Does anyone know anything about Nikis2 aka Bonnie Johnson?

[MlssOcean]

My fiance and I are from NJ and have been contacting breeders about getting a yorkie puppy. They're prices have been extremely high and out of price range ($1800-$2500) We want to be sure to get our new 'family member' from a reputable breeder, but we are not showing our dog. We just want a healthy happy puppy that will live a long healthy/happy life. I think the reason their prices are so high is because they are all show dogs that they are breeding.

I met Bonnie Johnson (Nikis2) through this forum. She has three dogs that are pregnant now and told me she would notify me when the pups were born. She seemed very knowledgeable. She also said when the puppies are ready, we can go and see them and meet mom, grandmom, and great grandmom.

We just wanted to know if anyone has worked with her or knows anything about her? Thank you so much!

[2Morkies]

I think I've heard that she is one of the "good one's" that is a "go to" person for help, puppies or anything else....I believe she is reputable.
Good Luck finding your furbaby

[Elle]

Originally Posted by MlssOcean

My fiance and I are from NJ and have been contacting breeders about getting a yorkie puppy. They're prices have been extremely high and out of price range ($1800-$2500) We want to be sure to get our new 'family member' from a reputable breeder, but we are not showing our dog. We just want a healthy happy puppy that will live a long healthy/happy life. I think the reason their prices are so high is because they are all show dogs that they are breeding.

I met Bonnie Johnson (Nikis2) through this forum. She has three dogs that are pregnant now and told me she would notify me when the pups were born. She seemed very knowledgeable. She also said when the puppies are ready, we can go and see them and meet mom, grandmom, and great grandmom.

We just wanted to know if anyone has worked with her or knows anything about her? Thank you so much!

I'd contact Steve Glass for the best referral in that area. He won't sugar coat anything and he doesn't benefit in any regard. If you have a great home, you should be able to find a nice pet on for much less now, show home or not!

Personally, I don't like having three liters at one time. IMO that's not about betterment of the breed. It's just me, I like to give lots of hands on attention. I realize there is a supply demand and if this breeder is great, I take it back. I've never heard of her. Either way, go to Steve's website and email him asking him for your referral. If you only want a YTCA, he'll let you know that as well. It's www.yorkies.com He doesn't tell people where his come from, he isn't promoting anyone.

[MlssOcean]

Great!! Thank you so much for your help!!

[magicgenie]

I think $1800-$2200 is about right for an excellent quality pet puppy in this region. You should question someone very carefully if their price is a lot less than that. Saving up your money and going for top quality breeding is usually worth it.
I know Steve Glass did a lot of wonderful work to call attention to liver shunt and to advance research and treatment. He has shown extraordinary dedication to the breed. However, I find his breeder directory to be out-of-date and his criteria for accepting listings unfair. I've heard various things, including that he only accepts YTCA member who bile acid test their puppies. Be careful about leaning too heavily on one source of advice or information, and don't be shy about asking a breeder for references from their vet, several happy customers, and even other breeders.
Good luck!!!

[satman]

While my web site may be slightly out of date as the result of my waiting for a heart transplant and not being as active in the show circuit as I have been in the past, those that continue to be listed on my web site are no less reputable than they were previously. Just the fact that they're still breeding gives them, if nothing else, more experience than those that have popped up since Yorkies became so popular in the last several years. Popularity of a breed always brings with it unscrupulous breeders that are more concerned with the income the puppies produce rather than the quality and health of the puppies.

Since I've been so sick I have added very few new breeders because of my inability to check the voracity of the information required to honor their request to be added. Nobody is added until I'm able to check their references and contact their vet and others that can verify the info they've submitted to me. I've also prominently placed a statement on each breeder page that says: NOTE !!! Currently I'm not accepting any additional breeder listings... Once my health improved that may change but not now. If I get an inquiry about someone not listed I'll do my best to research the breeder and email them with what I was able to find.

YES, I'm a YTCA member and proud of it, but that has never and will never be only criteria I use for adding a reference to a breeder. I could make reference to several that ARE listed that are not YTCA members but instead of me taking on this monumental task I'll just refer to Ana Diaz, a Police Officer in Worcester, MA, who is just a hobby breeder. I could also list some YTCA members I've removed because of unethical or dishonest behavior. My web site started long before I became a YTCA member!!! I think I'm one of just a few YTCA members that doesn't breed, doesn't show, and doesn't sell Yorkies and I never have! My only concern is for the love of the breed, to weed out uncrupulous breeders, promote Yorkie health, and inform those looking to adopt a healthy Yorkie puppy.

I also take exception to anyone who denigrates my intent and then puts up a web site that takes money for advertising breeders such as:

"YTCEHB, respect for differences, ethics without politics
www.yorkshireterrierclub.com"

I've never taken one cent from any breeder for space on my web site. I've refused all money offered for any advertising on my web site. Links for products on my links page are only for products that I actually use!!!

Originally my web site was on Geocities servers until the ads for puppies impinged on the purpose for my web site. At that time I PAID for server space that insures there will be NO advertising. That holds true for my Yorkies.com, Livershunt.net, and Camelot Yorkies Web Ring and my weekly Yorkies Chat Room on Tuesday nights.. I always remain available to answer questions and anyone can contact me directly, at any time by going to any page on my web site and clicking on the "Contact ME" button or using the following link http://yorkies.us/home/indexpage.html

Originally Posted by magicgenie

I think $1800-$2200 is about right for an excellent quality pet puppy in this region. You should question someone very carefully if their price is a lot less than that. Saving up your money and going for top quality breeding is usually worth it.
I know Steve Glass did a lot of wonderful work to call attention to liver shunt and to advance research and treatment. He has shown extraordinary dedication to the breed. However, I find his breeder directory to be out-of-date and his criteria for accepting listings unfair. I've heard various things, including that he only accepts YTCA member who bile acid test their puppies. Be careful about leaning too heavily on one source of advice or information, and don't be shy about asking a breeder for references from their vet, several happy customers, and even other breeders.
Good luck!!!

