Stud service question

[kjcmsw]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Are both she and the stud line bred. Do they meet the standard

Does she come from a line of free whelpers I'm not familiar with the term free whelpers. I purchased her from someone who has bred her Yorkie twice. Since I consider a dog a lifetime committment I wanted to be sure a Yorkie would be the perfect dog for me, thus I met several breeders and their puppies prior to chosing one. She was very dedicated to the dogs and after meeting her and the puppy's parents several times prior to the purchase I was impressed with her care and concern for them.

Have all the necessary tests been performed on her and the stud. Bile Acids, hips and knees x-rayed, eyes and ears tested. Since I am now only considering the option of breeding her, I do not have information on the study, but I take it it's important to know if and when that time comes (thank you)

Are you willing to lose her and the litter? No, that's why I'm finding out from people who seem to be knowledgeable in the area of breeding Yorkies first before making such a decision. Why do you want to breed her? I'm considering breeding her because I would like another & by breeding her myself I would know a little bit more about what I would be getting.

Have you studied everything you can about breeding, genetics, whelping?Since I care very much for her and do not want to put her in harm's way, I've been studying as much as I can about breeding, genetics, whelping. I believe I am now at the point I've gained much information regarding breeding from reading & I am interesting in actually speaking to those that do breed them to extend my knowledge. I felt that was the next course to take as I do not wish to jump into this lightly.

The yorkie is not a breed you can breed pheno type to pheno type and know what you're going to get.

Thanks for trying to answer my questions. I appreciate it.

[kjcmsw]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Are both she and the stud line bred. Do they meet the standard

Does she come from a line of free whelpers

Have all the necessary tests been performed on her and the stud. Bile Acids, hips and knees x-rayed, eyes and ears tested.

Are you willing to lose her and the litter? Why do you want to breed her?

Have you studied everything you can about breeding, genetics, whelping?

The yorkie is not a breed you can breed pheno type to pheno type and know what you're going to get.

I answered this but it didn't post...essentially I had stated:
I wasn't familiar with the term "free whelpers", but assuming it referred to one who breds indiscriminately, my yorkie came from someone who had bred her yorkie twice. I consider a dog a lifetime committment with the good, the bad, & the ugly, thus I visited her, her puppies and both of the dog's parents several times prior to purchasing my dog. I also visited several other breeders before deciding on her.
Both of my yorkie's parents have been tested for diseases/adverse health conditions prior to the breeder allowing her dog to have puppies. Since I am only at the considering point of allowing my dog to have puppies I would get that info should the time come. I was considering breeding her as I would like another yorkie and would like to know better what I was getting and this would be one way to come closer to achieving that.
Clearly, I would not want to lose her or the puppies that's why I am only at the consideration point. I have read as much as I can about the process, and now felt I was ready to dicuss with someone (such as yourself) knowledgable about breeding yorkies to extend my knowledge before breeding.
Thanks for trying to answer my questions. I appreciate your time.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by kjcmsw

I answered this but it didn't post...essentially I had stated:
I wasn't familiar with the term "free whelpers", but assuming it referred to one who breds indiscriminately, my yorkie came from someone who had bred her yorkie twice. I consider a dog a lifetime committment with the good, the bad, & the ugly, thus I visited her, her puppies and both of the dog's parents several times prior to purchasing my dog. I also visited several other breeders before deciding on her.
Both of my yorkie's parents have been tested for diseases/adverse health conditions prior to the breeder allowing her dog to have puppies. Since I am only at the considering point of allowing my dog to have puppies I would get that info should the time come. I was considering breeding her as I would like another yorkie and would like to know better what I was getting and this would be one way to come closer to achieving that.
Clearly, I would not want to lose her or the puppies that's why I am only at the consideration point. I have read as much as I can about the process, and now felt I was ready to dicuss with someone (such as yourself) knowledgable about breeding yorkies to extend my knowledge before breeding.
Thanks for trying to answer my questions. I appreciate your time.

No, free whelpers, means dams that whelp their pups naturally without C-section.....

As far as breeding your yorkie a knowing what you were getting, I'm not sure that is possible. You can breed the same 2 yorkies on 2 or 3 different occassions and never repeat the same litter.

I'm glad that you are doing your homework upfront. And since you are, you've discovered that there is more than comes into play than just weight and size. I'm sure that you are taking everything into consideration. I'm in no way against anyone breeding their dogs, as long as the do it correctly and for the right reasons. Mainly to improve the breed.

read this thread

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...-breeding.html

[Sugar's Mom]

if as you say, you are only wanting to breed your baby girl one time to get yourself another yorkie, it would be safer and cheaper in the long run to buy another one. Even experienced breeders have serious problems from time to time.

