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04-03-2008, 06:12 AM | #16 | |
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I guess my bottom line is that I would do just about anything to see that this is not a problem anymore. The thought of an innocent little dog or puppy living that type of life is more than I can stand and it breaks my heart. I personally will be watching on Friday with the hope that maybe, just maybe, this is that first truly big step to solving a heartbreaking problem. | |
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04-03-2008, 06:52 AM | #17 | |
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I'm having a hard time understanding if she adopted her dogs from breeders and they are/were healthy and in good condition then why would she not adopt another dog from a breeder? Instead go to a shelter to adopt a pet? Why would she go to a shelter to adopt a pet when she has all the money to buy the best of the best dogs/pets out there from the best/top breeders in the world. This makes no sense to me if she hasn't got bad thoughts about ALL breeders. What do U all think? This confuses me. Is Responsible Breeders getting twisted already? I will watch the show tomorrow and pray that it isn't about all Breeders/Owners of Pets. | |
04-03-2008, 07:02 AM | #18 | |
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I have no problem with responsible breeders wether they are pet breeders or show breeders. I think AKC should really take a big step against puppymills and not allow registration for hundreds and hundreds of dogs by these horrible places. Deana Prestigeous Yorkies | |
04-03-2008, 07:11 AM | #19 |
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| Well, if your list is long enough that really is not an issue. |
04-03-2008, 07:13 AM | #20 | |
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And now theres so many other * so called registries * When looking for my Maltese she told me she would show me she was just INSPECTED by the AKC. at first I thought? OMG...is she a bad breeder to have them come. I called AKC...they told me thats a GOOD thing. Then just a couple days after I got my Amber and Ava Somebody on here posted how she passed with fly colors. I think now that I know something like this ALL breeders of more then a few litters of puppies a year should have to be inspected. Im still not sure this would cut down on Puppy mills and True BYB sadly most of these people lie cheat and sometimes fake papers
__________________ Debbi ~Follow the 3 R's~~~ Respect for self...Respect for others ...Responsibility for all your actions | |
04-03-2008, 08:01 AM | #21 |
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| I know others may not agree with my OPO here and this is just that my OPO and I understand not everyone feels the way I do and I'm in no way trying to hurt or down anyone here but I do feel so strongly about our Yorkie Breed that I feel I need to stand up for us small responsible breeders, for if we we're no longer allowed to breed Yorkies then where would our Breed be? I mean I could never ever think about not having my Yorkies or never ever be able to ever adopt one. Or not to be allowed to Breed my Yorkies. Wow..I think this article is a little extreme I for one have been very excited that Oprah will be exposing puppymills. This can only do good in opening the eyes of uneducated Americans to the horrors of puppymills and petstore puppies. So many people just don't know where those petstore dogs come from...some have heard "puppymill" but have no idea just how bad it really is. We have got to find a way to educate the public, and millions of Americans will see this show on Friday. I just can't see it hurting anything...only helping to educate the public about puppymills. Maybe more and more people will stop supporting these aweful places. I too am glad Oprah will be exposing Puppy Mills, BY Breeders & Pet Stores but at the same time I don't want her in any way to portray us Small Breeders/Show Breeders (We only have 1 litter a year) are Breeding in the wrong way or that we don't care about our Yorkies or the homes they go to. Even IF she angles it as all breeders are bad, intelligent people will know that there are good breeders out there. But why should we be portrayed as something we truly are not? And really...if it gets a homeless dog rescued that would have otherwise been put to sleep, I think its worth it. I agree that homeless dogs need to be rescued from Shelters but to portray us as not Responsible Breeders isn't the way to go about it at all & NO it's not worth it at all! No one is going to stop buying from all breeders because Oprah says all breeders are bad. It just isn't going to happen. I personally would be perfectly fine with millions of people deciding not to buy from breeders and instead to rescue dogs that are homeless and would be put to sleep. I don't like one bit seeing any animal put to sleep due to not having a good home But have U ever watched the "Dog Whisper" TV show? A lot of his cases come from Shelters and to try to rehabilitate such dogs isn't as easy as others