Not sure is Shy is preggers... (2 weeks-ish) - Page 6 - YorkieTalk.com Forums

lovespandp · 08-21-2013, 01:05 PM

OP, Look I apologize that some of us ( myself included) have came on strong. I know we are all worried about Shy’s safety. I know there are ways to go about things, but it is so much easier said than done.. especially if it is something we hold dear to our hearts. Our passion tends to just come out and it gets the best of us. I apologize- non of us want you to think we don't want you here. Non of us want you to think you are alienated.

All of us here are glad to have you as a member, we are glad you came to YT asking the questions you did. Not a lot of people would do that. A lot of the members/ breeders have seen horrible things happen, losing their bitch, losing puppies, sickness getting to the puppies, parvo.. etc. I know that is not something they would want to happen to you. Breeding is not an easy thing to do, it takes a toll on your emotions. It is also very expensive, especially with Yorkies.

I know your reasons of Shy having puppies are innocent, but please look at the other side to this. You really need to ask yourself can you do this.. it is not by any means going to be easy. YT has many breeders, pick a couple and talk to them one on one. They will tell you stories that will make you want to run Shy to the Vet and have an emergency spay. It takes a very special person to breed. Please, please think about this, think about Shy most importantly. Think about the dangers that can happen to her. Without the resources, funds, mentor, Vet on call.. etc. etc you’re not going to be able to do this successfully.

Please just come back and talk to us, we will all be on our best behavior ( myself included). We are getting nowhere and our time is running out.

I ask you from the bottom of my heart ( For Shy’s sake) to please think of what you are doing before it gets too late.

chachi · 08-21-2013, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by lovespandp

OP, Look I apologize that some of us ( myself included) have came on strong. I know we are all worried about Shy’s safety. I know there are ways to go about things, but it is so much easier said than done.. especially if it is something we hold dear to our hearts. Our passion tends to just come out and it gets the best of us. I apologize- non of us want you to think we don't want you here. Non of us want you to think you are alienated.

All of us here are glad to have you as a member, we are glad you came to YT asking the questions you did. Not a lot of people would do that. A lot of the members/ breeders have seen horrible things happen, losing their bitch, losing puppies, sickness getting to the puppies, parvo.. etc. I know that is not something they would want to happen to you. Breeding is not an easy thing to do, it takes a toll on your emotions. It is also very expensive, especially with Yorkies.

I know your reasons of Shy having puppies are innocent, but please look at the other side to this. You really need to ask yourself can you do this.. it is not by any means going to be easy. YT has many breeders, pick a couple and talk to them one on one. They will tell you stories that will make you want to run Shy to the Vet and have an emergency spay. It takes a very special person to breed. Please, please think about this, think about Shy most importantly. Think about the dangers that can happen to her. Without the resources, funds, mentor, Vet on call.. etc. etc you’re not going to be able to do this successfully.

Please just come back and talk to us, we will all be on our best behavior ( myself included). We are getting nowhere and our time is running out.

I ask you from the bottom of my heart ( For Shy’s sake) to please think of what you are doing before it gets too late.

That was a very kind and caring post by you. I hope the Op sees no one is trying to alienate him we are truly concerned and I hope he will take the first step and take shy to the vet

Ellie May · 08-21-2013, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1

Ultrasounds can identify a pregnancy at 3 weeks....it is still early enough to terminate the pregnancy with spaying, without additional dangers of hemorrhage from blood engorged reproductive organs. A lot of vets will not do a spay following a c-section, because of the issues with increasing hemorrhage, unless it is an emergent situation. Likewise, they will not terminate a pregnancy that is too far along for the same reason. If you wait until day 56-58 when you normally have your xray done, you have committed to the whelp.

Sounds like he isn't wanting to terminate. If he didn't mind then they could spay immed without imaging.

lynzy420 · 08-21-2013, 02:00 PM

Ya know what bothers me more? The couple of members here that breed for the same reasons...NO GOOD REASON and call themselves a breeder...Why, because they know better....but like this guy they choose not to listen....they put their pups in danger every freaking time they breed...

normarae63 · 08-21-2013, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lynzy420

Ya know what bothers me more? The couple of members here that breed for the same reasons...NO GOOD REASON and call themselves a breeder...Why, because they know better....but like this guy they choose not to listen....they put their pups in danger every freaking time they breed...

I know exactly what you mean Lynzy...it drives me batty too that we have breeders here that continually put their pups & babies at risk by not doing proper health tests. I KNOW they know better after all the time they've spent here on YT! I guess all we can really do is to keep on trying to educate buyers on what makes a good breeder GOOD.

lynzy420 · 08-21-2013, 02:17 PM

Just to clarify....I'm talking about the self proclaimed "BREEDERS" who don't do proper health testing, breed mixed breeds and do not breed to standard...and cut corners...a.k.a. byb's....blah, blah, blah.....

