Is My Yorkie Pregnant?

[TreasuresIsland]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

You know, I was actually rather impressed with your response until I got to this part.

Please, do not insinuate that your dog would suffer emotionally if she had an emergency spay or suggest that those who are well researched and with loads of experience in this area gave you poor advice, have unfounded concerns over inbreeding and that they are the ones in need of proper research. That's just insulting and nothing more than an unnecessary attempt to justify your decision.

I think maybe i was misunderstood or properly did not express myself the way needed. My post was not meant to insult anyone on here as many of you are way more experienced in breeding/whelping then I period. My post was not meant to try and knock the knowledge of you breeders/ experienced whelpers when I stated about research on inbreeding. I simply meant further research would be good and a great source of need to know for some who were possibly unaware about the less chances of the pups being born to first time inbreeding that was all. When I stated as far as the emergency spay, I was only expressing my feelings on some who mentioned to do an emergency spay that was all. I never said that anyone gave me poor advice at all. One's opinions is ones opinions and where most of you who did suggest an emergency spay feel or felt that it should be done, i took another route and will only hope that I will not be bashed in any way for my decision making of allowing her to have her pups. I am extremely new to the breeding world and I personally do not consider this a beginning in my possible wants of wanting to breed either considering the circumstances,but at the end of the day I have chose to be there for her as I feel that it is the right thing to do however please do not mistake me for some person who doesnt care for her or her pups and would have chosen to keep them either way, as I would have chosen to terminate pups if truly and seriously necessary and advice from the vet. Again, apologies if offense was taken as that was far indeed from my intentions. Also, I will be having vet on call as well as an experienced breeder whom i have been chatting with in my area and is willing to come to my home once Treasure goes into labor. So hopefully this will be a great way to experience my first dog labor and delivery experience and god willing hope that all goes well for Treasure and pups. I have to say I am looking forward to this experience. Treasure is just so active still and also she will not take to her whelping box either. She runs around the house half the night sniffing like a mad girl which I will assume she is looking for a nesting place. I have given her free roam of my walk in closet the bathroom and a corner in my room all where I have placed the whelping box. I have even confined her to the bathroom with whelping box in there with no success and I am unsure how to get her used to her whelping box at all. I have even used a blanket that carries her scent on it with no avail. I do not know what to do. And her eating habits are very minimum. She nip picks her food here and there but to me it seems like she isn't consuming enough. Could it be all in my head? As I also stated i before, I have been also giving her cottage cheese 2 times a day...

[felicity1008]

God bless you and your decisions about your Treasure.
No one is better to give you advice but your vet. Your vet saw your bitch and will be able to give good advice to you. I have close friends that are vets and was on the phone with me though my whelps. Their advice is golden, they are Dr's. It sounds like treasure is getting close to her whelp date especially if you can feel the pups moving, around 10 days before whelping. The temperature method works wonders . Ask your vet and do research. My one girls temp was normally 99.8 and she dropped to about 98.7 24 hours prior and then 98 12 hours prior. My other's normal temp was 101 she dropped to about 99 and fluctuated for a day and 1/2 before whelping. Neither one pushed at all for long. Keep a careful eye on her. you will need to help with the whelp and have supplies on hand. Im a novice breeder. We breed horses so whelping pups is easy.

[Rachael x]

This is a pretty messy situation.
You have made your choice and I must agree it was a very hard choice to have to make.
I wish you luck with the birth.

[BamaFan121s]

It always make me cringe when I see people with very....questionable....breeding ethics jumping in to encourage people and give them breeding advice. Often times people who shouldn't be breeding in the first place, much less advising others on how to do it!

A word of good general advice: Be very aware of who you are taking your advice from, be it owner, breeder or vet.

[cally930]

I must say, after being on YT for awhile now and reading every single post (I think) and from talking and asking my vet lots of questions, I have come to the conclusion that the breeders here on YT know a lot more than my vet - ON BREEDING.

This is probably a very exciting time for you - expecting your first litter - but when you have questions on breeding, my advice would be to ask it here on YT. You will definitely get more knowledge and insight from people who breed these tiny toy breeds - and your vet does not.

Good luck to you. I wish you a quick and easy whelp - and happy and health puppies.

[felicity1008]

Is there a degree in Breeding??? just wondering? I never knew there was.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by cally930

I must say, after being on YT for awhile now and reading every single post (I think) and from talking and asking my vet lots of questions, I have come to the conclusion that the breeders here on YT know a lot more than my vet - ON BREEDING.

This is probably a very exciting time for you - expecting your first litter - but when you have questions on breeding, my advice would be to ask it here on YT. You will definitely get more knowledge and insight from people who breed these tiny toy breeds - and your vet does not.

I could not agree with you more! That is not to discredit or undermind what a vet advises, but there is a certain area of experience and knowledge in regards to SPECIFICALLY Yorkies that an experienced breeder provide you with that a vet cannot. Vets have a very wide knowledge base on dogs in general...the basic textbook stuff. But think about it this way: We all realize how much sheer information and 'need to know' stuff there is out there on Yorkies alone. And we (as YTers/owners) know more than the next person because we immerse ourselves in the breed. That same amount of information and specifics is out there for every single breed of dog. Could you really expect a vet to have that kind of experience and knoweldge base for every single breed out there?

Again, great medical and overall textbook knowledge base, but more than likely, breeders working with Yorkies and Yorkies alone are going to be far more knowledgeable in other areas. Both vet AND mentor combined are really key.

