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06-01-2009, 09:12 PM | #31 |
♥Love My Snuggle Bugs♥ Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Missouri
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| I have to admit when i first read the closed thread I read it to fast and got offended then I went back and reread it and saw what the OP was trying to say and was no longer offended. I am not a donating member either but I have no problems with those who do that being said I am not a breeder either. I sincerely wish I had found YT earlier but would not take a show dog price for Laddy now. And Lolita is a rescue but I feel the same about her. If in the future, and I hope its years down the road I lose one of my precious babies, I definately will be doing my very best to talk to a reputable show breeder in hopes of getting my next baby. I also have been called rude but honestly didn't mean to offend anyone. I am new at Yorkie ownership but in the short time we have had ours have fallen totally and completely in love with not only them but the breed itself. They are magnificent show dogs and pets. (the breed I mean about the show dog part) to clarify lol. Mine are pets but beautiful to me.
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06-01-2009, 09:14 PM | #32 | |
I ♥ Joey & Ralphie! Donating Member | Quote:
People are always commenting about why all the reputable breeders are leaving, and I think Donna was just giving her answer as to why. It doesn't seem like the breeders are ever allowed to "vent". The rest of us seem to be able to have threads on what makes us frustrated, and other members are usually so supportive, but when a breeder does it, so many of the non-breeders really give them a hard time.
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06-01-2009, 09:14 PM | #33 |
No Longer a Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: N/A
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| People give a lot of good information on this forum. We personally do not know each other. Sometimes, posts are interpreted differently than what the poster intended to say. I think what others and me included are saying let try our best to write post that do not seem judgmental or arrogant. We are not saying reputable breeders are judgmental or arrogant, but sometimes a post can be misread when somebody is passionate on a subject. Since we do not know each other, sometimes we do not know how to interpret the post when people are blunt. I am sure you are nice person and wonderful breeder. I can tell you try your best to help Yorkies and their owner. I would love for you to stay on Yorkie Talk too. |
06-01-2009, 09:18 PM | #34 |
Thor's Human Donating Member | Well, since I'm the one doing most of the posting, I guess I'm doing the "attacking." Apparently "attacking" means "not in 100% agreement." I love learning from other people and I love the idea that knowledgable people will stick around YT. I know that not all forums are for everyone. While this is not exactly the same, I can't stand forums where people don't use good grammar, for instance. I just accept that some places aren't for me, and some places are happy not to have me. I certainly hope that people who know a lot about yorkies would stay here, but I am not sure what's missing. Obviously some people agree and some people disagree. Isn't that what happens in a public forum?
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06-01-2009, 09:19 PM | #35 | |
Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Texas
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Whether or not I asked to stop the selling of puppies on this forum would be a most unpopular request so therefore I will leave it alone but I do disagree with it but I respect YT and how they run their forum. I'm just a blunt person but use tact in being blunt and really it's not my intentions for it to come off rude it's just the passion I have for this breed Find threads that I've posted or posts I've posted and you will get a feel for the type of person and the passion I have for this breed. I will admit I was rude once but most of the time I'm tactful. Donna | |
06-01-2009, 09:20 PM | #36 | |
Thor's Human Donating Member | Quote:
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06-01-2009, 09:23 PM | #37 | |
Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: San Jose, CA, USA
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breeders have power over people(people who want to purchase yorkies). like they can tell me they will not sell me a dog because they don't think i am right/capable of owning a dog. it is the same with rescues. they have the power to deny something people want. (the adoption of animals) so i think it is important for them to be careful the way they say things. i think MORE people are listening when a breeder has something to say. gosh, i post here all the time and get ignored most of the time you think i would have given up by now!!!!!!
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06-01-2009, 09:23 PM | #38 |
Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: FL
Posts: 7,651
| I think people have to understand that differing with someone's opinion is not bashing them. Saying what you feel is ethical and safe breeding, even if it is opposite of what someone else is doing, is not bashing them. So many times in threads where alternative opinions are offered, many jump to the defense and say, "don't be rude,don't jump on that person, don't degrade, etc....." People need to be able to offer differing opinions. Why would anyone want information to stand unchallenged? Sometimes a post may not be all saccharine and sweet because the poster feels strongly about correcting a perception before too many others think the practices are appropriate. We have to be able to debate some issues. Otherwise, what is the use of such an informative source? Threads that are closed, are usually closed, not because the experienced breeder breeched protocol, but because others jump on the bandwagon to defend the right of the controversial breeder to continue with their practices in ways that are inflammatory, insulting, or accusatory. I continue to learn daily. I see others contemplating breeding coming to YT daily too. If some of these threads are allowed to go unchallenged, what are the new breeders to think? What are they going to learn? I want to hear from as many sources as possible. We are all mature enough to decide who we want to choose for an information resource. But if only one opinion is allowed to stand, what choices will be available? I thank the experienced breeders that care enough about the Yorkshire Terrier, to keep coming back and offering advice, correcting misperceptions, and sometimes enduring insults to protect the future of the breed. It is a dedication to purpose that I respect and appreciate. So to Brooklyn, Mardelin, Lorraine, Nancy, and I know I am missing several others.... but thanks to all of you! Please keep doing what you do -- there are a lot of us soaking it up like a sponge!
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06-01-2009, 09:27 PM | #39 | |
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06-01-2009, 09:27 PM | #40 | |
Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Texas
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06-01-2009, 09:28 PM | #41 |
I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana
Posts: 37,147
| I appreciate the reputable breeders on here and there opinions. I can understand why the thread got closed. If anyone on the forum did a thread about why they didnt donate it would be closed so why should it be any different if the breeder was a reputable breeder or just a pet owner? I think the mods here do a very good job and that its not easy
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06-01-2009, 09:28 PM | #42 | |
I ♥ Joey & Ralphie! Donating Member | Quote:
Well, that was a great post, but I've got to tell you it was strange seeing my name posted with the others. A couple of years ago, I was just like you, and was one of those sponges!
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06-01-2009, 09:32 PM | #43 |
Donating YT 500 Club Member | I've always thought of you as being very diplomatic and fair-minded in your responses concerning controversial subjects here and never in an attacking manner.
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06-01-2009, 09:32 PM | #44 | |
Thor's Human Donating Member | Quote:
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06-01-2009, 09:33 PM | #45 |
Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Texas
Posts: 4,280
| By no means do I think she was attacking me in the least...she was giving her opinions as I was and actually done tactfully and a healthy debate I never once thought she was attacking me Again, I don't plan on going anywhere unless YT has other plans which I don't think they do because I do respect this forum not always agree but respect it. Donna Bird Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers |
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