Parti confussion?????

[yorkiekist]

Originally Posted by Pinehaven

Many parti breeders are aware of deafness in parti colored breeds. There are numerous parti and solid white colored breeds that have little to no problems with deafness within the parti and extreme white colored dogs. The standard colored yorkie, is also listed as having inherited deafness problems, does every breeder BEAR test their traditional yorkies - I don't think so. At this time, since we've seen no deafness problems with the parti's, I don't feel that BEAR testing is necessary unless a breeder wishes to do so.

Yorkishire Terrier club isn't a "NEW BREED" club and it's not a club that will dictate rules and laws. It's a club that was started 3 months ago by two people who wanted to provide a "friendly" place for colorful breeders to come together and network, share ideas, story's and experiences. There is still much to do on the site and we are always looking for recommendations on how to improve it or what new educational information to add. We will run information on deafness and the piebald gene for those who may not be aware, so they can be on the alert and we will post links to piebald deafness genetic sites under the links for Alopecia.

As for standards, it's the same standard as the traditional yorkie but with the exception of coloring.

We can play the "What If" game and worry and dwell that something may happen, that actually won't happen. At this point, 10 years later, 5+ generations of parti's later, we are not seeing problems ... though we are on the lookout for any potential problems associated with color.

Thank you for your post on this!

I know the Yorkie as a whole has alot of health issues and responsible breeders have dealt with them and breeding knowledge has definately improved over the 100+ years of Yorkie breeding. But what I am trying to say is that you may have 5 generations of partis. But they are inbred in the fact that the only parti gene every dog goes back to is one Nikko dog. You are quadrupleing up on one dogs genes only because of the color he can produce. And when only one trait(color) is bred for alot of other traits, desirable or undesirable, are left unchecked or may not be as important to the breeder. By continually purposely breeding in the parti gene, you are more likely to get bilateral or unilateral deafness, and unilateral cant be detected unless you BAER test. So, how do you know that you havent produced it?
Maybe this is an issue that you can discuss with your members and testing is a way to insure that you are, in fact, breeding beautiful healthy dogs. Maybe you can include a health problem page to your web-site that include all health related problems to the Yorkie and suggest that all members do testing for Lp, LS, LP, BAER, etc. It definately couldnt hurt and the parti breed would be healthier for it. JMO

[Brooklynn]

I'm so glad I've kept my mouth shut

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

I'm so glad I've kept my mouth shut

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

I am proud of you too. I will sit with you and share your popcorn.

[Brooklynn]

I just want to know what's wrong with the standard yorkie ie...blue and gold?? If you want a yorkie then why not want what they are suppose to look like? If you want something with color go with the Biewer? They are doing studies with the Biewer and trying to establish their own breed "away" from the yorkshire terrier. I guess being a standard yorkie show breeder I guess I just don't get why you would want to breed away from what a yorkie should look like and the breed standard whether or not if you agree with the YTCA...
I'm not bashing anyone...I have friends on here with Parti's even tho they know I disagree we are still friends and converse civilally on the subject.
And to think I wasn't going to say anything LOL...
Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

[TammyJM]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

I just want to know what's wrong with the standard yorkie ie...blue and gold?? If you want a yorkie then why not want what they are suppose to look like? If you want something with color go with the Biewer? They are doing studies with the Biewer and trying to establish their own breed "away" from the yorkshire terrier. I guess being a standard yorkie show breeder I guess I just don't get why you would want to breed away from what a yorkie should look like and the breed standard whether or not if you agree with the YTCA...
I'm not bashing anyone...I have friends on here with Parti's even tho they know I disagree we are still friends and converse civilally on the subject.
And to think I wasn't going to say anything LOL...
Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

Donna, I said that I would not respond to this thread any longer, but I do want to answer you. I cannot speak for others and why they chose a parti Yorkie...I just know my own reason. I, personally, did not prefer the look of the Biewer (just my own opinion). There are a few that I love, but most that I saw were darker, larger and their temperament was not what I wanted. I LOVE the look of the parti Yorkie (I honestly think they are gorgeous) and I equally adore the Yorkie personality! It's not that I felt/feel that there is anything wrong with the traditional colored Yorkie...I own three. I know that I am partial because I cherish my Livi so much, but I think she is stunning.

(By the way, you know how I feel about you, Donna).

