Canine Caviar

[Little mama]

That made me smile cause when Allie doesn't want to eat in the morning and I have to go to work, I have to pretend with a piece of foil that I'm going to take it away or start mixing/moving it around in her plate then she will eat! They sent me samples within a week of calling. Aye aye these kids!!!

[lexipoo]

Originally Posted by Little mama

That made me smile cause when Allie doesn't want to eat in the morning and I have to go to work, I have to pretend with a piece of foil that I'm going to take it away or start mixing/moving it around in her plate then she will eat! They sent me samples within a week of calling. Aye aye these kids!!!

Well, happy to hear I am not the only one I told Theresa if we are lucky enough to be eating dinner when the trash man comes we got it made...as the garbage truck puts her over the edge...lol (never could figure that one out)

[yorkietalkjilly]

Had a chance to read enough to think this isn't for Tibbe when he comes off Hill's. He's 5 1/2 and I wouldn't want to take a chance of enhancing an early kidney problem yet undiagnosed unless we were desperately fighting misery from wild, protracted itching or something else and the vet, nutritionist and I all agreed it would be worth keeping him more comfortable now and perhaps take a chance with the kidneys - if there were no other, better answers. Thanks again for your information and input.

[RileyDC]

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

Had a chance to read enough to think this isn't for Tibbe when he comes off Hill's. He's 5 1/2 and I wouldn't want to take a chance of enhancing an early kidney problem yet undiagnosed unless we were desperately fighting misery from wild, protracted itching or something else and the vet, nutritionist and I all agreed it would be worth keeping him more comfortable now and perhaps take a chance with the kidneys - if there were no other, better answers. Thanks again for your information and input.

[RileyDC]

Love Them!!

http://mycaninecaviar.com/testimonials/riley/

[Buster Brown]

Originally Posted by RileyDC

Love Them!!

http://mycaninecaviar.com/testimonials/riley/

Congratulations Riley you are a fabulous super model and CC spokesdog!

[Buster Brown]

Originally Posted by lexipoo

Thanks Theresa that makes me feel better I think I might call the their number and see if they can send a couple samples of the other flavors too. I ordered it from Chewy.com and they only have the large bags so it would be great if I could let Lexi try the others too...so happy Riley is doing so well, and have a good feeling it will help Lexi too! She is so finiky honestly, you would not believe what we go through sometimes to get her to eat...from going out side and knocking on the door (she will eat a little because she thinks someone is going to steal her food) or we put on a doggie on TV and she will eat some because she thinks he will steal her food...it's a constant struggle...lol she only weighs a little over 4 lbs and it makes me so nervous when she doesn't eat....but, then again she just turned 4 in November so she must be eating something...LOL

Lexi sound like quite the character. Buster, well we are working on losing some weight as loves his food and treats.

[RileyDC]

Originally Posted by Buster Brown

Congratulations Riley you are a fabulous super model and CC spokesdog!

LOL!!

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

Excess phosphorus probably doesn't affect healthy dogs at all )a vet nutritionist would be able to answer this). It becomes a problem when the dog has kidney disease and the kevel has to be closely watched. It doesn't cause kidney. It needs to be looked at if the dog has kidney disease.

Was just reading one of their brochures/papers (I wouldn't call it a White Paper since it doesn't really source anything) and HOLY CRAP, did you read/see this:

Quote from CC: ""A buildup of protein waste products causes kidney or liver damage. High-protein diets often promote foods such as red meat and full-fat dairy products. Some experts believe a diet rich in these foods can increase your risk of heart disease. A high-protein diet may cause liver or kidney problems because the body may have trouble eliminating all the waste products of protein metabolism.""

Those bolded parts are absolutely false / wrong. I'm actually shocked they not only put that chronic myth in there, but that *no one* caught it...???!! High protein diets DO NOT cause any liver or kidney damage in dogs or humans. There are a billion journal articles that cover this exhaustively (for humans and dogs); geesh, go to the Mayo Clinic website or any other reliable site and search this issue. Kidneys and livers work the same in humans and dogs.

