question.

[abbey46923]

Originally Posted by archonis

If its truly pure then that should not be a issue. It will always look like a yorkie. The problem is everyone is trying to meet standerd n you have byb killing the lines for money

Even if you have just one breeding you will be a byb yourself.

[archonis]

What is the difference between a backyard breeder. Puppymill, And a true breeder? Nevermind don't answer that! Let's not stereotype.

[MyLilMimi]

But that is not true not all pure yorkies look like yorkies. Your stuck on hating the standard and missing the other facts.

Originally Posted by archonis

Has nothing to do with hating the standerds and I don't hate them. I just don't like ppl thinking they have to breed by them. I can tell you why but that's another story. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it must be a duck. That's all I'm saying. Even if they where pure, what happen to the love of the breed?

WOW!! I was going to say... I read back through and never saw anywhere where you said you Hated the standard!?


You came to the right section... The breeding forum for your questions. If I were you I would listen most to the advice of your Vet or an actual Breeder and you don't have to explain yourself to anybody as to why you want to do it. It's really nobody's business.

[archonis]

Its all good. Nothing wrong with a good ol. Debt

[brezofleur]

Originally Posted by MyLilMimi

You came to the right section... The breeding forum for your questions. If I were you I would listen most to the advice of your Vet or an actual Breeder and you don't have to explain yourself to anybody as to why you want to do it. It's really nobody's business.

I know that you are new, but many of that have posted here ARE actual breeders.

[MandiesMom]

As a passer-by to this thread and after reading every single post, I would just like to say a few things and then I'll be on my way.

First, breeding to standard IS what is good for the dog. The standard is set for various reasons (yes looks are a big part of that) but also for health reasons.

Second, you say more or less "why not breed pure Yorkies even if they don't look like pure Yorkies?" Same reason I wouldn't breed certain people together. Sure, they are both pure humans, but come on! Not all humans are meant to reproduce

Third, you have asked your question in a forum that is dedicated to promoting the best for the breed of Yorkshire Terrier. You have received answers from some well educated and veteran members of this community. More importantly, you have received answers from several breeders. (And, no need to stereo type..there is a HUGE difference between a BYB, a puppy mill, and a trained, educated, and TIME TESTED breeder - to compare a breeder who has paid his/her dues, put in blood sweat and tears, worked with mentors for years, and know more of the breed than most of us even knows exists is not only insulting but just ignorant. No, not stupid. Ignorant. There is a difference.)

You seem to be choosing to engage in the responses you are getting from a couple of people who have been on this forum for less than a month instead of listening to the valuable tips and advice given to you by experienced breeders. This tells me that you don't want an answer that is honest. You want an answer that tells you it is ok to do what you want to do.

I am truly very sorry for the loss of your ex. And I can totally and completely understand why you want to carry on her beloved Mollie's line. What I do not understand is why you fail to answer TWO replies to this thread suggesting you go back to the breeder Mollie came from and see about getting another pup or two from that line. Have you considered this or are you just determined to breed Mollie? I think it's a valid question. I have no reason to be defensive and no one else here does either, to be honest. Not sure why that was said. So, I'll turn it around on you - please don't be defensive and please let us know why it has to be Mollie that has the pups if it is Mollie's line you are interested in?

I wish you nothing but a great life with Mollie. I trust you want what is best for Mollie. Please take the advice you've received throughout this thread and be descerning in what you take and what you discard. It'd be like me getting a diagnosis from the top specialist in the field of cardiology but going to a walk-in clinic for a 2nd opinion. And deciding the 2nd opinion goes along with what I thought to begin with based on WebMd so I'll go with that.

[brezofleur]

Very good response, Terri

[rubynrosie]

b:[QUOTE=MandiesMom;4163283]As a passer-by to this thread and after reading every single post, I would just like to say a few things and then I'll be on my way.

First, breeding to standard IS what is good for the dog. The standard is set for various reasons (yes looks are a big part of that) but also for health reasons.