may think, it takes months even years of work day and night to get these dogs to trust and back on the right path. But like I said, anyone with half a brain will know that there are good breeders too. How many people out here have a whole brain and still adopt Yorkies or other small breeds for their size (Teacups)? It seems like a lot of celebrities support PETA..I don't think they really know what PETA is really about. PETA does *some* good things but I would never get involved with them...they are extremists and I do not believe they are animal lovers at all. Anyway, maybe someone should send this directly to Oprah so she can read it for herself? Maybe someone should send her information on how bad PETA is and suggest other, more effective ways she can be helpful in stopping puppymills. I'm hoping I'll get to see the show Friday...hopefully I can at least see it online later that night. I hope that it only helps to educate people to the horros of puppymills and to stop them from buying petstore puppies in the future. I hope it does educate people the Puppy Mills, Pet Stores and BY Breeders. And I hope it does encourage people to not buy from breeders and to rescue dogs instead. This is sad U feel this way I'm not in no way downing those who do adopt from shelters and I truly feel for all animals in shelters. But there are Responsible Breeders who do give their life up to breed dogs and breed responsibly. Why should our love and passion be taken away from us do to people who feel the way U do? I know I'd give my life for my Yorkies and it is in my Contract that NONE of my Yorkies are to be placed in shelters or rescues of any kind and to never exchange hands without permission from me. This is one way I try to make sure my babies are not neglected & placed in shelters or rescues. It may save millions of lives and put those breeding for profit out of business. The breeders that truly are breeding for the right reasons breed on a small scale anyway and won't have any trouble finding wonderful homes for their puppies. I breed for the right reasons, and I'm on a small scale but where I live it is nearly impossible to place a Yorkie in a good adopted home. I mean I spend hours/days even months just trying to find the best homes for my babies. |
04-03-2008, 08:14 AM | #22 |
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| Thats true. I commend you for being responsible. Ours don't have many pups in a litter. I know some have 6 and 7. We are usually 2 - 3 in a litter and then we like to see what we get for show. Deana Prestigeous Yorkies |
04-03-2008, 08:20 AM | #23 |
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| MY FairLacy wrote I for one have been very excited that Oprah will be exposing puppymills. This can only do good in opening the eyes of uneducated Americans to the horrors of puppymills and petstore puppies. So many people just don't know where those petstore dogs come from...some have heard "puppymill" but have no idea just how bad it really is. We have got to find a way to educate the public, and millions of Americans will see this show on Friday. I just can't see it hurting anything...only helping to educate the public about puppymills. Maybe more and more people will stop supporting these aweful places. Even IF she angles it as all breeders are bad, intelligent people will know that there are good breeders out there. And really...if it gets a homeless dog rescued that would have otherwise been put to sleep, I think its worth it. No one is going to stop buying from all breeders because Oprah says all breeders are bad. It just isn't going to happen. I personally would be perfectly fine with millions of people deciding not to buy from breeders and instead to rescue dogs that are homeless and would be put to sleep. But like I said, anyone with half a brain will know that there are good breeders too. It seems like a lot of celebrities support PETA..I don't think they really know what PETA is really about. PETA does *some* good things but I would never get involved with them...they are extremists and I do not believe they are animal lovers at all. Anyway, maybe someone should send this directly to Oprah so she can read it for herself? Maybe someone should send her information on how bad PETA is and suggest other, more effective ways she can be helpful in stopping puppymills. I'm hoping I'll get to see the show Friday...hopefully I can at least see it online later that night. I hope that it only helps to educate people to the horros of puppymills and to stop them from buying petstore puppies in the future. And I hope it does encourage people to not buy from breeders and to rescue dogs instead. It may save millions of lives and put those breeding for profit out of business. The breeders that truly are breeding for the right reasons breed on a small scale anyway and won't have any trouble finding wonderful homes for their puppies. I am thrilled that puppy mills will be exposed. But you are kidding yourself if you think only uneducated people are the ones buying from puppymills and backing PETA etc. And if she angles this as a bad thing for all breeders I imagine she will hear about it in major ways. And as for emailing her show, we have and everyone should that likes to have their rights to be a pet owner and have a choice in their dogs care and likes to have a choice of having a purebred dog etc. Don't be sitting back feeling comfortable and waiting for everyone else to do it. If all pet owners take that approach on these bills it may be too late by the time you decide to voice your opinion We will see how Oprah's show comes off. But trust me if you are truly sincere about your right as a pet owner I would start getting involved now, why sit back and wait. Email her show and tell her what you think about puppymills and responsible breeders. Let your voice be heard now. Deana Prestigeous Yorkies |