[kjcmsw]

Thanks for answering...and explaining "free whelpers". The mother did not have a C-sect. Her owner did mention that she had the puppies very easily both times.

I was told that it was important whenever possible to make sure the stud was small...though not guaranteeing, just helping to possibly produce small puppies and making it easier on the mother.

I truly believe she was a responsible breeder. She wouldn't allow the puppies to leave before they were 12 weeks...she was out of town and I was starting my vacation and wanted to bring the puppy home the first day of my vacation (to get her used to the house/family with me home), however the puppy was 11 weeks, 6 days and she made me come back the next day to pick her up, because she wasn't exactly 12 weeks until the following day. She cried when we left.
At any rate, I've been so pleased with my Yorkie (Gracie) & impressed with how intelligent she is. She went to the potty pad and learned her name on day one. She has eight different toys and will bring you whatever one you tell her to on one command. She's a delight and makes us laugh everyday. Funny, smart, and beautiful...we should all be so lucky.
Thanks again.

[kjcmsw]

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

if as you say, you are only wanting to breed your baby girl one time to get yourself another yorkie, it would be safer and cheaper in the long run to buy another one. Even experienced breeders have serious problems from time to time.

Thanks for answering also. It's finding a reputable and affordable breeder in my area is the problem. The person I got mine from isn't sure if she will be having any more puppies. She stated maybe in a couple years she'd do it again. My vet (of 20 years) makes house calls and he stated my yorkie was very healthy but did say Yorkies can have problems having puppies, but he's available to be on hand to deliver her if I eventually decide on that. Plus he'd only charge $160 to do so. Of course, complications would add to that price.
Anyway, thanks I appreciate the advice.

[manina]

Originally Posted by kjcmsw

Thanks for answering...and explaining "free whelpers". The mother did not have a C-sect. Her owner did mention that she had the puppies very easily both times.

I was told that it was important whenever possible to make sure the stud was small...though not guaranteeing, just helping to possibly produce small puppies and making it easier on the mother.

I truly believe she was a responsible breeder. She wouldn't allow the puppies to leave before they were 12 weeks...she was out of town and I was starting my vacation and wanted to bring the puppy home the first day of my vacation (to get her used to the house/family with me home), however the puppy was 11 weeks, 6 days and she made me come back the next day to pick her up, because she wasn't exactly 12 weeks until the following day. She cried when we left.
At any rate, I've been so pleased with my Yorkie (Gracie) & impressed with how intelligent she is. She went to the potty pad and learned her name on day one. She has eight different toys and will bring you whatever one you tell her to on one command. She's a delight and makes us laugh everyday. Funny, smart, and beautiful...we should all be so lucky.
Thanks again.

Congrats ! on yr new furbaby she sounds wonderful. And Welcome to Yt, I hope u got all yr questions answer, our breeder in Yt are very good at what they do and try their best to help the rest of us when we need advise or help.
wishing u the very best , hope to see pictures soon.
bark@ulater!
manina, miley , max

[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by kjcmsw

Thanks for answering also. It's finding a reputable and affordable breeder in my area is the problem. The person I got mine from isn't sure if she will be having any more puppies. She stated maybe in a couple years she'd do it again. My vet (of 20 years) makes house calls and he stated my yorkie was very healthy but did say Yorkies can have problems having puppies, but he's available to be on hand to deliver her if I eventually decide on that. Plus he'd only charge $160 to do so. Of course, complications would add to that price.
Anyway, thanks I appreciate the advice.

there is a very ethical and good breeder in your area that is a member here. i think her user name is yorkiegeorge. her kennel name is Formosayorkies

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by kjcmsw

Thanks for answering...and explaining "free whelpers". The mother did not have a C-sect. Her owner did mention that she had the puppies very easily both times.

I was told that it was important whenever possible to make sure the stud was small...though not guaranteeing, just helping to possibly produce small puppies and making it easier on the mother.

I truly believe she was a responsible breeder. She wouldn't allow the puppies to leave before they were 12 weeks...she was out of town and I was starting my vacation and wanted to bring the puppy home the first day of my vacation (to get her used to the house/family with me home), however the puppy was 11 weeks, 6 days and she made me come back the next day to pick her up, because she wasn't exactly 12 weeks until the following day. She cried when we left.
At any rate, I've been so pleased with my Yorkie (Gracie) & impressed with how intelligent she is. She went to the potty pad and learned her name on day one. She has eight different toys and will bring you whatever one you tell her to on one command. She's a delight and makes us laugh everyday. Funny, smart, and beautiful...we should all be so lucky.
Thanks again.

