Ellie has Eclampsia

[blancla]

I am going to stay with the goats milk. I have been weighing them and everyone is gaining. He wanted her to nurse today because she was almost engorged. He wants to prevent the matisis if possible. I understand where he is coming from, but I definitely want to do what's right for my mother and babies. The formula he gave was pro-biolac.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by blancla

I am going to stay with the goats milk. I have been weighing them and everyone is gaining. He wanted her to nurse today because she was almost engorged. He wants to prevent the matisis if possible. I understand where he is coming from, but I definitely want to do what's right for my mother and babies. The formula he gave was pro-biolac.

Then let them nurse for short periods of time.

The brobiolic/biotics, then can get from Benebac....get it at Petsmart.....buy plenty of tubes. I usually administer 1/2 tube at birth and everytime I make changes in their diet. But, you can do it according to the tubes directions.

[blancla]

I already have some of that. They have been on goats milk since this morning and were doing very well. They will stop nursing this time tomorrow and be completely off of Ellie, and will only rely on us to bottle feed. I got some paper tape for her teats and my husband got more onsies so that they can be sure not to get to her.

Do you think I should start decreasing her meals tonight, or should I wait until tomorrow since she is doing better and her calicum levels are normal today?

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by blancla

I already have some of that. They have been on goats milk since this morning and were doing very well. They will stop nursing this time tomorrow and be completely off of Ellie, and will only rely on us to bottle feed. I got some paper tape for her teats and my husband got more onsies so that they can be sure not to get to her.

Do you think I should start decreasing her meals tonight, or should I wait until tomorrow since she is doing better and her calicum levels are normal today?

Streat decreasing her meals tonight.......

Then if you have Benebac go ahead and use it. If they're doing well on Goats Milk, that's what's important.

[blancla]

That's the way that I feel about it. I will give them some benebac when I get home, and then continue to use the goats milk as of tomorrow when we completely take them off of her.

Thanks Mary for all of your help. I am so glad that you were here today.

[TammyJM]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

The goats milk = water I do not agree with. Per my repro vet, Goats milk is the closests things to mother's milk (97%). Just Born replacement milk causes premature cataracs. What I did notice once I changed over to Goats Milk, the pups began gaining very quickly, where with the Mother's Replacement milk, I was going backwards.....showed my vet what I was giving and he went balistic. He's a repro vet. And why I wasn't using Goats Milk when my breeder/mentor had advised me to use it. Smart me, I thought I was being progressive, going with the times....things had evolved. I did google searches and called my breeder/exhibitor friends, everyone uses Goats Milk.

I'd worry about letting her nurse.......The calcium pills I agree with.

Per experience, pups can lap at 3 weeks. I usually let my pups do it whether they are nursing or not. Just to give mom a break.....maybe once a day.

My vet is also a repro specialist and when we had to supplement Livi's puppies, he also said goats milk. The only thing that we were able to find was the powered form, though....still, that's what we used.

Can't wait to see their pictures!

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by TammyJM

My vet is also a repro specialist and when we had to supplement Livi's puppies, he also said goats milk. The only thing that we were able to find was the powered form, though....still, that's what we used.

Can't wait to see their pictures!

Don't know where you live....But, Walmart carries the canned goats milk. And in a pinch I've used the fresh.

[blancla]

I will get you guys some pictures this evening. It will be after 6:00 EST because I won't get home from work until then. Then I have to give my poor DH a break. He's been so good to me and Ellie. I guess I need to get him some kind of thank you card.

[blancla]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Don't know where you live....But, Walmart carries the canned goats milk. And in a pinch I've used the fresh.

All of our grocery stores carry it around here. I have been getting the canned goats milk. It's only $2.80 a can compared to the high price of the puppy replacement formula.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by blancla

All of our grocery stores carry it around here. I have been getting the canned goats milk. It's only $2.80 a can compared to the high price of the puppy replacement formula.

And much better for them.

[TammyJM]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Don't know where you live....But, Walmart carries the canned goats milk. And in a pinch I've used the fresh.

I did not realize this...my husband even asked our vet's office where to get it and they said the pet food supply store. They only had the HUGE bag of powered. Thanks for telling me about Wal-Mart!! Can I ask a probably silly question....what section is it in there?

Thanks again!

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by blancla

I will get you guys some pictures this evening. It will be after 6:00 EST because I won't get home from work until then. Then I have to give my poor DH a break. He's been so good to me and Ellie. I guess I need to get him some kind of thank you card.

You need send him on a boys night out...but, if he like my hubby....maybe that won't do. Send him flowers, bring him home a chocolate cake and cook him his favorite meal. Sit him infront of the TV on Sunday to watch football and attend to all his needs....beer, chips, whatever.

[blancla]

Ours is located with the coffee and evaporated milk. If you find the evaporated you will find the goats milk. It's in a white can with green lettering.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by blancla

Ours is located with the coffee and evaporated milk. If you find the evaporated you will find the goats milk. It's in a white can with green lettering.

Yep! You got it. In the baking section/canned milk section. I usually buy a case just before whelping. Since I know I'm going to use it when I begin introducing them to lapping anyway. When they are weaned, I look at the dates and if it doesn't look I'm going to breed anytime soon. I'll toss whatever is left.

[TammyJM]

Originally Posted by blancla

I will get you guys some pictures this evening. It will be after 6:00 EST because I won't get home from work until then. Then I have to give my poor DH a break. He's been so good to me and Ellie. I guess I need to get him some kind of thank you card.

God bless these hubbies that are so good to our precious fur kids!!! My husband was a lifesaver for me when Livi had to be rushed to the vet for her emergency c-section! He was the one that ran alllllllll over town to get the different things then needed. He gave up sleeping in the bedroom because I kept it so hot for the puppies....didn't complain about sleeping on the couch with fans. Also, he was the on that slept on the floor the few nights before Livi had her puppies because she wanted to be with him but didn't want on the bed.

We are all lucky ladies to be married to such loving human beings...both to our fur kids and to us!

Post pictures when you get the chance.