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yorkiegirl2 01-19-2010 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MyTrixie143 (Post 2961605)
So far we have 3 beautiful healthy babies, 2 girls and 1 boy. We are waiting to see if there is one more.
Destiny had a lot of trouble with her first puppy. She started passing a lot of green before the puppy was born and was having difficulty delivering. The puppy (girl) was 5 1/2ounces and came breach. The puppy got stuck and I had to pull her out. Luckily she made it and is doing just fine now.

The vet gave her an oxy shot to further things along and that really helped. She goes back in here in a few hours to make sure all the pups are out and all is well.

So we have:
1st puppy: Girl 5 1/2ounces
2nd puppy: Boy 5 1/2 ounces
3rd puppy: Girl 5 1/4 ounces

These are the biggest puppies Destiny's ever had. All her other pups were 4 ounces and under.

So all is well and turned out alright. Destiny's enjoying her pups right now.

Thanks everyone for your prayers, this has been a very long and difficult whelp.

Congrats on the new babies.
Nice healthy size weights.

JeanieK 01-19-2010 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by motherhen (Post 2963398)
That's weird, I put it in the title, but guess it didn't come through -- we get her Saturday. I just pray that the weather holds good like the weather report says. Sure don't want to go in a snow or ice storm!

I hope so too.

I see you are in Illinois. Iwas born and raised about 20 miles north of Freeport in Wisconsin.

luckylady 01-19-2010 08:29 PM

OMG Tammy.....................nothing yet??????:confused::eek:

I'll check back again in the morning.

kpstoybox 01-19-2010 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by luckylady (Post 2963920)
OMG Tammy.....................nothing yet??????:confused::eek:

I'll check back again in the morning.

Yea...I'm about to give up too. Will check in early in the morning too see if Livi gets down to buisness. :)

blancla 01-20-2010 03:13 AM

Tammy how is Livi this morning. Do you have any little ones to announce?

TammyJM 01-20-2010 03:28 AM

Nothing :( She woke us again this morning...same time as yesterday (5am) because she went under our bed. We took her out the the living room and now she is just sleeping away with my husband on the couch. I am just about in tears...only because I am drained. With my son being sick with Pneumonia all of last week and also not sleeping because I am worried about Livi. I am just soooooooo COMPLETELY tired at this point.

Maybe, just maybe, today will be the day. I am going to give the vet a call this morning and see what they say.

:( :confused:

WV~Yorkies 01-20-2010 03:47 AM

What day is she on?

I hope she goes soon!

luckylady 01-20-2010 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 2964055)
Nothing :( She woke us again this morning...same time as yesterday (5am) because she went under our bed. We took her out the the living room and now she is just sleeping away with my husband on the couch. I am just about in tears...only because I am drained. With my son being sick with Pneumonia all of last week and also not sleeping because I am worried about Livi. I am just soooooooo COMPLETELY tired at this point.

Maybe, just maybe, today will be the day. I am going to give the vet a call this morning and see what they say.

:( :confused:

Aww Tammy-----:hug:------
What day is she on from her last tie? Is she past the date? I'll be curious to see what the vet has to say and will be surely sneaking a peek here from work today. You can count on my prayers and wishes for a safe whelp still continuing for you.

AprilLove 01-20-2010 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 2964055)
Nothing :( She woke us again this morning...same time as yesterday (5am) because she went under our bed. We took her out the the living room and now she is just sleeping away with my husband on the couch. I am just about in tears...only because I am drained. With my son being sick with Pneumonia all of last week and also not sleeping because I am worried about Livi. I am just soooooooo COMPLETELY tired at this point.

Maybe, just maybe, today will be the day. I am going to give the vet a call this morning and see what they say.

:( :confused:

:hug: Awe, Tammy, I hope Livi decides to deliver today. I am so sorry, being tired and drained is not a good feeling, maybe you can catch a nap while she is with your hubby. Is your son feeling better? Hopefully you will have a wonderful day filled with puppy breath. Will be keeping you and Livi in our thoughts today, it has to be the day!!! :):)

JeanieK 01-20-2010 05:35 AM

Oh Tammy I feel so bad for you, but it will all be worth it when those puppies come nice and fat and healthy.

