Reputable Parti Breeders? - Page 11 - YorkieTalk.com Forums

kalina82 · 01-01-2008, 04:32 PM

i've read almost every post in this thread. Sounds like most of the other threads debating about parti's, standards, and biewers. There was a question posted on the first page about temperament that i am interested in. Do parti's have a temperament like a yorkie or like a biewer? i have noticed that biewers and yorkies are slightly different because morgan's breeder had both. Morgan's is a splitter in fact and i believe she is more like a biewer personality wise and i LOVE it. I think the personality difference is part of what makes them a different breed even tho they did originally come from two standard yorkies.

Another question for the parti breeders. Do you guys want to make parti's a completely separate breed from yorkies and biewers? Why not work towards making parti's have the color patterns and standards of biewers? Are they different in any other way besides set color patterns?

BamaFan121s · 01-01-2008, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TammyJM

Awww, we were doing so well and getting along so nicely. I just have to cringe everytime that statement is made, "You have runied this breed.". Ugh! I could never look at this breed, regardless the color,and say that it has been 'ruined'. I have seen you write this in other posts as well.

Do you consider yourself a "byb, mill or someone dealing only for $$$?" Because unless you do, I don't think the statement really meant for you three. I don't think that it can be argued that there are dishonest people breeding outside of the standard in a way that does not benefit anyone but themselves that are doing a great disservice to Yorkies. I *think* that is what she meant. Unless you consider yourself to be in that category (and I don't think you do) then I don't think you should take offense to it.

Maybe it was taken out of context?

daisy mae06 · 01-01-2008, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TammyJM

Awww, we were doing so well and getting along so nicely. I just have to cringe everytime that statement is made, "You have runied this breed.". Ugh! I could never look at this breed, regardless the color,and say that it has been 'ruined'. I have seen you write this in other posts as well.

Tammy

Thank you for saying this Tammy... I wanted to say something but you said it much nicer than I would have.

daisy mae06 · 01-01-2008, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Do you consider yourself a "byb, mill or someone dealing only for $$$?" Because unless you do, I don't think the statement really meant for you three. I don't think that it can be argued that there are dishonest people breeding outside of the standard in a way that does not benefit anyone but themselves that are doing a great disservice to Yorkies. I *think* that is what she meant. Unless you consider yourself to be in that category (and I don't think you do) then I don't think you should take offense to it.

Maybe it was taken out of context?

I doubt it Misty she Tends to think from what I have read Just as Tammy Said.

From looking at her past posts anyway.

yorkiekist · 01-01-2008, 05:36 PM

I am not pointing any fingers, just making an observation. Seems like people just love to bash the very thing that makes the Yorkie such a wonderful dog with such a beautiful color with the conformation that we all love. If it werent for these dedicated show breeders, old and new, that have walked the walk and not just talked the talk, the Yorkie would not be in existance today. I give kudos to the Biewer breeders for trying to start their own breed separate from the Yorkie. I do not believe for one second that it was from a spontaeous mutation or hidden recessive genes, etc, that they were created, but at least they have the get up n go to get their dogs a registry and go from there. They just dont sit around and bash the YTCA. If you dont like the standard, move on.

yorkiekist · 01-01-2008, 05:40 PM

To the original question: I think there are a few nice breeders of parti color Yorkies on YT. I think pinehaven has them.

Mardelin · 01-01-2008, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TammyJM

Lori~

I think that would be a wonderful book for some of them to read!

Tammy

Being a retired executive from a major corporation it was required reading.....

TammyJM · 01-01-2008, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mardelin

Being a retired executive from a major corporation it was required reading.....

Mary~

When I said that it would be good for some of the them, I was not talking about you. I like reading your input and respect your advice and opinions. I also appreciate the way that you always find a nice way of stating things.

Tammy

Mardelin · 01-01-2008, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TammyJM

Mary~

When I said that it would be good for some of the them, I was not talking about you. I like reading your input and respect your advice and opinions. I also appreciate the way that you always find a nice way of stating things.

Tammy

Tammy,

I would like you to understand that YTCA and other exhibitor breeders have put alot of effort into what they have done with their lines....They are old time yorkie purest that have put alot of the heart and soul into the breed.....alot of years....so, I'm sure that when you have done the same doing what you are doing you will feel the same way they do about the yorkie standard.

What is the yorkie today took over a century to develop....

JeanieK · 01-01-2008, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkiekist

Funny how alot of people on this post want to bash the YTCA. If it werent for the YTCA, the Yorkie wouldnt be what it is today. Its the people that dont breed to the standard that have caused the most problems to the Yorkie and how it is represented and perceived. Most of the show breeders/ dedicated hobby breeders are breeding for the purpose of improving the breed and staying within the standards set by the YTCA. It has been the onslot of byb's, mills and people breeding only for the $$$$$$$$$ that have ruined this breed and are breeding dogs that dont even look like a Yorkie.