Second, you say more or less "why not breed pure Yorkies even if they don't look like pure Yorkies?" Same reason I wouldn't breed certain people together. Sure, they are both pure humans, but come on! Not all humans are meant to reproduce

Third, you have asked your question in a forum that is dedicated to promoting the best for the breed of Yorkshire Terrier. You have received answers from some well educated and veteran members of this community. More importantly, you have received answers from several breeders. (And, no need to stereo type..there is a HUGE difference between a BYB, a puppy mill, and a trained, educated, and TIME TESTED breeder - to compare a breeder who has paid his/her dues, put in blood sweat and tears, worked with mentors for years, and know more of the breed than most of us even knows exists is not only insulting but just ignorant. No, not stupid. Ignorant. There is a difference.)

You seem to be choosing to engage in the responses you are getting from a couple of people who have been on this forum for less than a month instead of listening to the valuable tips and advice given to you by experienced breeders. This tells me that you don't want an answer that is honest. You want an answer that tells you it is ok to do what you want to do.

I am truly very sorry for the loss of your ex. And I can totally and completely understand why you want to carry on her beloved Mollie's line. What I do not understand is why you fail to answer TWO replies to this thread suggesting you go back to the breeder Mollie came from and see about getting another pup or two from that line. Have you considered this or are you just determined to breed Mollie? I think it's a valid question. I have no reason to be defensive and no one else here does either, to be honest. Not sure why that was said. So, I'll turn it around on you - please don't be defensive and please let us know why it has to be Mollie that has the pups if it is Mollie's line you are interested in?

I wish you nothing but a great life with Mollie. I trust you want what is best for Mollie. Please take the advice you've received throughout this thread and be descerning in what you take and what you discard. It'd be like me getting a diagnosis from the top specialist in the field of cardiology but going to a walk-in clinic for a 2nd opinion. And deciding the 2nd opinion goes along with what I thought to begin with sed on WebMd so I'll go with that. :

Very well said.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by MandiesMom

As a passer-by to this thread and after reading every single post, I would just like to say a few things and then I'll be on my way.

First, breeding to standard IS what is good for the dog. The standard is set for various reasons (yes looks are a big part of that) but also for health reasons.

Second, you say more or less "why not breed pure Yorkies even if they don't look like pure Yorkies?" Same reason I wouldn't breed certain people together. Sure, they are both pure humans, but come on! Not all humans are meant to reproduce

Third, you have asked your question in a forum that is dedicated to promoting the best for the breed of Yorkshire Terrier. You have received answers from some well educated and veteran members of this community. More importantly, you have received answers from several breeders. (And, no need to stereo type..there is a HUGE difference between a BYB, a puppy mill, and a trained, educated, and TIME TESTED breeder - to compare a breeder who has paid his/her dues, put in blood sweat and tears, worked with mentors for years, and know more of the breed than most of us even knows exists is not only insulting but just ignorant. No, not stupid. Ignorant. There is a difference.)

You seem to be choosing to engage in the responses you are getting from a couple of people who have been on this forum for less than a month instead of listening to the valuable tips and advice given to you by experienced breeders. This tells me that you don't want an answer that is honest. You want an answer that tells you it is ok to do what you want to do.

I am truly very sorry for the loss of your ex. And I can totally and completely understand why you want to carry on her beloved Mollie's line. What I do not understand is why you fail to answer TWO replies to this thread suggesting you go back to the breeder Mollie came from and see about getting another pup or two from that line. Have you considered this or are you just determined to breed Mollie? I think it's a valid question. I have no reason to be defensive and no one else here does either, to be honest. Not sure why that was said. So, I'll turn it around on you - please don't be defensive and please let us know why it has to be Mollie that has the pups if it is Mollie's line you are interested in?

I wish you nothing but a great life with Mollie. I trust you want what is best for Mollie. Please take the advice you've received throughout this thread and be descerning in what you take and what you discard. It'd be like me getting a diagnosis from the top specialist in the field of cardiology but going to a walk-in clinic for a 2nd opinion. And deciding the 2nd opinion goes along with what I thought to begin with based on WebMd so I'll go with that.

great post!