Keeping fingers crossed for today. This has to be as bad as going over your own due date. I always went early and always felt bad for those who went over.

My Hallie went almost a week over one time, my guess was she had not ovulated till after she was bred.

motherhen 01-20-2010 06:10 AM

Tammy,

I wouldn't worry too much yet. Nature has a way of taking it's course with dogs, just like it does with humans. If they aren't ready to be born yet, and need more time, then it's best that they have more time in their mommy. Prayers going up for her, puppies and you!!!

TammyJM 01-20-2010 06:14 AM

The wait, worry and wonder is killing me! Her first tie would have put her at 63 days last Saturday, but she had one more tie and that day would have been her 63 this past Monday. The only thing that I can think of is that I have always felt like Livi ovulates late....I think I have even told Sue and Karen this. She will not start flagging until the 16th day of her cycle and her heats are longer than the "norm". I let them tie on the 11th and 13th day of this heat....even though I felt like it was early for her. I was surprised that Livi was flagging because, like I said, she doesn't do this until her 16th day. Sooooo, if that is all true then that would put her due tomorrow.

Does any of that make sense....or am I writing as tired as I am feeling? :rolleyes:

motherhen 01-20-2010 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 2964148)
The wait, worry and wonder is killing me! Her first tie would have put her at 63 days last Saturday, but she had one more tie and that day would have been her 63 this past Monday. The only thing that I can think of is that I have always felt like Livi ovulates late....I think I have even told Sue and Karen this. She will not start flagging until the 16th day of her cycle and her heats are longer than the "norm". I let them tie on the 11th and 13th day of this heat....even though I felt like it was early for her. I was surprised that Livi was flagging because, like I said, she doesn't do this until her 16th day. Sooooo, if that is all true then that would put her due tomorrow.

Does any of that make sense....or am I writing as tired as I am feeling? :rolleyes:

Tammy, you made perfect sense. Do try to get some little cat naps here and there, so you'll be ready when the time does come. Also, try to drink some extra water -- that will help you to not get as run down as quickly.

JeanieK 01-20-2010 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 2964148)
The wait, worry and wonder is killing me! Her first tie would have put her at 63 days last Saturday, but she had one more tie and that day would have been her 63 this past Monday. The only thing that I can think of is that I have always felt like Livi ovulates late....I think I have even told Sue and Karen this. She will not start flagging until the 16th day of her cycle and her heats are longer than the "norm". I let them tie on the 11th and 13th day of this heat....even though I felt like it was early for her. I was surprised that Livi was flagging because, like I said, she doesn't do this until her 16th day. Sooooo, if that is all true then that would put her due tomorrow.

Does any of that make sense....or am I writing as tired as I am feeling? :rolleyes:

Yes it makes sense, and if she ovulated late then she would not have conceived at the time of the tie.

I don't recall how long the sperm live. But she should be having them soon.

Question. How do you know exactly when their heat starts? I rarely see any blood with my girls, I go by when the other dogs start to do a lot of sniffing.

TammyJM 01-20-2010 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2964174)
Yes it makes sense, and if she ovulated late then she would not have conceived at the time of the tie.

I don't recall how long the sperm live. But she should be having them soon.

Question. How do you know exactly when their heat starts? I rarely see any blood with my girls, I go by when the other dogs start to do a lot of sniffing.

I would imagine the other dogs (especially the boys) would be a great indication. For Livi....I just know because she starts acting different and then within a couple of days, she starts licking. Livi is one that once you are around her, you feel like you can read her thoughts because she is sooooooo expressive with her eyes. I always know when she needs or wants something...plus, she likes to come and sit and stare at me until I get it. ;) :D She's probably thinking..."Geesh, humans...have to teach them everything!" :p

TammyJM 01-20-2010 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by motherhen (Post 2964163)
Tammy, you made perfect sense. Do try to get some little cat naps here and there, so you'll be ready when the time does come. Also, try to drink some extra water -- that will help you to not get as run down as quickly.

