Ellie has Eclampsia

[blancla]

Well thank the lord above I heartburn last night. After 15 minutes of tossing and turning in the bed last night, I came down stairs for some milk, and I found Ellie in her box and she was as rigid as stone. I got her out of the box immediately, rushed her to the emergency vet. They said we got it just in time. They gave her IV with calcium, a shot for vomiting and then some extra IV fluids. The puppies are now 16 days old and she can no longer nurse them. I am feeding them with a bottle, equal parts goats milk and water. My husband will be feeding them during the day while I am at work, and hopefully I will not need it, but my mother has offered to help as well.

Ellie is doing much better, but she doesn't understand why she can't feed them. Any words of advice on a quick way to get her milk to dry up without getting mastitis? Everyone appreciated the bottle this morning with the exception of the largest one. He still wants the teat. I am going to try to put a little karo syrup on the nipple and see if he takes it.

Is it a good idea to get her spayed? She had a litter before and she developed matisis, other than that, she was fine. I'm so torn as this has never happened to her before. Any words of advice is greatly appreciated.

[WV~Yorkies]

So she can be with the pups and diaper them put a baby onesies on her.

[carmen in nj]

oh that is my worse nightmare, eclamsia, sorry you have to deal with that, I try so hard to prevent it. My Chanel get one pill a day of Doc Roy's Healthy bones, is a calcium and phosphorus supplements, a nice breeder on this board recomended it, plus 3 small servings of whelping pudding with her regular meals and I am still afraid of it..
hugs,
Carmen in nj

[blancla]

I was doing everything I could, but it just happened. I am keeping a onsie on her, but she doesn't understand why she can't feed her puppies. I am calling my vet this morning to see if he can give her a shot to dry up her milk and take out the IV cath. She's a lot better this morning.

[Mardelin]

Sorry about your girl. The good think is that they are 16 days of age, when they are 3 weeks of age they can begin lapping their goats milk from a bowl. At about 3 1/2 half weeks you can begin adding Gerber's rice ceral with a bit of Karo Syrup and make a soupy gruel.

Your vet can prescribe a dry up pill for your girl, however feeding her less will lessen her milk supply. Just monitor that her brests don't fill up, having them burst is not a fun think to contend with. You can put her in with pups, just make sure you put a onsie on her. You may want to lightly day over her nipples with medical paper tape while she's in there with them.

Eclampsia is tough, I keep Oral Cal Plus (for emergencies, when I see my girls acting strange) on hand and give a Calcium Supplement as well as feeding a scrambled egg a day (best natural calcium), along with whelping pudding, The Calcium Supplement I give according to my girls weight and whenever there is a litter of 3 or more.

[blancla]

Thanks so much for the advice. I would have never thought of the paper tape. My husband is going to take her this morning to the vet and see if he will give her something to dry up the milk. She felt full this morning and was actually leaking some milk through her onsie. I am not sure if it was from the diapering of the pups or what brought it on. I will keep you guys updated as soon as she gets home from the vet.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by blancla

Thanks so much for the advice. I would have never thought of the paper tape. My husband is going to take her this morning to the vet and see if he will give her something to dry up the milk. She felt full this morning and was actually leaking some milk through her onsie. I am not sure if it was from the diapering of the pups or what brought it on. I will keep you guys updated as soon as she gets home from the vet.

I had a litter last October, when my mom went down when the pups were a week old. She didn't have eclampsia or a retained placenta, but her horn had ripped during the whelping process (wasn't discovered until we had her spayed in February). Not fun hand raising pups and taking care of mom's needs at the same time. The massive antibiotics and IV that were administered and being at the vets for 3 days dried her up.