Having a smaller stud is a misnomer. That's where I said knowing the line and line breeding. Studing genetics and how to breed. Learn your pedigrees.

You're not knowing what a free whelper was, says you have a lot of learning to do.
Yorkies are an intelligent breed and a wonderful. All my pups go home knowing how to pee on pottie pad. Know their toys, and a couple of tricks.

As stated by Sugar's Mom, problems arise for experienced breeders, buy a pup. The lifes of these little guys are precious and one should know what they're doing. I know I didn't wake up one day and decide my lil girl was cute and bred her. I had a mentor, studied with her for 3 years, learned genetics, championed 3 dogs, studied the standard, pedigrees, whelping before I even went near a whelping box. I don't breed to sell puppies, I breed for myself, for my next Champion to add to my breeding program.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by kjcmsw

Thanks for answering also. It's finding a reputable and affordable breeder in my area is the problem. The person I got mine from isn't sure if she will be having any more puppies. She stated maybe in a couple years she'd do it again. My vet (of 20 years) makes house calls and he stated my yorkie was very healthy but did say Yorkies can have problems having puppies, but he's available to be on hand to deliver her if I eventually decide on that. Plus he'd only charge $160 to do so. Of course, complications would add to that price.
Anyway, thanks I appreciate the advice.

Vets are good and went to school to save the lifes of dogs. They did not go to school to study the standard of each dog. I'm not saying your puppy isn't healthy, but does she meet the standard.

From what you've stated, you've made up your mind already and were just attempting to get affirmation......I won't do that with a novice.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by kjcmsw

Thanks for answering also. It's finding a reputable and affordable breeder in my area is the problem. The person I got mine from isn't sure if she will be having any more puppies. She stated maybe in a couple years she'd do it again. My vet (of 20 years) makes house calls and he stated my yorkie was very healthy but did say Yorkies can have problems having puppies, but he's available to be on hand to deliver her if I eventually decide on that. Plus he'd only charge $160 to do so. Of course, complications would add to that price.
Anyway, thanks I appreciate the advice.

I know several YTCA breeders that live in your area. If you haven't already check the YTCA.org breeder referral pages.

[kjcmsw]

The only thing I made my mind up on was to find out more about whether breeding my yorkie is a good thing or not. I certainly didn't wake up one day and decide to breed my dog. Clearly, I am going about it the right way...i.e., not just jumping in and doing it because she's "cute". As you, yourself, indicated you had to learn somewhere, thus that is all I'm doing, attempting to get general information to see if I should delve into more research.
Ironically, I am a genetics counselor for humans, so I'm sure I'll be able to handle a dog's genetic aspects. Maybe that is why I'm being so careful and attempting to learn even more about this particular breed and its breeding. Free whelping...I'll learn the terminology.

Thanks.

[Mardelin]

I would strongly suggest that you find a mentor to guide you through the process. Go to dog shows, talk to exhibitor breeders.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by kjcmsw

The only thing I made my mind up on was to find out more about whether breeding my yorkie is a good thing or not. I certainly didn't wake up one day and decide to breed my dog. Clearly, I am going about it the right way...i.e., not just jumping in and doing it because she's "cute". As you, yourself, indicated you had to learn somewhere, thus that is all I'm doing, attempting to get general information to see if I should delve into more research.
Ironically, I am a genetics counselor for humans, so I'm sure I'll be able to handle a dog's genetic aspects. Maybe that is why I'm being so careful and attempting to learn even more about this particular breed and its breeding. Free whelping...I'll learn the terminology.

Thanks.

Yes, I learned somewhere. I found a mentor; an exhibitor breeder that forced me to learn everything I could, attend seminars, classes, study genetics, whelping, breeding. Did not sell me a puppy for nearly 2 years, until she knew my heart was in the right place and knew that I was breeding to improve the breed. Making me understand that in order to breed a good dog you had to start with the best foundation your money could buy. She made me assist her in whelping and did not allow me to breed until I'd finished 3 Champions. j

Good Luck

[kjcmsw]

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

there is a very ethical and good breeder in your area that is a member here. i think her user name is yorkiegeorge. her kennel name is Formosayorkies

Thanks for the information. Though she isn't in my area or at least close enough I could make an informed choice, I did check out her website. I appreciate you sharing the information. Maybe if I find a breeder closer to me that I could seriously consider I will post their site here in case anyone has heard anything disparaging about them to prevent me from making a poor choice.
Thank you again, I appreciate your time.