day 65 and no whelp...please help

[Perroamor]

I would just take her to the vet and find out. I know fear is a factor seeing her pregnant and then not seeing her pregnant however it is in her best interest to take her to the vet to find out if she has reabsorbed them during the gestation period. I have seen pregnant dams pregnant one day and look different the next however the owners bring them right in. They might of reasorbed them or they go home and the owners have brought them back because they pass the green masses and then sometimes they pass a fossil looking puppy. They can get very depressed so far along they need expert care. Please take her to the vet for your peace of mind and hers..... Be Blessed

[TeddyandTiffy]

Originally Posted by mypreciouspups

I think a little better could be done here.. yes good idea to call a vet.. but why the short and blunt comment..these are all starting to pi** me off...

Sounding so rude and blunt is not why I joined this forum..I am shocked.. I generally pass up on these.. I just lost two babies.. and I am glad I did not get this remark... I would be upset for sure...

lets us try to be kinder to others.. anne

[Sugar's Mom]

i think it is possible that her body re=absorbed the babies. That happens sometimes when late in pregnancy the belly goes down and everything looks like the dog is not even pregnant. There is nothing that can be done about it.

[sheilajom]

Originally Posted by mypreciouspups

I think a little better could be done here.. yes good idea to call a vet.. but why the short and blunt comment..these are all starting to pi** me off...

Sounding so rude and blunt is not why I joined this forum..I am shocked.. I generally pass up on these.. I just lost two babies.. and I am glad I did not get this remark... I would be upset for sure...

lets us try to be kinder to others.. anne

You must be having some serious issues if you think that me telling her to call the vet is being rude. It's the only advice that anyone should give someone who is having a serious issue. Why would you encourage someone to get advice online when something could be wrong with the dog and it could need immediate help. I am so tired of people coming here needing immediate advice when they know they should ask the vet but either don't want to take the dog in or don't want to spend the money.

[MindieRose]

Originally Posted by sheilajom

You must be having some serious issues if you think that me telling her to call the vet is being rude. It's the only advice that anyone should give someone who is having a serious issue. Why would you encourage someone to get advice online when something could be wrong with the dog and it could need immediate help. I am so tired of people coming here needing immediate advice when they know they should ask the vet but either don't want to take the dog in or don't want to spend the money.

Perhaps some people think that they could be panicking over nothing. Why waste the money at the vet if its a common thing that is no cause for concern? I mean, every question on this board could be answered with "call the vet", but people are looking for someone with a similar experience or some understanding. I would not want to spend the money at the vet if it was not nessesary.

[sheilajom]

Originally Posted by MindieRose

Perhaps some people think that they could be panicking over nothing. Why waste the money at the vet if its a common thing that is no cause for concern? I mean, every question on this board could be answered with "call the vet", but people are looking for someone with a similar experience or some understanding. I would not want to spend the money at the vet if it was not nessesary.

That's true on something simple like: scratching, itching, dry skin, or other simple problems. But the dog needs an x-ray. We can't tell her if her dog still has puppies. Yeah, you can say my dog miscarried before, but you should follow the advice with---you need to take them to the vet to find out for sure. But someone called me "rude" for saying she should go to the vet? That just doesn't make any sense to me?

[MindieRose]

Originally Posted by sheilajom

That's true on something simple like: scratching, itching, dry skin, or other simple problems. But the dog needs an x-ray. We can't tell her if her dog still has puppies. Yeah, you can say my dog miscarried before, but you should follow the advice with---you need to take them to the vet to find out for sure. But someone called me "rude" for saying she should go to the vet? That just doesn't make any sense to me?

I dont think it was just that you said to go to the vet. Its hard to read someones tone on a forum sometimes. It sort of came accross like "dont waste our time here, just call a vet, stupid", when you might not have meant it that way at all. I find using emotes helps express intention better than words sometimes.

[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by MindieRose

I dont think it was just that you said to go to the vet. Its hard to read someones tone on a forum sometimes. It sort of came accross like "dont waste our time here, just call a vet, stupid", when you might not have meant it that way at all. I find using emotes helps express intention better than words sometimes.

That's the way I took it too.

[bjh]

Over the years I have had females that I was sure were pregnant because they were showing all the signs and then slowly they start looking less pregnant and no puppies. After doing some research I have found that it is pretty common for females to absorb their puppies. This is being conformed more since vets have started do ultrasounds more on pregnant dogs. There have been cases for example where the ultrasound would show 7 pups and only 5 would be born, so 2 were absorbed. So a bitch could lose all her pups or just some of them. Usually absorption can take place the 28th to 35th day of the pregnancy. When this happens the bitches body breaks down the embryos and absorbs the material. There are a number of things that can cause this, it could due to a hormonal failure to maintain the pregnancy, stress, injury, over crowding in the womb, genetic conditions or lack of proper diet. This is why when you breed your female it is important, especially after the 28th day of pregnancy (or sooner) to keep them from getting too stressed and try to keep them from jumping too much.