[blancla]

Wow, Mary, I didn't realize that happened. I am sorry to hear about that. I am anxious sitting here waiting for my husband to call me from the vets office. I don't have any additional time to miss work, so I am all tapped out. At least he is there to do it for me. I wouldn't know what to do if he wasn't helping me so much. He is actually going to go buy more onsies this morning. (We only had 2 that would fit her)

[carmen in nj]

Originally Posted by blancla

Wow, Mary, I didn't realize that happened. I am sorry to hear about that. I am anxious sitting here waiting for my husband to call me from the vets office. I don't have any additional time to miss work, so I am all tapped out. At least he is there to do it for me. I wouldn't know what to do if he wasn't helping me so much. He is actually going to go buy more onsies this morning. (We only had 2 that would fit her)

you have a very good man in there girl.. congrats to you.. beleive me he will do fine, and your girl will be fine too..
hugs,

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by blancla

Wow, Mary, I didn't realize that happened. I am sorry to hear about that. I am anxious sitting here waiting for my husband to call me from the vets office. I don't have any additional time to miss work, so I am all tapped out. At least he is there to do it for me. I wouldn't know what to do if he wasn't helping me so much. He is actually going to go buy more onsies this morning. (We only had 2 that would fit her)

It's great when you have a husband that supports you.

You know I can whelp anyone elses litter. But, when it comes to whelping my own, I go all drama......just lose control. Hubby has now taken over that part, keeping me out of the room until he sees a bubble. Then he yells for me. And because I'm so anal, he now puts the whelping crib in the Guest Room and takes over the care of mom and the pups until they are about 4 weeks old......then they come into our room. Of course all the girls in the house are his and have a bond with him. He's always so calm, cool and loving with them. We work well as a team. He hasn't got the danger signs, he depends on me for that. You should see him milk down a pup until it gets to the birth canal. Knows how to gently turn a pup when it is presenting itself head up. He does all the tails and dew claws.....

[blancla]

Thanks Carmen. I know how lucky I am. You should have seen him feeding the little ones this morning. I have the 3 boys which now weigh about a 1lb and then the runt is weighing in at 8.1 oz. I have never seen one so small before.

I know that this doesn't pretain to Ellie's issue, but I have one of my boys that has a pink nose and white around it. Could he possibly be a parti carrier? How do you know?

[blancla]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

It's great when you have a husband that supports you.

You know I can whelp anyone elses litter. But, when it comes to whelping my own, I go all drama......just lose control. Hubby has now taken over that part, keeping me out of the room until he sees a bubble. Then he yells for me. And because I'm so anal, he now puts the whelping crib in the Guest Room and takes over the care of mom and the pups until they are about 4 weeks old......then they come into our room. Of course all the girls in the house are his and have a bond with him. He's always so calm, cool and loving with them. We work well as a team. He hasn't got the danger signs, he depends on me for that. You should see him milk down a pup until it gets to the birth canal. Knows how to gently turn a pup when it is presenting itself head up. He does all the tails and dew claws.....

My husband refused to hold the puppies for the tails and dew claw removal, so I ended up taking them to the vet for it. He said he can't see hurting them at all. He was talking baby talk to them this morning while trying to bottle feed them. It's funny to watch, and I thought men were suppose to be tough. He's my night in shining armor. I don't know what I would do without him.

[carmen in nj]

Originally Posted by blancla

My husband refused to hold the puppies for the tails and dew claw removal, so I ended up taking them to the vet for it. He said he can't see hurting them at all. He was talking baby talk to them this morning while trying to bottle feed them. It's funny to watch, and I thought men were suppose to be tough. He's my night in shining armor. I don't know what I would do without him.

oh girl, my hubby is like that too, when it came to do the babies tails and du claws, as soon as my mentor and son arrived to get them done, my hubby felt a necessity of going shopping on thanksgiving day..LOL he went to our local quick check to get coffee..meanwhile I had a whole carafe full of it in the kitchen.. he said that is barbaric and he would never suport it, so he left..now she hold them and apologizes to them every time..LOL .. even tho now they are fully healed... funny how something so small control such a big man... we work as a team when whelping and when Chanel was having her babies, I could not take a little break to go to the bathroom until she was done and resting.. he did not let me leave the room.. I thought it was the funniest thing, even tho I had to GO...LOL

uuuu, pink noses, can you post a picture when you get home, would love to see them..

[blancla]

I will do that. I was just curious if that means he was a parti, or if it's just going to turn later on. Everyone else has a black nose. Don't tell the others, but he is my favorite.

[JENMORR6]

I hope your little girl gets to feeling better. I also hope the puppies do ok with bottle feeding. At what age do you let your puppies go to their new home?