04-03-2008, 08:37 AM | #24 |
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| Deana Prestigeous Yorkies Did U or someone else post a link somewhere on YT about the laws in each state, I've been trying to find that post and can't. And also I may not be looking that good as my eyes are not working right after all this reading on YT! LOL! I've got to get away from YT, all I do is read threads here and post and keep my Yorkies and girls up.My house needs a good cleaning now, so that being said I'm gonna run sweep the floors. What am I becoming due to YT??? If anyone knows the link to look up the laws in States could please post it for me. I'm really wanting to see what laws are here in our own State. Thanks so very much |
04-03-2008, 10:15 AM | #25 |
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04-03-2008, 10:23 AM | #26 |
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| I posted on Oprahs website about the show being balanced. We need to shut down mills period, end of story. However, I do think there should info too on how to find a responsible breeder should one not want to buy from a shelter, or want a certain kind of purebred. People are freaking out saying the show is not about responsible breeders, others are saying all breeders are terrible, and rescues say you have to save lives from them. In my opinion, petstores are suported my mills and many people don't know where their pups come from , or how the parents of the pups live horrible lives in cages. SO that being the case, let the public know tips on how to find a responsible breeder so they don't buy from USDA breeders or petstores and keep the mills going. I think there also should be a tidbit about responsible dog ownership and spaying and neutering, buying a dog on a whim etc. Many dogs end up in shelter due to accidental litters , and people not having the knowledge about the time and $$ it takes to have a pet. Pee's to much on the carpet and off to the shelter. Like some of the other breeders said, my pups would never end up in a shelter becasue we would always take them back at any age for any reason. It can be all about mills , but it could be very helpful to have info about , before you buy and where to buy, and after you buy. I'll watch, but have lots of kleenex. I don't want my breeding rights, or ownership rights taken away, but these darn mills need to be stopped thats for sure. |
04-03-2008, 11:29 AM | #27 |
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| I think perhaps everyone should actually see the show before drawing conclusions |
04-03-2008, 12:10 PM | #28 |
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| **Permission to Cross-Post Granted** Dear Fancier: As you probably know, Oprah is airing a show tomorrow (Friday, 4/4) on the topic of “Puppy Mills.” While the show was previously taped, we have been in touch with the producers about our desire for responsible breeders to be represented, and they have allowed us to submit a 2 line statement which they said will be incorporated into the show. They have also stated that there is no specific intention to malign purebred dogs or the AKC. We will be watching the show along with you and, if warranted, we will respond publicly. However, it is our hope that Oprah’s interest in animal welfare will help open up a dialogue on the issue and that AKC and the dog fancy will continue to be engaged. Please direct all correspondence on this issue to communications@akc.org Thank you! AKC Communications |
04-03-2008, 12:31 PM | #29 |
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| Fair and balanced is going to be the key here. I have my doubts if this will happen if PEta is involved in even the tiniest way. Oprahs statement about "never, ever" adopting from a breeder and only from a shelter makes me shiver. Where the he11 does she think the shelter animals come from? Pristiene kennels and homes and they just happened to be brought to the shelter to be happiely adopted by John Q public? I hope the show goes better than I am now thinking it will. |
04-03-2008, 12:47 PM | #30 |
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| That's great. I think it'll be a good show, a real eye-opener. I expect that she won't come down on all breeders, but am glad that the AKC will be represented in a statement. |
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