[ace611]

if this was my dog, i would get my vets opinion just to be on the safe side. i know reabsorbtion of pups can be common, but im the kind of person who would rather be safe than sorry. good luck with things!

[TeddyandTiffy]

Originally Posted by sheilajom

You must be having some serious issues if you think that me telling her to call the vet is being rude. It's the only advice that anyone should give someone who is having a serious issue. Why would you encourage someone to get advice online when something could be wrong with the dog and it could need immediate help. I am so tired of people coming here needing immediate advice when they know they should ask the vet but either don't want to take the dog in or don't want to spend the money.

I ususally don't say anything but when you go to saying that "Someone" Meaning Anne must be having some serious issues then I feel I should say something. She just LOST 2 of her babies so yeah she maybe a little upset when she sees a post such as yours...Have you walked in her shoes any? Are you a Breeder?

No "Call your Vet" is NOT the only advise anyone should give the OP for we are here to learn and help each other to share our experiences and if you don't breed or have never lost any puppies due to a miscarriage then how can you say someone else wouldn't know what advise to give who has lost a puppy or litter due to a miscarriage.

Us Breeders who are EXPERIENCED would tell her to go to the VET if we felt she needed to...We're not as others think we sometimes are giving bad advice or just playing games with Yorkies, Whelping and litter of Puppies and there has been many of times when Experienced Breeder has told people here to take their Yorkies to the Vet.

"I am so tired of people coming here needing immediate advice when they know they should ask the vet but either don't want to take the dog in or don't want to spend the money" If your so tired of having people come on and ask us Experienced Breeders advice then don't read the threads or post to them. It's that simple.

We're ALL suppose to be here to Help, Care, Respect and Enjoy each other not down each other or post RUDE comments. Please help us keep YT a Nice and Friendly place not full of Hatefullness.

I hope I've not hurt or offended anyone over my post. I just want us to all "TRY" to be happy and get along. Lee

[TeddyandTiffy]

Originally Posted by bjh

Over the years I have had females that I was sure were pregnant because they were showing all the signs and then slowly they start looking less pregnant and no puppies. After doing some research I have found that it is pretty common for females to absorb their puppies. This is being conformed more since vets have started do ultrasounds more on pregnant dogs. There have been cases for example where the ultrasound would show 7 pups and only 5 would be born, so 2 were absorbed. So a bitch could lose all her pups or just some of them. Usually absorption can take place the 28th to 35th day of the pregnancy. When this happens the bitches body breaks down the embryos and absorbs the material. There are a number of things that can cause this, it could due to a hormonal failure to maintain the pregnancy, stress, injury, over crowding in the womb, genetic conditions or lack of proper diet. This is why when you breed your female it is important, especially after the 28th day of pregnancy (or sooner) to keep them from getting too stressed and try to keep them from jumping too much.

Thanks so much for the Lesson...I love learning from you Experienced Breeders. Your such great Teachers and you make is very easy to understand. Lee

[JPop & Taz 2]

Any updates on the OP? Sure hope she wasn't scared off! Please update on your little girl.

[mypreciouspups]

Originally Posted by MindieRose

I dont think it was just that you said to go to the vet. Its hard to read someones tone on a forum sometimes. It sort of came accross like "dont waste our time here, just call a vet, stupid", when you might not have meant it that way at all. I find using emotes helps express intention better than words sometimes.

thank you.. I took it like who cares.. and that is not why we are here..

[mypreciouspups]

Originally Posted by sheilajom

You must be having some serious issues if you think that me telling her to call the vet is being rude. It's the only advice that anyone should give someone who is having a serious issue. Why would you encourage someone to get advice online when something could be wrong with the dog and it could need immediate help. I am so tired of people coming here needing immediate advice when they know they should ask the vet but either don't want to take the dog in or don't want to spend the money.

I am sorry, but if I were the only one feeling this way.. then I might feel different.. but yup your right I am having issue's.. big ones when I see such remarks as this.. I believe I stated I just lost two puppies.. and we do not have Er's like in the states.. and my vet would not give my babies any needed fluid.. so yes I might come on here and I do not expect a remark like that.. do we know her situation prior to posting.. No....
I am sure the OP is long gone.. could we blame her..