Thanks...I will make sure to rest as much as I can today. Maybe I will during my son's nap today. Livi is currently under the ottoman sleeping herself so I don't see things changing anytime too soon.

carmen in nj 01-20-2010 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2964174)
Yes it makes sense, and if she ovulated late then she would not have conceived at the time of the tie.

I don't recall how long the sperm live. But she should be having them soon.

Question. How do you know exactly when their heat starts? I rarely see any blood with my girls, I go by when the other dogs start to do a lot of sniffing.

sperm can live up to 7 days, so depending on when she ovulated give or take 7 days, she is close but is very important that those babies are ready, and her body will determine that..
best of luck..
hugs,
Carmen in nj

TammyJM 01-20-2010 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by carmen in nj (Post 2964191)
sperm can live up to 7 days, so depending on when she ovulated give or take 7 days, she is close but is very important that those babies are ready, and her body will determine that..
best of luck..
hugs,
Carmen in nj

This is exactly what my husband has been reminding me of. I am just the type of person that stresses and likes things to be done a certain way. :rolleyes: It's best for her babies to have this time to continue to grow....I would be VERY hearbroken for her to have more 2oz. babies!! I know they are bigger, though...they move and her WHOLE stomache will move up and down. It's sooooooo different than her first litter...where I could only feel them moving. This time, they literally move the sides of her tummy where you can see them from across the room. LOVE IT!!!! :)

carmen in nj 01-20-2010 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 2964198)
This is exactly what my husband has been reminding me of. I am just the type of person that stresses and likes things to be done a certain way. :rolleyes: It's best for her babies to have this time to continue to grow....I would be VERY hearbroken for her to have more 2oz. babies!! I know they are bigger, though...they move and her WHOLE stomache will move up and down. It's sooooooo different than her first litter...where I could only feel them moving. This time, they literally move the sides of her tummy where you can see them from across the room. LOVE IT!!!! :)

oh girl I hear you, I am just like that, I keep so close count of when I breed my girls that my husband calls it the whelping obsession..LOL and I KNOW how hard are those last few days, my chanel was SO huge I started to feel guilty every time I saw the rumble inside her.. and I found myself apologizing for breeding her..:p:p, I know your Livi will have gorgeous cute babies and I can't wait to see them..
hugs to you both..
Carmen in nj

TammyJM 01-20-2010 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by carmen in nj (Post 2964226)
oh girl I hear you, I am just like that, I keep so close count of when I breed my girls that my husband calls it the whelping obsession..LOL and I KNOW how hard are those last few days, my chanel was SO huge I started to feel guilty every time I saw the rumble inside her.. and I found myself apologizing for breeding her..:p:p, I know your Livi will have gorgeous cute babies and I can't wait to see them..
hugs to you both..
Carmen in nj

You are too sweet...thank you! I have done the same with Livi...especially after her last litter and all that happened. I can't tell you how many times I cried and told her how sorry I was. I will feel so much better once I get to see these babies.

JeanieK 01-20-2010 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 2964232)
You are too sweet...thank you! I have done the same with Livi...especially after her last litter and all that happened. I can't tell you how many times I cried and told her how sorry I was. I will feel so much better once I get to see these babies.

Oh I did that too when Ollie lost her litter, I just hugged her and we both cried. Then two days later, Harlie had her babies and I was sooo happy to be able to give Ollie one of those babies.

