away with it" is to not buy in the first place. If she sold you a sickly puppy, that would be completely understandable, but it is sounding like she's not going to be tiny enough for you.

If I'm wrong in my understanding, I apologize, but that is what I gather from your posts. If I have it wrong, please tell, why is it terrible that she is younger than you expected?

[JCarlson2004]

Originally Posted by red98vett

thanks Jen and I agree to a point. When I posted I was mostly referring to those that just are so freaked over a few ounces or a pound or 2 - not her - just in general -

In the bigger scope of things - if someone has a healthy VERY Small yorkie - then what exactly is the problem if they aren't exactly the weight you expected ? No breeder can guess weights that well - they can be in the ballpark - but it IS a guessing game. I know I bonded in less than 24 hours with Chanel...I had no idea what her weight would be and could have cared less.

I agree if that breeder lied to her she has every right to be upset but she did say how tiny this puppy was and that IS what she was looking for - so why send her back ??? I really hope she keeps her but it's her choice I guess....

I just don't think she should have been upset at anyone here - we were trying to HELP.. She misread my first post to her and it just went downhill from there - but no one said anything so bad that she had to leave over it... I hope she changes her mind....she may have been just emotional that day.

Maybe I misunderstood but I thought she was upset because she was lied to about the dog's age, not because of the dog's weight. I know I personally wanted a slightly older dog when I was looking around the time we got Tia. Tia was 5 months old and that's what I wanted ... a dog around 5 or 6 months. I would have been upset if someone told me hey, take this dog because she is 5 months old and then I end up getting a 3 month old dog because, as cute as that dog may be, it wasn't what I originally wanted and paid hard earned money for.

If I were in her situation, I personally would have kept the dog only because that poor baby doesn't need to go on another flight back to the breeder. But I would have been seriously pissed off at the breeder for LYING to me and I would have made sure she was damn aware of it. I also would have posted on YT and other forums to warn them about this lying breeder.

I definitely agree with you ... what people said to her wasn't so bad that it should have puhed her to leave YT but I guess maybe she is super sensitive about it all. I just hope she decides to come back because we're overall such a great group here.

[red98vett]

Very true - unfortunately we see alot of breeders skirt around the truth.. it's just a sad part of doing business since yorkies are so popular now -

I really do wish her the best and maybe she'll keep her - I sure hope so... it did sound like the breeder was working with her so either way - I hope it all works out.

[JCarlson2004]

Originally Posted by red98vett

Very true - unfortunately we see alot of breeders skirt around the truth.. it's just a sad part of doing business since yorkies are so popular now -

I really do wish her the best and maybe she'll keep her - I sure hope so... it did sound like the breeder was working with her so either way - I hope it all works out.

That's where I'm confused. This breeder seems so willingly for her to return the dog and give her back her money. So why bother to lie in the first place? She should have just told her the truth from the beginning, that this dog was not 7 months old but 3 months. The worst that would have happened it makemepretty would have just selected a different dog. Why all the deception? What was the breeder hoping to accomplish? She's losing out because she is going to have to return the money to makemepretty now. Actually, it's going to cost the breeder money for flying the dog back and forth. This is such a weird situation!

[Txgurl06]

Originally Posted by JCarlson2004

Maybe I misunderstood but I thought she was upset because she was lied to about the dog's age, not because of the dog's weight. I know I personally wanted a slightly older dog when I was looking around the time we got Tia. Tia was 5 months old and that's what I wanted ... a dog around 5 or 6 months. I would have been upset if someone told me hey, take this dog because she is 5 months old and then I end up getting a 3 month old dog because, as cute as that dog may be, it wasn't what I originally wanted and paid hard earned money for.

If I were in her situation, I personally would have kept the dog only because that poor baby doesn't need to go on another flight back to the breeder. But I would have been seriously pissed off at the breeder for LYING to me and I would have made sure she was damn aware of it. I also would have posted on YT and other forums to warn them about this lying breeder.