[Rhetts_mama]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

I could not agree with you more! That is not to discredit or undermind what a vet advises, but there is a certain area of experience and knowledge in regards to SPECIFICALLY Yorkies that an experienced breeder provide you with that a vet cannot. Vets have a very wide knowledge base on dogs in general...the basic textbook stuff. But think about it this way: We all realize how much sheer information and 'need to know' stuff there is out there on Yorkies alone. And we (as YTers/owners) know more than the next person because we immerse ourselves in the breed. That same amount of information and specifics is out there for every single breed of dog. Could you really expect a vet to have that kind of experience and knoweldge base for every single breed out there?

Again, great medical and overall textbook knowledge base, but more than likely, breeders working with Yorkies and Yorkies alone are going to be far more knowledgeable in other areas. Both vet AND mentor combined are really key.

I'm always in awe of the knowledge the good breeders on this site have. There is nothing that beats hands on experience with a particular breed or situation. (We need to look no further than the majority of information given on diet by vets to see that their knowledge is that of a GP and not a specialist. Vaccine protocols, too.)

[TreasuresIsland]

Originally Posted by felicity1008

Is there a degree in Breeding??? just wondering? I never knew there was.

Exactly! I respect breeders information but it is sad how they talk as if a degree is needed to know the info they have! For the need to know info to Bama and the rest who agreed with her post, I chose the vet I chose because my vet bred small breed dogs and golden retrievers and one of those small breed dogs were yorkshire terriers, so yes, I would definitely take the advice of my vet. All breeders are not always right. That is why yes Bama, I do agree with be careful who you ask and take advice from that goes along way. Everyone will continue to have their opinions but regardless of my noviceness of breeding whelping or whatever I take great pride of doing my research thoroughly on all the breeds I adopt before adopting. As I stated, I have 6 dogs, akita mix, Siberian Husky, 2 yorkies(newest to the family) a shorkie and a pomeranian and I love all of my pets and strive to know as much as I need to and more. I couldnt agree with Felicity more there is no degree on breeding so at the end of the day most info is based off "textbook reading" and most on hands on experience and i definitely agree that hands on is the best knowledge to have but please do not knock me down based off my decision because it is an inbreeding whelping and do not under estimate my knowledge either. My main goal coming on YT was to find out what other breeders thought about the information leading to finding out if my female was pregnant not to feel like i was being bashed because her brother and her mated etc. One way or another inbreeding has been done in the yrs and instead of knocking an innocent mistake that was no doing of mine keep in mind that their are other people who inbreed purposely and probably a few on YT themselves do it as well. yes, yes, its been said it is for the experienced breeders who know what they are doing, but again this was not my fault that they mated it was the previous owners fault and I did decide to let her have her litter so how about a few words of encouragement and true breeding/whelping knowledge to help out instead of bashing because that is how i feel from Bama... again thanks to all those who had kind words and great advice and did not make me feel guilty or knock me for letting my Treasure have her litter.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by felicity1008

Is there a degree in Breeding??? just wondering? I never knew there was.

I certainly hope not. The day a they require and exam for that, there are a whole lot of people out there breeding who would fail!

Originally Posted by TreasuresIsland

I chose the vet I chose because my vet bred small breed dogs and golden retrievers and one of those small breed dogs were yorkshire terriers, so yes, I would definitely take the advice of my vet. That is why yes Bama, I do agree with be careful who you ask and take advice from that goes along way. I couldnt agree with Felicity more there is no degree on breeding so at the end of the day most info is based off "textbook reading" and most on hands on experience and i definitely agree that hands on is the best knowledge to have

I am sorry, you misunderstood. I was not criticizing you decision to work with YOUR vet in the least bit. I believe that both you and your vet have gone above and beyond what most in you situation would.
Please reread my comment about being cautious who you were taking advice from: It always make me cringe when I see people with very....questionable....breeding ethics jumping in to encourage people and give them breeding advice. Often times people who shouldn't be breeding in the first place, much less advising others on how to do it! It wasn't really about just vets, or your vet in particular.
Also, I believe the comment about the degree was meant to insinuate that vets are a better source for info because they have degrees and breeders don't. Of course, a large part of breeding requires plain old common sense--which no degree can give you and which many people seriously lack.

[felicity1008]

Bravo Treasure for being PROLIFE! You post a question and expect a answer and support. Some people go way off topic from the question. Take the answers and knowledge you need for your situation, and ignore the rest if its against your beliefs. I am sure the pups will turn out fine.
God Bless and healthy whelping.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by felicity1008

Bravo Treasure for being PROLIFE!

You do realize these are dogs, right? I believe that debate is one reserved for the human world. It's not a debate about "beliefs." Just sayin...

I believe in regards to the OP, she has gotten lots of support and answers. I don't see where anyone is criticizing her. And unlike many people are willing to do, she seemed to have considered ALL advice and made the decision she felt was best.

[felicity1008]

i pity you. the op certainly made her decision which was best for her and no one else.

[Disney]

Originally Posted by felicity1008

there is no debate!!!! its the OP decision not anyone elses. mind your business

She ask for help on public forum therefore Bama does NOT have to 'mind her business.'

Please do not use term 'prolife' in regard to animals. Prolife is human term. Doggie can't decide whether she believes life begin at conception!

[Rhetts_mama]

Originally Posted by felicity1008

there is no debate!!!! its the OP decision not anyone elses. mind your business

What's good for the goose...