JeanieK 01-20-2010 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 2964183)
I would imagine the other dogs (especially the boys) would be a great indication. For Livi....I just know because she starts acting different and then within a couple of days, she starts licking. Livi is one that once you are around her, you feel like you can read her thoughts because she is sooooooo expressive with her eyes. I always know when she needs or wants something...plus, she likes to come and sit and stare at me until I get it. ;) :D She's probably thinking..."Geesh, humans...have to teach them everything!" :p

I always have thought that the intelligence of a dog is in how much they teach you, not in how much you can teach them.

kpstoybox 01-20-2010 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2964431)
Oh I did that too when Ollie lost her litter, I just hugged her and we both cried. Then two days later, Harlie had her babies and I was sooo happy to be able to give Ollie one of those babies.

Awe..reading this gave me goosebumps! What a beautiful ending to such a tragic loss!!

TammyJM 01-20-2010 01:14 PM

I think it's safe to say that things are progressing with Livi. She shot out from under the ottoman and has been licking NONSTOP! But since she can't reach where she is trying to lick because she is too big now, she then starts licking at her back legs. Not only this, but she is also biting at her legs and when her little tummy tightens up, she is chewing at the sides of her belly. :( Is there anything that I can do to comfort her with this pain? Obviously, I know with women a warm bath helps, but she would flip out if I put her in a tub right now! I have been sitting and rubbing her tummy, but that doesn't really seem to distract her too much.

Any suggestions? :(

motherhen 01-20-2010 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 2964730)
I think it's safe to say that things are progressing with Livi. She shot out from under the ottoman and has been licking NONSTOP! But since she can't reach where she is trying to lick because she is too big now, she then starts licking at her back legs. Not only this, but she is also biting at her legs and when her little tummy tightens up, she is chewing at the sides of her belly. :( Is there anything that I can do to comfort her with this pain? Obviously, I know with women a warm bath helps, but she would flip out if I put her in a tub right now! I have been sitting and rubbing her tummy, but that doesn't really seem to distract her too much.

Any suggestions? :(

Rubbing her tummy is good, and talking to her. Offer her water, and just being with her will help her. I always turn on Country Classics really low, and the music seems to calm her some too. Dairy farmers always have music playing when they milk cows, because it calms them. Hang in there, we're all praying for Livi and you!

WinstonMom 01-20-2010 01:28 PM

Poor baby, maybe a nice warm blanket out of the clothes dryer would help. My girls always like to just lay on my lap and I stroke them and talk to them softly, but I have never had one biting at herself. Best of luck for a fast and safe whelping. Glad to hear that things are progressing.

AHicks99 01-20-2010 01:54 PM

So happy to hear things are progressing with Livi. May sound funny but talk to her as Im sure you do but talk to her about whats happening and whats going on. For example when she is having contractions talk to her about the contractions just like you would a human. Encourage and praise her.

This technique seemed to work with my female. She would freak the same way and bite the pain. So I would sit and talk to her. Seemed like she understood what I was saying and it would actually comfort her. While I would talk to her she would just stare at me and absorb what I was saying. Looked like she would block the pain, another thing I would do is lay on the floor with her and let her lick me. I would make it known to her I wasnt leaving her side and that it would soon be over. And by her third litter she wouldnt attempt to bite the pain.

Again wishing you and Livi the best. Keep us posted. I know there are a lot of us awaiting the new arrivals.

Pinehaven 01-20-2010 02:25 PM

I always talk to my girls when they are having contractions, I stroke them and reassure them and tell them how good they are. I am by their sides so they know they are not alone and some get very upset if I leave them for even a moment.

Just be a mom and Livi will be fine.

Good luck Tammy and Livi. Praying for the perfect text book delivery, with beautiful healthy pups and a happy momma.

luckylady 01-20-2010 02:32 PM

Oh Tammy, I am so glad to hear that it seems things are finally getting underway. It IS so hard for us to see our "babies" in pain and/or uncomfortable and I agree with the other responses of talking in a soothing tone to her, being by her side (or where ever she wants you to be), getting her to focus on you and your words rather than her discomfort.
We are all here for you and Livi wishing you a safe and successful whelping experience. Hugs to both of you!

JeanieK 01-20-2010 03:04 PM

Oh no babies yet. I hope everything is OK.


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