THEY ARE MEMBERS AND KNOW BETTER...AND I keep HOPING they learn...but they don't....This bothers me even more than these "breeders"....

normarae63 · 08-21-2013, 02:20 PM

Bleh...I timed out.

OP- I hope for your girl's sake, you can find a decent mentor or that your vet is able & willing to assist. PLEASE, learn all you can in the meantime, her life very well may depend on it.

Lorraine · 08-21-2013, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by lynzy420

Ya know what bothers me more? The couple of members here that breed for the same reasons...NO GOOD REASON and call themselves a breeder...Why, because they know better....but like this guy they choose not to listen....they put their pups in danger every freaking time they breed...

That's why I am so careful of where I sell my pups and be sure I know the prospective buyers purposes are for getting one. Unfortunately there are more than enough people out there just selling don't care who does what with their pup.

lynzy420 · 08-22-2013, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Lorraine

That's why I am so careful of where I sell my pups and be sure I know the prospective buyers purposes are for getting one. Unfortunately there are more than enough people out there just selling don't care who does what with their pup.

intilis · 08-22-2013, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by lynzy420

Ya know what bothers me more? The couple of members here that breed for the same reasons...NO GOOD REASON and call themselves a breeder...Why, because they know better....but like this guy they choose not to listen....they put their pups in danger every freaking time they breed...

Its too bad there is no way for newbies to know who to shy away from here. Ive been around for a few years & still don't know for sure! I only know of 2 I would buy from, and I'm only begining to suspect which regulars may be shady.

jaydoubledub · 09-09-2013, 06:27 PM

Hey folks, I'm not on to read the critics, but, to simply give an update to the ones who care...

Shy has been to the vet twice since I posted last. Her first visit was meant to get xrays, but, it turned out to be too soon. We got her some more blood work and it came back healthy. After another week and a half or so, we went back in at day 45 (two days ago) and poised the question to her vet again, "do you really think she's healthy enough to have the pups? Should we terminate and have her spayed?" She told me she is a healthy 6lbs and she has no reason as to why she shouldn't have them. She made me reminded me that smaller breeds tend to need cesareans, especially if there is not many pups and that Shy could be in the same boat. THEN she asked me what I wanted to do. I told her that I wanted her to be healthy, no matter what. Even if she thought we should terminate. I was told she should be fine and we took measures to make sure her cesarean (if needed) could be setup in a hurry as well as her spay after she delivers. We setup the "worst case scenario" prices and made arrangements accordingly. I have her an appointment this Sunday, for an xray, to find out how many she'll have. We've also made sure to get ready for her pups to be put on a wellness plan with spay/neuter.

Well, there you have it. She's doing well, giving lots of puppy kisses, still has some energy and takes the stairs with me to use the restroom (though I go slow and we take the elevator up instead of her climbing 3 flights). Mornings and returning from work are happy to see me. We also have a friend staying with us that will help if needed. I've put in for some leave during a couple weeks during/after her due date.

Hope all of your pups are doing well.

jaydoubledub · 09-09-2013, 06:36 PM

I noticed a couple comments above about selling the pups. I have no expectations of making a profit from Shy. I would rather give them away to a family that's loving, capable, and that I interview with a "warm and fuzzy" feeling afterwards than to make money from someone I haven't even met. No offense, I would not even sell one online to anyone on this site. I would really have to meet someone or have a way to confirm the person's personality. And I would not give away or sell a puppy without spaying/neutering.

jaydoubledub · 09-09-2013, 06:52 PM

Oh, and I meant day 43... today is day 45.

nanahas3 · 09-09-2013, 06:56 PM

Thanks for the update. Praying Shy makes it through it all safely.

lovespandp · 09-10-2013, 12:37 PM

Thank you so much for the update. I’m glad to hear Shy is doing well. I will be sending prayers and good thoughts for her well being, as well as the puppies.

08-21-2013, 01:05 PM	#76
lovespandp ♥Momma's Bambino♥ Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ca Posts: 10,026	OP, Look I apologize that some of us ( myself included) have came on strong. I know we are all worried about Shy’s safety. I know there are ways to go about things, but it is so much easier said than done.. especially if it is something we hold dear to our hearts. Our passion tends to just come out and it gets the best of us. I apologize- non of us want you to think we don't want you here. Non of us want you to think you are alienated. All of us here are glad to have you as a member, we are glad you came to YT asking the questions you did. Not a lot of people would do that. A lot of the members/ breeders have seen horrible things happen, losing their bitch, losing puppies, sickness getting to the puppies, parvo.. etc. I know that is not something they would want to happen to you. Breeding is not an easy thing to do, it takes a toll on your emotions. It is also very expensive, especially with Yorkies. I know your reasons of Shy having puppies are innocent, but please look at the other side to this. You really need to ask yourself can you do this.. it is not by any means going to be easy. YT has many breeders, pick a couple and talk to them one on one. They will tell you stories that will make you want to run Shy to the Vet and have an emergency spay. It takes a very special person to breed. Please, please think about this, think about Shy most importantly. Think about the dangers that can happen to her. Without the resources, funds, mentor, Vet on call.. etc. etc you’re not going to be able to do this successfully. Please just come back and talk to us, we will all be on our best behavior ( myself included). We are getting nowhere and our time is running out. I ask you from the bottom of my heart ( For Shy’s sake) to please think of what you are doing before it gets too late. __________________ "People with nothing to hide don't usually feel the need to say so."