I was not aware that the breed had been ruined.????

JeanieK · 01-01-2008, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkiekist

I am not pointing any fingers, just making an observation. Seems like people just love to bash the very thing that makes the Yorkie such a wonderful dog with such a beautiful color with the conformation that we all love. If it werent for these dedicated show breeders, old and new, that have walked the walk and not just talked the talk, the Yorkie would not be in existance today. I give kudos to the Biewer breeders for trying to start their own breed separate from the Yorkie. I do not believe for one second that it was from a spontaeous mutation or hidden recessive genes, etc, that they were created, but at least they have the get up n go to get their dogs a registry and go from there. They just dont sit around and bash the YTCA. If you dont like the standard, move on.

The Biewer was established in Germany, they did not have to deal with the oppositon of the YTCA. The YTCA is preventing this beautiful color and the entire trainbow of colors that are a natural part of the yorki breed from being recognized. Why not allow them to be shown in another category? What would it hurt?

JeanieK · 01-01-2008, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mardelin

Tammy,

I would like you to understand that YTCA and other exhibitor breeders have put alot of effort into what they have done with their lines....They are old time yorkie purest that have put alot of the heart and soul into the breed.....alot of years....so, I'm sure that when you have done the same doing what you are doing you will feel the same way they do about the yorkie standard.

What is the yorkie today took over a century to develop....

Well then it looks like we have years of work ahead of us.

daisy mae06 · 01-01-2008, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mardelin

Tammy,

I would like you to understand that YTCA and other exhibitor breeders have put alot of effort into what they have done with their lines....They are old time yorkie purest that have put alot of the heart and soul into the breed.....alot of years....so, I'm sure that when you have done the same doing what you are doing you will feel the same way they do about the yorkie standard.

What is the yorkie today took over a century to develop....

So are you saying they are Done developing the breed now? Or are they still trying to perfect the breed/ lines?

I respect what you and the YTCA are doing. I just feel that they are too close minded.
Maybe they should help the breeders of Parti's instead of trying to hinder them. It could be a benefit to all Party's involved

kosoma · 01-01-2008, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by daisy mae06

.... Maybe they should help the breeders of Parti's instead of trying to hinder them. It could be a benefit to all Party's involved

Or do you mean all Parti's involved.....

.....sorry I know that was lame but I've been up a long time and just couldn't resist.

Seriously, to all who have posted, I have been following this from the beginning (don't know much about Biewers and/or Parti's and so don't have anything to contribute) and just wanted to say how much I have appreciated all the great information from BOTH sides. This is a subject I have been wanting to investigate, just haven't had the time to delve into it.

yorkiekist · 01-01-2008, 08:00 PM

JeanieK, all you have to do is look what the byb's and mills are pumping out to see how the breed is being ruined. They, eveidentally, dont care about the standard.

01-01-2008, 04:32 PM	#151
kalina82 Phantom Queen Morrigan Donating Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: with my yorkie baby Posts: 10,141 Blog Entries: 1	i've read almost every post in this thread. Sounds like most of the other threads debating about parti's, standards, and biewers. There was a question posted on the first page about temperament that i am interested in. Do parti's have a temperament like a yorkie or like a biewer? i have noticed that biewers and yorkies are slightly different because morgan's breeder had both. Morgan's is a splitter in fact and i believe she is more like a biewer personality wise and i LOVE it. I think the personality difference is part of what makes them a different breed even tho they did originally come from two standard yorkies. Another question for the parti breeders. Do you guys want to make parti's a completely separate breed from yorkies and biewers? Why not work towards making parti's have the color patterns and standards of biewers? Are they different in any other way besides set color patterns? __________________ Kellie and Morgan

01-01-2008, 05:36 PM	#155
yorkiekist YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: HOT, HOT, HOT AZ Posts: 3,150	I am not pointing any fingers, just making an observation. Seems like people just love to bash the very thing that makes the Yorkie such a wonderful dog with such a beautiful color with the conformation that we all love. If it werent for these dedicated show breeders, old and new, that have walked the walk and not just talked the talk, the Yorkie would not be in existance today. I give kudos to the Biewer breeders for trying to start their own breed separate from the Yorkie. I do not believe for one second that it was from a spontaeous mutation or hidden recessive genes, etc, that they were created, but at least they have the get up n go to get their dogs a registry and go from there. They just dont sit around and bash the YTCA. If you dont like the standard, move on.

01-01-2008, 05:40 PM	#156
yorkiekist YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: HOT, HOT, HOT AZ Posts: 3,150	To the original question: I think there are a few nice breeders of parti color Yorkies on YT. I think pinehaven has them.

01-01-2008, 08:00 PM	#165
yorkiekist YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: HOT, HOT, HOT AZ Posts: 3,150	JeanieK, all you have to do is look what the byb's and mills are pumping out to see how the breed is being ruined. They, eveidentally, dont care about the standard.