[archonis]

First, I never said I didnt take the advise from other long term members. I have. There has been some post where I even said think you. You must have missed those :-)

The long thread was started based on a debte. I have made nothing but valid points. Please look past standerds in creating the perfect yorkie. (hitler tried this)

We all made good points. some agree and some disagree but lets remember not to play god.

It is all in the history ;-) Smaller yorkies have more health problems. look outside of the box. Pure is pure and if its pure and you can be prue no one should tell you not to breed it.

Originally Posted by MandiesMom

As a passer-by to this thread and after reading every single post, I would just like to say a few things and then I'll be on my way.

First, breeding to standard IS what is good for the dog. The standard is set for various reasons (yes looks are a big part of that) but also for health reasons.

Second, you say more or less "why not breed pure Yorkies even if they don't look like pure Yorkies?" Same reason I wouldn't breed certain people together. Sure, they are both pure humans, but come on! Not all humans are meant to reproduce

Third, you have asked your question in a forum that is dedicated to promoting the best for the breed of Yorkshire Terrier. You have received answers from some well educated and veteran members of this community. More importantly, you have received answers from several breeders. (And, no need to stereo type..there is a HUGE difference between a BYB, a puppy mill, and a trained, educated, and TIME TESTED breeder - to compare a breeder who has paid his/her dues, put in blood sweat and tears, worked with mentors for years, and know more of the breed than most of us even knows exists is not only insulting but just ignorant. No, not stupid. Ignorant. There is a difference.)

You seem to be choosing to engage in the responses you are getting from a couple of people who have been on this forum for less than a month instead of listening to the valuable tips and advice given to you by experienced breeders. This tells me that you don't want an answer that is honest. You want an answer that tells you it is ok to do what you want to do.

I am truly very sorry for the loss of your ex. And I can totally and completely understand why you want to carry on her beloved Mollie's line. What I do not understand is why you fail to answer TWO replies to this thread suggesting you go back to the breeder Mollie came from and see about getting another pup or two from that line. Have you considered this or are you just determined to breed Mollie? I think it's a valid question. I have no reason to be defensive and no one else here does either, to be honest. Not sure why that was said. So, I'll turn it around on you - please don't be defensive and please let us know why it has to be Mollie that has the pups if it is Mollie's line you are interested in?

I wish you nothing but a great life with Mollie. I trust you want what is best for Mollie. Please take the advice you've received throughout this thread and be descerning in what you take and what you discard. It'd be like me getting a diagnosis from the top specialist in the field of cardiology but going to a walk-in clinic for a 2nd opinion. And deciding the 2nd opinion goes along with what I thought to begin with based on WebMd so I'll go with that.

[archonis]

"What I do not understand is why you fail to answer TWO replies to this thread suggesting you go back to the breeder Mollie came from and see about getting another pup or two from that line. Have you considered this or are you just determined to breed Mollie?"

I have considered this but not a option. No im not determined to breed her. Im more 50\50 and unsure becuase i do not want to put her at risk.

I have a very logical man and a huge history buff. I love research and i what i do for a living. :- )

[archonis]

Sorry but I left this thread be but no one has the right to call me a BYB -Lovetodream88

I though places like this was to talk offer recomdations and why not just your this and no.

[MyLilMimi]

Originally Posted by brezofleur

I know that you are new, but many of that have posted here ARE actual breeders.

Ummmm I Know That!!
But there are some that are posting over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over that ARE NOT!!

[MyLilMimi]

Originally Posted by brezofleur

I know that you are new, but many of that have posted here ARE actual breeders.

Which is why I suggested he listen to his Vet or an actual "Breeder" .
Should have said: Listen to your Vet or the actual Breeders posting on this thread...

[archonis]

Originally Posted by archonis

Sorry but I left this thread be but no one has the right to call me a BYB -Lovetodream88

I though places like this was to talk offer recomdations and why not just your this and no.

repost to correct grammer.

I though places like this was to talk and offer recomdations and not just no you cant without saying why. Post of the post are conversations, some agree and some dont.