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01-11-2014, 09:06 AM | #1 |
YT Addict Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ocala, FL
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| Trifexus...anyone use it? Cooper was switched this morning from Advantage Multi to Trifexus. Apparently after so long on one thing fleas can grow immune to the medication (he's been on that since I've had him, March of 2010). I had to take him to the vet this morning for an allergy shot, this is twice since November. He chews at his lower back to the point that his hair comes out. Do any of you have any thoughts on this? I'm sure it's the fleas, he has live ones crawling on him now. Supposedly they will die within 30 minutes of taking the pill but I only gave him half of it for now. I'll give him the other half in a few hours as they said it can be rough on the stomach. I made him some homemade food last night to mix with a small amount of dry kibble. It's the brown rice/lentil mix on the diet board. Thanks for any suggestions. Oh, I'm also using a medicated shampoo on him at least once a week. The itching agitates him. Btw, the vet said fleas are the worst that they've seen and that they thrive in cool damp weather. Last edited by Cooper2010; 01-11-2014 at 09:07 AM. Reason: to add info |
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01-11-2014, 01:09 PM | #2 |
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| I use the Trifexus.I break up the pill too. I noticed my pups get sick when they have it all at once. I use the benadryl cream on the itchy spots. The Trifexus has worked very well for us. Best wishes |
01-11-2014, 07:49 PM | #3 |
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| http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...xis-alert.html it has killed many dogs no way in heck would I give it to mine.
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01-11-2014, 08:43 PM | #4 | |
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OMG! This killer drug had been on the news for a couple of weeks, or longer! Why would any vet still prescribe it?
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01-11-2014, 08:54 PM | #5 |
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| Mine was on it for a couple of years, until he started having neurological symptoms, such as unsteady gait, falling over from standing, vomiting from dizziness...the list goes on. I was able to directly relate the latest round of symptoms to the dose of Trifexis he had received less than 12 hours before, so he will never take it again. We switched to Sentinal (also called Program plus outside the US). So far, so good.
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01-12-2014, 02:18 AM | #6 | |
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01-12-2014, 06:14 AM | #7 | |
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So far, Huey has not exhibited any of his previous symptoms since changing, and all of his labs have come back normal, so there does not appear to have been any lasting damage. If he does show neuro symptoms again, he is getting a BAT and a full liver shunt workup.
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01-12-2014, 07:59 AM | #8 |
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| We were on trifexis for some time and then the vet changed to something else that was less expensive. Both of my dogs didn't have any problem with trifexis but if given the choice I would not use it now.
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01-13-2014, 02:53 PM | #9 |
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| He is much better now. I read all that Saturday before I gave it him. I called the vet with my concerns and was told it was safe to use. Three days later he's relaxed, content and eating well. Necropsy performed on the animals proved no link. At least on the multiple articles I read. Every veterinarian is different and prescribes different treatments and options. It was determined that he needed a change in flea treatment and I've found no live fleas on him and the itching has stopped. That doesn't mean that my veterinarian is incompetent. Thank you for your input. |
01-13-2014, 04:34 PM | #10 |
YT 2000 Club Member | dog DO NOT use this drug. My vet prescribed it and I researched it and said no way. My dogs are not ever going on this poison. Please believe me, dogs have died on this med. Use something else, not this! Research and read what bad stuff happened to sweet dogs because of this. |
01-13-2014, 06:25 PM | #11 | |
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01-13-2014, 07:35 PM | #12 |
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| Trifexis is an excellent multi product for dogs with flea allergies. And please note that all the "news" going around that Trifexis kills dogs is just not true. The most common side effect is vomiting. It helps to give it with a meal as recommended. The flea part of the medication metabolizes with food making it more effective. Another rumor about Trifexis is that is causes seizures. Also not true. It is not recommended for dogs with underlying conditions that cause seizures because Trifexis can make seizures more frequent and the duration of them longer but it does not cause seizures to happen in a dog who is otherwise healthy and does not have a condition with seizures or neurological issues. Please listen to your veterinarian....not Google. Out of hundreds of dogs who I have known to take this medication, NOT ONE has died or even become fatally ill. These type of rumors exist for just about every product out there. I have seen such ones for Rimadyl, Advantage, Frontline, Purina, Science Diet, Vectra 3D, K9 Advantix, most vaccines, Nutro, and countless other products. In fact, if you want to experiment, hop on over to Google and search for "X" killed my dog. X can be anything. Something will probably come up. Internet rumors generally start with true stories of sad loss, often incorrectly attributed to a product that was used. They tend to be highly emotional, understandably so, but they often aren't backed up by facts found on necropsy, and the suspect product is often believed to lead to all manner of unrelated problems. Any medication has risk and what one dog may react to another wont. Just like people with peanut allergies but we don't start saying generalizations like "peanuts kill people". I found this for you: "Over 50 million doses of Trifexis have been administered, and the percentage of these reported cases is 0.000062%. " Please talk your vet about Trifexis and your concerns. It really is an ideal product for dogs with flea allergies. |
01-14-2014, 11:45 AM | #13 |
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| Thank you Wild Blue. I posted this topic to ask mainly about the effectiveness of the product on fleas and to say that over time fleas may become immune to certain medications. My dog has an allergy to flea saliva that makes him itch, scratch and chew almost nonstop. The medication used previously was no longer effective for him. I trust my veterinarian and was told almost verbatim what you posted above. Instead of providing constructive information I'm told I'm going to potentially kill my dog by giving it to him even at the advice of a professional. This is exactly why I don't post here very often and I suspect a lot of other folks are deterred by the condescending opinions that are often provided on this forum. |
01-15-2014, 12:52 PM | #14 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Florida
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| Trifexis is really effective for flea control. Like you mentioned, it's the protein in the saliva of a flea's bite that causes the allergic reaction. With Trifexis, the flea does not have to bite the pet to die or be repelled, making it an ideal product for pets with flea allergy. Spinosad, the medication in the flea control part of Trifexis (and in Comfortis), is somewhat of a newer class of medication so there is not any reports (that I have heard or read) that fleas are becoming resistant to it. Spinosad is actually a very interesting ingredient. It is a baterium that was discovered in the soil of sugar cane fields in the Caribbean. It is considered a natural product and approved for use in organic agriculture by numerous national and international certifications. So calling Trifexis "poison" is not very accurate. If people want to compare here you go. The flea ingredient in Advantage products is Imidacloprid, a nuerotoxin and a true insecticide. The flea ingredient in Frontline products is Fipronil, a chemical that is broad-use insecticide and neurotoxin. Revolution? It has Selamectin, another chemical neurotoxin! So, again, do not let people scare you with words like "poison" because comparativly, Trifexis is the least toxic in terms of flea control and it's the only one with naturally derived ingredient. By providing facts about things like the Trifexis rumors, my intentions were not to diminish or belittle other people's experiences, grief and loss. I do understand that kind of pain. The accusations are highly emotionally charged and anyone would want an answer to their pets illness and/or death, understandably so. It's easy to point fingers when your heart is looking for answers. It's easy for ill-researched and unfounded facts to start rumors that spread like wildfire. I know that Trifexis has had serious side effects for some pets but no more than any other products out there on the market. Again, there is risk to medication and prevention but in general, Trifexis is a safe and ideal multi product, especially for pets with flea allergies Last edited by Wild Blue; 01-15-2014 at 12:56 PM. |
01-16-2014, 08:52 AM | #15 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Toluca Lake, CA, USA
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| Wild Blue, You are very knowledgable on Trifexus. Fascinating post, thank you. Yes, as I said, my girls do very well on it. |
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