I definitely agree with you ... what people said to her wasn't so bad that it should have puhed her to leave YT but I guess maybe she is super sensitive about it all. I just hope she decides to come back because we're overall such a great group here.

it was both

see she wants a 7month old dog that would be a certain tiny weight. but if the breeder gave her a younger dog at the specific weight she wanted a 7month old day to weigh then the dog would be bigger than what she bought. i hope i broke that down good enough.


thats what i told her i said why would it matter about how old she is she will eventually be 7months and she said no i but i was promised a 7month old at being this tiny and now i got a younger dog that is this weight so at 7months it wont be that tiny.


so basically it was all about the puppy not being as tiny as she wanted her.

[Snow White]

Originally Posted by JCarlson2004

I don't think it's fair to say someone shouldn't WANT a tiny dog or a certain color. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and to buy what they want.
I highlighted the words WANT and HAVE TO HAVE meaning IT HAS TO BE...I also want certain things the way I want and I believe I said it in that way.
I JUST DON'T WANT THAT TO BE OF THE UPMOST IMPORTANCE. Meaning if they want it fine (I like tiny also) just don't make me feel as though they will "get ride of the pup if it gets larger".
Bottom line is she was DECEIVED and LIED to by this "breeder" (and I use that term lightly because this woman, in my opinion, is nothing short of a LIAR and has no business breeding or selling pups). She has every right to be angry and upset.

Now to address this: I am not so sure she was lied to or deceived. It was supposed to be 6-7 mo and she complained that it still had puppy teeth. It should, it is a puppy. and...It was tiny so the vet could have been misled in ageing it. I have had vets mis age pups I raised and KNEW the birthdate because they were tiny. The breeder did offer full refund ~ why would the breeder take a chance on sending a $3000 puppy at 12 wks? all the while offering full refund if not happy? It does not make sence. I really beleive the buyer had $3000 puppy regrets and got scared it would get killed or injured easily and she would be out $3000. I met the breeder 1 time (Do not know her though) I bought Bonjovi and he was exactly as stated.

I feel bad for the pup too but it is not makemepretty's fault that she was lied to and she should not feel like she has to keep a puppy that was not what she originally wanted. Whether it be size or color or age, it wasn't what she agreed to and originally wanted.

Why pay $3000 for a puppy she could have bought anywhere for even $300 if she was not wanting tiny? The age is changing daily so if healthy why cry now? The color still is not developed. She got what she paid for and had buyer regrets. She looked here for someone to say "send it back" which is why she got so defensive when everbody said they would keep it.

I just checked her profile and it says she is no longer a member. I feel bad that she felt like she was run off of YT. I'm not blaming anyone because what she did was her own decision but we need to remember that there are real feelings behind the computer and these usernames.

Yes, I was slammed last night on another thread. I was most likely in the wrong I admitted but it was a SLIP UP and could have been handled a little more kindly as I wasn't looking past my present knowledge.
Ok, I'm stepping down off my soap box now lol

PS - It was also very wrong for her to call V heartless. ANYONE that knows V knows that she is extremely kind hearted.

I hate that she left before reading these also and I am in no way bashing her as she was just bumfizzled and scared. She thought she was being picked on because we all felt for the pup instead of agreeing to send it back. I don't feel anyone intentionally slammed her....actually she slammed a couple of people.


and V....thank you for obviously being the person you are. The world needs more like you!

BTW I am in no means taking up for the breeder as I do not agree with her site AT ALL! But to call her a liar when we never saw the pup and can only go by what the woman said is not a nice thing to do either.

[Snow White]

Originally Posted by JCarlson2004

That's where I'm confused. This breeder seems so willingly for her to return the dog and give her back her money. So why bother to lie in the first place? She should have just told her the truth from the beginning, that this dog was not 7 months old but 3 months. The worst that would have happened it makemepretty would have just selected a different dog. Why all the deception? What was the breeder hoping to accomplish? She's losing out because she is going to have to return the money to makemepretty now. Actually, it's going to cost the breeder money for flying the dog back and forth. This is such a weird situation!

