Originally Posted by tammy8833 (Post 3077752)

doesnt make me a bad breeder..just means i dont test then for genetic defects

Originally Posted by Golden Parti (Post 3077750)

Thank you for that post. Many people have left YT because they received the same treatment as you have gotten from a few people on here. Luckily their are many more helpful knowledgeable people on here who are willing to help you learn and figure out solutions. I don't mind sticking my neck out when I see this poor behavior from people. These people would never get a dog from me and their opinions of me matter very little. The praise I get from people who got pups from me and the compliments on my dogs from the vets who see them is more than enough.

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 3077744)

Not testing dogs before they are bred or testing the pups they produce? That...is scary.

Originally Posted by Golden Parti (Post 3077750)

These people would never get a dog from me

Originally Posted by livingdustmops (Post 3077756)

I would love to know what makes Golden Parti a good breeder...care to explain?

Originally Posted by motherhen (Post 3077739)

Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3077758)

Breeding dogs without testing for genetic defects?????????????

Originally Posted by tammy8833 (Post 3077764)

thats ur opinion
i have never had an issue with it...on either side..buying or selling and apparently alot of other people dont

i know the breeders are here are very careful on what they do and how they do it...but a lot of people just want the dog

they can do it full scale to a T and improving the breed and say their females never fight...(which extremely hard to believe..specially if they have multiple females with heats and pregnancies..i think its bull ) and thats wonderful for them and their program and clients and i mean that ..but i still dont think they are given a thrown and a crown for it ..doesnt mean everyone else that breeds good healthy puppies is dirt and thats what they basically feed everyone on here...

i respect their breeding program but respect should also be both ways...if you treat someone with respect you'll get it back

im sure the op will never come back why would she?

Originally Posted by tammy8833 (Post 3077735)

im not trying to make you feel bad or say you didnt get her out a bad situation but you still bought paid for a yorkie from someone that was truly a unethical breeder and when you did that you still supported them

how many times has that been posted on here

dont get the puppy at the store or the pm or the byb because you are still supporting them no matter how sad the puppy looks

Originally Posted by BellaDonna (Post 3077769)

I have never seen any breeder of any kind give away the puppies they breed except for my pet breeder who gave me a runt Chihuahua or older dogs they no longer breed etc. So it seems to me that all breeders sell their dogs and I don't believe for an instant that even the "Show breeders" don't make money. So if we are going to generalize I would say that all breeders make money from their puppies. If they didn't make money they couldn't continue to do it and spend all the money they do on the dogs.

I continue to come here mainly to find techniques on grooming etc for a Yorkie which is different than the dogs I have owned and cared for for 30 years. There are things I can learn here that will be helpful to me with Bella. I can also share my knowledge with others on this board. Just because I am new to the board doesn't mean I am in dire need of being led by the masters. We all have something to share here and we won't all ever agree on everything.

Just because some people are more vocal or talk louder doesn't make you right. This thread is just beating a dead horse. Just agree to disagree.

Originally Posted by Reese1 (Post 3077774)

I don't feel bad. Camden was probably on her way to a rescue group. The breeder ended up turning over some of her dogs to a very reputable rescue group shortly after this. One of which was Camden's Mom. She did this because supposedly she was going to stop breeding and I hope that she has!

Originally Posted by tammy8833 (Post 3077771)

yup it happens...even people that have tested have had pups with defects pop up...sure you eliminate that possibility by testing but it still happens and there are so many people out there that have healthy pups..from people that didnt test

mine have always been healthy nothing has ever come back sick and no testing

i dont look down upon someone for not testing..

Originally Posted by livingdustmops (Post 3077756)

I would love to know what makes Golden Parti a good breeder...care to explain?

Originally Posted by tammy8833 (Post 3077776)

thats a bad breeder..im glad your pup was lucky to find you

i would never do that anything i have to place i will do my self and investigate the new owners...love love love google

Originally Posted by tammy8833 (Post 3077768)

you all are so.....determined to push people out of yt..

whats makes YOU better then her?

Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 3077772)

No, it's not just an opinion. It is what you do when you are breeding correctly. You cover your basis to make sure you are breeding healthy dogs and producing healthy puppies.