08-21-2013, 02:00 PM	#79
lynzy420 Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: USA Posts: 7,652	Ya know what bothers me more? The couple of members here that breed for the same reasons...NO GOOD REASON and call themselves a breeder...Why, because they know better....but like this guy they choose not to listen....they put their pups in danger every freaking time they breed... __________________ The Above advice/comments/reviews are my personal opinions based on my own experience/education/investigation and research and you can take them any way you want to......Or NOT!!!

08-21-2013, 02:17 PM	#81
lynzy420 Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: USA Posts: 7,652	Just to clarify....I'm talking about the self proclaimed "BREEDERS" who don't do proper health testing, breed mixed breeds and do not breed to standard...and cut corners...a.k.a. byb's....blah, blah, blah..... THEY ARE MEMBERS AND KNOW BETTER...AND I keep HOPING they learn...but they don't....This bothers me even more than these "breeders".... __________________ The Above advice/comments/reviews are my personal opinions based on my own experience/education/investigation and research and you can take them any way you want to......Or NOT!!!

08-21-2013, 02:20 PM	#82
normarae63 Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Ocala Florida Posts: 4,130 Blog Entries: 1	Bleh...I timed out. OP- I hope for your girl's sake, you can find a decent mentor or that your vet is able & willing to assist. PLEASE, learn all you can in the meantime, her life very well may depend on it. __________________ Sherry Owned by Tuffy & Bella Visit my SHOP: SherrysPetStuff or on Etsy. Fun on Facebook

09-09-2013, 06:27 PM	#86
jaydoubledub Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 91	Hey folks, I'm not on to read the critics, but, to simply give an update to the ones who care... Shy has been to the vet twice since I posted last. Her first visit was meant to get xrays, but, it turned out to be too soon. We got her some more blood work and it came back healthy. After another week and a half or so, we went back in at day 45 (two days ago) and poised the question to her vet again, "do you really think she's healthy enough to have the pups? Should we terminate and have her spayed?" She told me she is a healthy 6lbs and she has no reason as to why she shouldn't have them. She made me reminded me that smaller breeds tend to need cesareans, especially if there is not many pups and that Shy could be in the same boat. THEN she asked me what I wanted to do. I told her that I wanted her to be healthy, no matter what. Even if she thought we should terminate. I was told she should be fine and we took measures to make sure her cesarean (if needed) could be setup in a hurry as well as her spay after she delivers. We setup the "worst case scenario" prices and made arrangements accordingly. I have her an appointment this Sunday, for an xray, to find out how many she'll have. We've also made sure to get ready for her pups to be put on a wellness plan with spay/neuter. Well, there you have it. She's doing well, giving lots of puppy kisses, still has some energy and takes the stairs with me to use the restroom (though I go slow and we take the elevator up instead of her climbing 3 flights). Mornings and returning from work are happy to see me. We also have a friend staying with us that will help if needed. I've put in for some leave during a couple weeks during/after her due date. Hope all of your pups are doing well. Last edited by jaydoubledub; 09-09-2013 at 06:29 PM.

09-09-2013, 06:36 PM	#87
jaydoubledub Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 91	I noticed a couple comments above about selling the pups. I have no expectations of making a profit from Shy. I would rather give them away to a family that's loving, capable, and that I interview with a "warm and fuzzy" feeling afterwards than to make money from someone I haven't even met. No offense, I would not even sell one online to anyone on this site. I would really have to meet someone or have a way to confirm the person's personality. And I would not give away or sell a puppy without spaying/neutering.

09-09-2013, 06:52 PM	#88
jaydoubledub Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 91	Oh, and I meant day 43... today is day 45.

09-09-2013, 06:56 PM	#89
nanahas3 ♥Love My Snuggle Bugs♥ Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Missouri Posts: 4,290	Thanks for the update. Praying Shy makes it through it all safely. __________________ *CharleneMama to Laddy and Kyra and Always in our hearts Lolita*

09-10-2013, 12:37 PM	#90
lovespandp ♥Momma's Bambino♥ Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ca Posts: 10,026	Thank you so much for the update. I’m glad to hear Shy is doing well. I will be sending prayers and good thoughts for her well being, as well as the puppies. __________________ "People with nothing to hide don't usually feel the need to say so."