[magicgenie]

Yorkshire Terrier Club of Ethical Hobby Breeders is 100% paid for privately as well. We sell no advertising whatsoever, nor is there a charge for a listing. We have a comprehensive code of ethics and behavior and compliance with it is the only absolute requirement for membership. NO MONEY IS REQUIRED, however we will not refuse donations to be spent on advancement of the club and its purpose of promoting sound, ethical breeding practice.

Sheesh, I only came on here to offer commonsense advice to someone looking for a breeder. Bottom line, ask more than one person's advice.
Have a nice day.

[satman]

Marsha,

I must be missing something since your web site links are replete with places for ads. (see attachment) And if I'm reading correctly, you must be a member to have a breeder listing. Your site goes on to say: " Occasionally, someone may slip through the cracks and become an advertiser or will be listed here, only to find out they do not comply to the standards according to this club." Who's standards? Your's, the AKC or the parent club YTCA?

And I assume you have no objection to Parti Colored Yorkies since they are shown on your site as available to buy. They certainly are cute dogs but they have no place being promoted by those that espouse their concern for the Yorkshire Terrier Breed. They can be AKC registered since a litter at birth does not always display coloring that strays from the standard but they can not be shown in any AKC sanctioned conformation show. Ethical Yorkie breeders don't intentionally breed dogs that won't comply with the AKC/YTCA standard.

Common sense differs from due diligence.

I frequently get an email from the people that run YorkieTalk saying they miss my participation. It goes against my personal feelings to support any forum that heads their pages with advertising for Puppymills and those selling so called TEACUP Yorkies etc. I responded to an email sent to me that you posted. Othewrwise I stay away from YorkieTalk for the reasons I stated.

Originally Posted by magicgenie

Yorkshire Terrier Club of Ethical Hobby Breeders is 100% paid for privately as well. We sell no advertising whatsoever, nor is there a charge for a listing. We have a comprehensive code of ethics and behavior and compliance with it is the only absolute requirement for membership. NO MONEY IS REQUIRED, however we will not refuse donations to be spent on advancement of the club and its purpose of promoting sound, ethical breeding practice.

Sheesh, I only came on here to offer commonsense advice to someone looking for a breeder. Bottom line, ask more than one person's advice.
Have a nice day.

[magicgenie]

Marsha isn't on YT, she doesn't like it here. I'm Susan, aka Magicgenie. I like to check in on YT from time to time, commenting occasionally on things I find interesting. Marsha Pressley formed YTCEHB last year to give responsible breeders a place to organize, get listed, show off their dogs. I've been communicating with her about this for some time and have now, along with a couple of other members, taken on a more active role in promoting Marsha's idea for this club. So far Marsha has paid for 100% of everything to get this club started, and I am now coming in with a significant investment. The only thing we require of members is strict adherence to the code of ethics. We realize the composition and wording on the web site needs some polishing up, but we'll get to it. Most people visiting the site are intelligent enough to understand the good intentions behind it. Again, all we want is to promote and reward good breeding practice.
I'm not addressing the question of color as too controversial. If someone likes Parti color Yorkies and there is no health issue with breeding it, it's fine with me.
Marsha will be happy to answer your question directly by phone or email.

[satman]

Susan,

Sorry for the name mixup. Since your signature line referred to Marsha's site I assumed it was Marsha.

We can agree to disagree on many points. Color IS controversial but there is no denying the standard would disqualify a muli-colored Yorkie from competition. I'd also take issue with any breeder that promotes Parti Colored, Muliti colored or any other designer name that includes Yorkshire Terrier in its name.

Some day there may be AKC recognician of Beiwers Terriers but I doubt they'll ever be referred to as Beiwer Yorkshire Terriers. Parti or Multi colored Yorkies are an anomaly since the Yorkshire Terrier lacks the 'piebald' gene that results in white in a dog's coat. Reputable Yorkie breeders don't promote any coloring other than what the AKC lists in conjunction with the parent club (YTCA).

Any site that says its purpose is to promote the betterment of the Yorkshire Terrier breed should be true to its mandate without variation from the accepted AKC standard. The fact that Marsha's site includes them as a viable choice and offers them for sale is CONTRARY to the mission statement and is misleading to those that happen upon the site looking for reliable information.

For me this ends this the discussion since we have different views that can't be settled here.

Originally Posted by magicgenie

Marsha isn't on YT, she doesn't like it here. I'm Susan, aka Magicgenie. I like to check in on YT from time to time, commenting occasionally on things I find interesting. Marsha Pressley formed YTCEHB last year to give responsible breeders a place to organize, get listed, show off their dogs. I've been communicating with her about this for some time and have now, along with a couple of other members, taken on a more active role in promoting Marsha's idea for this club. So far Marsha has paid for 100% of everything to get this club started, and I am now coming in with a significant investment. The only thing we require of members is strict adherence to the code of ethics. We realize the composition and wording on the web site needs some polishing up, but we'll get to it. Most people visiting the site are intelligent enough to understand the good intentions behind it. Again, all we want is to promote and reward good breeding practice.
I'm not addressing the question of color as too controversial. If someone likes Parti color Yorkies and there is no health issue with breeding it, it's fine with me.
Marsha will be happy to answer your question directly by phone or email.