Tammy

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

I just want to know what's wrong with the standard yorkie ie...blue and gold?? If you want a yorkie then why not want what they are suppose to look like? If you want something with color go with the Biewer? They are doing studies with the Biewer and trying to establish their own breed "away" from the yorkshire terrier. I guess being a standard yorkie show breeder I guess I just don't get why you would want to breed away from what a yorkie should look like and the breed standard whether or not if you agree with the YTCA...
I'm not bashing anyone...I have friends on here with Parti's even tho they know I disagree we are still friends and converse civilally on the subject.
And to think I wasn't going to say anything LOL...
Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

I can tell you what some new breeders have told me. They live in states where the competition on pet quality yorkies is very high. Their breeding stock is generally pet quality, and they cannot sell their yorkies for even $500.00. They are getting pitched by some Parti breeders to add a "carrier " to their line, and once they start producing partis they can sell their offspring for as much as a show breeders dog or even more. This is very tempting to people who see no problem with breeding to earn some extra spending money. Even the carriers are selling for way more than a standard yorkie of comparable quality.

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by TammyJM

Donna, I said that I would not respond to this thread any longer, but I do want to answer you. I cannot speak for others and why they chose a parti Yorkie...I just know my own reason. I, personally, did not prefer the look of the Biewer (just my own opinion). There are a few that I love, but most that I saw were darker, larger and their temperament was not what I wanted. I LOVE the look of the parti Yorkie (I honestly think they are gorgeous) and I equally adore the Yorkie personality! It's not that I felt/feel that there is anything wrong with the traditional colored Yorkie...I own three. I know that I am partial because I cherish my Livi so much, but I think she is stunning.

(By the way, you know how I feel about you, Donna).

Tammy

I know Tammy is why I said I have my parti friends (even tho I don't agree). I think all dogs are great because I am an animal lover in general
But I guess since I am a show/breeder it goes against what I believe what should be done. But as I see it, it's going to be done and there is nothing I personally can do about it but I just think personally it's sad the yorkie can't be bred according to standard set forth by the national breed club but with that said I love all dogs including mixed breeds and parti's ect
Tammy I love ya hon!!!

Donna

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

I can tell you what some new breeders have told me. They live in states where the competition on pet quality yorkies is very high. Their breeding stock is generally pet quality, and they cannot sell their yorkies for even $500.00. They are getting pitched by some Parti breeders to add a "carrier " to their line, and once they start producing partis they can sell their offspring for as much as a show breeders dog or even more. This is very tempting to people who see no problem with breeding to earn some extra spending money. Even the carriers are selling for way more than a standard yorkie of comparable quality.

If that is happening it's a sad day for the yorkshire terrier

[bchgirl]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

If that is happening it's a sad day for the yorkshire terrier

I think the popularity of the breed has also been it's detriment...so many people jumped on the yorkie breeding bandwagon.

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by bchgirl

I think the popularity of the breed has also been it's detriment...so many people jumped on the yorkie breeding bandwagon.

Agreed! I'm really glad I don't breed much anyway. With my passion in the show ring, it's sad to see poorly represented specimans of the yorkie breed in the ring that win with handlers (long time handlers). I guess that is why I don't understand the breeding of anything other than the standard set forth by the YTCA.

[qraven]

Donna and Deb don't forget about those that seem to want to breed that so called tea-cup .....

You ready for NY yet gave you a gift

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by qraven

Donna and Deb don't forget about those that seem to want to breed that so called tea-cup .....

You ready for NY yet gave you a gift

oh honey that grinds on my nerves worse, that dreaded word "teacup" UGH!

I'm not ready yet...maybe I'll be ready when I get there LOL

Donna

[qraven]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

oh honey that grinds on my nerves worse, that dreaded word "teacup" UGH!

I'm not ready yet...maybe I'll be ready when I get there LOL

Donna

ditto .. I was not sure I wanted to put that word there with you

Radar can get you ready not to worry

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by qraven

ditto .. I was not sure I wanted to put that word there with you

Radar can get you ready not to worry

Vickie you can put any word out to me You have a pass LOL LOL LOL

I'll get there lol...

Love ya I'm going home now!

[qraven]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

Vickie you can put any word out to me You have a pass LOL LOL LOL

I'll get there lol...

Love ya I'm going home now!

hmmm Donna will have to think on that one...probably forgot most words anyway
lova ya back ... don't forget the Pizza