Don't understand why you find it difficult to believe that there are breeders that have no problems in their kennels with their females and/or males....I'd really like you to tell the Lorraine Hayes, Dorren Hubbards and Roberta Rothenbach's (rest her soul) they are full of bull to their face.

Originally Posted by tammy8833 (Post 3077764)

thats ur opinion
i know the breeders are here are very careful on what they do and how they do it...but a lot of people just want the dog

Originally Posted by tammy8833 (Post 3077722)

i just have to disagree

i know you have done this longer and have tons of knowledge but this is almost standard

i have seen females get along perfect for years with pregnancy and heats and then one day they get into...i dont see wheres that an aggression issues at all...

hell i snap on people sometimes doesnt mean i have aggression issues or that my kids will...i know they arent people but i think its silly to not think they will never disagree and always get along as best buddies

Originally Posted by livingdustmops (Post 3077756)

I would love to know what makes Golden Parti a good breeder...care to explain?

Originally Posted by tammy8833 (Post 3077752)

doesnt make me a bad breeder..just means i dont test then for genetic defects

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 3077766)

You are right about that! :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by motherhen (Post 3077786)

He is a great breeder, because he cares for his dogs and puppies very much. He takes care of them on a personal level! He gives any information that you need on them, and willingly goes the extra mile. His dogs are not just in a building somewhere, that he checks in once in a while. He has a hands on with them at all times! You would be lucky to get one of his puppies!!!
With that being said, I have asked administation to close this thread, because it has become mean & nasty.

Originally Posted by tammy8833 (Post 3077710)

i think that comparison is wrong

that sounds more like show breeder and unethical breeder

i dont show but i have nice dogs that i breed and find great homes for
i am careful for which homes i choose and i have contracts and vet care ..etc... i think that chart in not accurate..i think it needs 3 selections

show breeder. hobby breeder. byb

but i am involved with rescue since i was 12
i am involved with the training and believe i am knowledgable in the breed
i offer breeder support..so even when the puppy leaves i will help with any concerns or problems that arrise
already stated i had references
already stated i do follow ups
contracts
waiting list sometimes
parents on site..all friendly and loving
gee im not doing too bad on that list...just something i choose not to do
i feed good food, that me and vet have chosen together
im a stay at home mom so i am always here with them
i dont even allow visitors so no need to wash hands...no visitors until they puppies have been vaccinated then i use hand santizer
keep my puppies with mom
raised with an active lively family
i match up puppies to customers
dont sell to impulse buyers...its planned out and prepared from birth almost
i interview and check references
careful of homes with children
i dont check income thats rude..if they can afford a yorkie most people are alright to care for it
my contract states these are indoor pets and i am persistent on that but never had a issue on it
my contract explains the time in adjusting, training and behaviors

so yeah im on the first i just dont show, test or check peoples income taxes

Originally Posted by Golden Parti (Post 3077789)

And I would never sell you a dog knowingly for any amount of money so I guess we never have to worry about that.

Originally Posted by tammy8833 (Post 3077776)

thats a bad breeder..im glad your pup was lucky to find you

i would never do that anything i have to place i will do my self and investigate the new owners...love love love google

Originally Posted by Golden Parti (Post 3077778)

My dogs receive the best medical care possible, dogs with defects are not bred. They are spoiled rotten and have everything they could ever want. I have even taken the money I get from my dogs that does not go for their care and medical and used it to rescue yorkies from bad environments and find them better homes. None of this will ever matter to you because I doubt any breeder is a good breeder in your opinion. Then there is the whole betterment of the breed issue. I work very hard to constantly improve the dogs I have and I provide to people. I however breed partis and off color yorkies so that of course makes me a bad breeder in the eyes of show breeders. My females are only bred a few times and then I put them in homes that with people I personally meet and go to before approving.
But again, there is nothing I could say or do to change the minds and opinions of some of the people on here.

Originally Posted by motherhen (Post 3077786)

He is a great breeder, because he cares for his dogs and puppies very much. He takes care of them on a personal level! He gives any information that you need on them, and willingly goes the extra mile. His dogs are not just in a building somewhere, that he checks in once in a while. He has a hands on with them at all times! You would be lucky to get one of his puppies!!!
With that being said, I have asked administation to close this thread, because it has become mean & nasty.