Now to address this: I am not so sure she was lied to or deceived. It was supposed to be 6-7 mo and she complained that it still had puppy teeth. It should, it is a puppy. and...It was tiny so the vet could have been misled in ageing it. I have had vets mis age pups I raised and KNEW the birthdate because they were tiny. The breeder did offer full refund ~ why would the breeder take a chance on sending a $3000 puppy at 12 wks? all the while offering full refund if not happy? It does not make sence. I really beleive the buyer had $3000 puppy regrets and got scared it would get killed or injured easily and she would be out $3000. I met the breeder 1 time (Do not know her though) I bought Bonjovi and he was exactly as stated.

[makemepretty]

Just an update, the puppy was safely returned. I even called because I couldn't tell if she made it there by my air waybill number. I made sure she had chewies and toys and put a limit on how long the lady had to make the return flight arrangements. The man at the airport that helped me was a Godsend. My nerves were shot, I was crying at the drop of a hat...he talked to me for a very long time.

I do have it in writing that the puppy was NOT close to the age she represented. I contacted two breeders who confirmed this and one in person who deals with very small yorkies. I talked to a vet who has a 2pound full grown yorkie as a patient and deals with tinies. He assured me what the breeder was trying to tell me was NOT possible. She insisted vets can be wrong. However, I had 3 vets(including hers) and 3 breeders of smaller yorkies who advised me. Also, I found some of her ads misrepresenting other puppies(one she had previously listed as 11 weeks automatically jumped to 22 weeks old since mothers day).

On a postive note, I see she has now changed back the ages to more correct ones and lowered her prices to reflect their actual ages(rather than trying to say a younger dog was older and smaller therefore worth "more"). So far she has refunded half my money and the other half to come in a short period of time. While I still miss the little girl, I did do what I felt was right. I just didn't want anyone to think it was because I had a change of heart. When my Lola came to me she was barely 1 1/2 pounds so I have no worries taking care of a tiny, it was the shock of receiving a puppy that did not look like the one I had picked out and was clearly months younger than she represented it to be. Age is not something a breeder is mistaken about, it was a blatant lie. Of course she would be willing to refund my money, fraud is against the law and falsifying registry paperwork is not a minor slip up.

Hopefully the rest of my money will be returned and no one at YT will go through this or purchase from anyone who's using the words "teacup" as a selling gimmick. I did contact V to let her know how things worked out and she suggested having my membership reinstated. I was quite emotional(probably dropped about 3-5 pounds in one week)and considering I'm only 5ft tall it wasn't a good thing. I apologize for saying I found her heartless. I know she was only concerned about the puppy.

My sister liked the name I picked out and she's pregnant so maybe I'll have a Zoe in my life this year. Puppywise, it'll take awhile for my heart to heal and I definately will not be as trusting. I'll count my blessings though, I read many postings of people who receive sick animals and suffer through that. It truly makes you appreciate the wonderful breeders you see on Yorkietalk.

[Susan123]

I'm glad you're staying

[red98vett]

Oh good - glad to see you back ...we can all understand being emotional but it's good to see you posting and I'm really glad she's ok....

it sounds like because of you the seller is cleaning up her act regarding HOW she sells on her site but I still feel sorry for her dogs...she's really taking the word teacup to the extreme....and that 'One Day Sale' has been going on since this thread started - what a gimmick she has going !

[JCarlson2004]

I'm so glad you came back!!! I know how hard this was for you but I think you did the right thing. This breeder lied to you (you have 3 vets, including her OWN vet, saying that) and I'm glad you didn't allow her to get away with it. I know you're going to miss that little girl but hopefully by your story, others will know to avoid this lying breeder.

I hope you start feeling better soon and I'm glad you came back.