The only time excess protein might be a concern is if there is an already diagnosed health issue specifically tied to protein issues (ie, already diagnosed liver or kidney disease). And on that note, some vets are even saying protein restriction in liver/kidney disease isn't really needed (awesome article, a must read, very journal-sourced): http://www.orijen.ca/orijen/Myths_of_High_Protein.pdf

For anyone needing an excellent White Paper about protein in dogs' diets, this one is excellent: http://files.championpetfoods.com/OR...hite_Paper.pdf

If such a big mistake is in Canine Caviar's brochure, I'd be really concerned what else is wrong in there. It seems to be such a great food for so many dogs here, but I hope the company really knows what they're doing/saying. That type of oversight/mistake is not good at all . Hopefully it's not indicative of larger mistakes and untruths. I hope they correct it.

[RileyDC]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

Was just reading one of their brochures/papers (I wouldn't call it a White Paper since it doesn't really source anything) and HOLY CRAP, did you read/see this:

Quote from CC: ""A buildup of protein waste products causes kidney or liver damage. High-protein diets often promote foods such as red meat and full-fat dairy products. Some experts believe a diet rich in these foods can increase your risk of heart disease. A high-protein diet may cause liver or kidney problems because the body may have trouble eliminating all the waste products of protein metabolism.""

Those bolded parts are absolutely false / wrong. I'm actually shocked they not only put that chronic myth in there, but that *no one* caught it...???!! High protein diets DO NOT cause any liver or kidney damage in dogs or humans. There are a billion journal articles that cover this exhaustively (for humans and dogs); geesh, go to the Mayo Clinic website or any other reliable site and search this issue. Kidneys and livers work the same in humans and dogs.

The only time excess protein might be a concern is if there is an already diagnosed health issue specifically tied to protein issues (ie, already diagnosed liver or kidney disease). And on that note, some vets are even saying protein restriction in liver/kidney disease isn't really needed (awesome article, a must read, very journal-sourced): http://www.orijen.ca/orijen/Myths_of_High_Protein.pdf

For anyone needing an excellent White Paper about protein in dogs' diets, this one is excellent: http://files.championpetfoods.com/OR...hite_Paper.pdf

If such a big mistake is in Canine Caviar's brochure, I'd be really concerned what else is wrong in there. It seems to be such a great food for so many dogs here, but I hope the company really knows what they're doing/saying. That type of oversight/mistake is not good at all . Hopefully it's not indicative of larger mistakes and untruths. I hope they correct it.

Call it what you will...
They are a 5-Star Food in My Book for sure!!

[RileyDC]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

Was just reading one of their brochures/papers (I wouldn't call it a White Paper since it doesn't really source anything) and HOLY CRAP, did you read/see this:

Quote from CC: ""A buildup of protein waste products causes kidney or liver damage. High-protein diets often promote foods such as red meat and full-fat dairy products. Some experts believe a diet rich in these foods can increase your risk of heart disease. A high-protein diet may cause liver or kidney problems because the body may have trouble eliminating all the waste products of protein metabolism.""

Those bolded parts are absolutely false / wrong. I'm actually shocked they not only put that chronic myth in there, but that *no one* caught it...???!! High protein diets DO NOT cause any liver or kidney damage in dogs or humans. There are a billion journal articles that cover this exhaustively (for humans and dogs); geesh, go to the Mayo Clinic website or any other reliable site and search this issue. Kidneys and livers work the same in humans and dogs.

The only time excess protein might be a concern is if there is an already diagnosed health issue specifically tied to protein issues (ie, already diagnosed liver or kidney disease). And on that note, some vets are even saying protein restriction in liver/kidney disease isn't really needed (awesome article, a must read, very journal-sourced): http://www.orijen.ca/orijen/Myths_of_High_Protein.pdf

For anyone needing an excellent White Paper about protein in dogs' diets, this one is excellent: http://files.championpetfoods.com/OR...hite_Paper.pdf

If such a big mistake is in Canine Caviar's brochure, I'd be really concerned what else is wrong in there. It seems to be such a great food for so many dogs here, but I hope the company really knows what they're doing/saying. That type of oversight/mistake is not good at all . Hopefully it's not indicative of larger mistakes and untruths. I hope they correct it.

BTW:
That first Paragraph with some Bolded stuff is Absolutely TRUE!!
I have an uncle and a cousin who are both on kidney dialysis.

When our bodies digest the protein we eat, the process creates waste products. In the kidneys, millions of tiny blood vessels (capillaries) with even tinier holes in them act as filters. As blood flows through the blood vessels, small molecules such as waste products squeeze through the holes. These waste products become part of the urine. Useful substances, such as protein and red blood cells, are too big to pass through the holes in the filter and stay in the blood.

[lovespandp]

Originally Posted by RileyDC

Call it what you will...
They are a 5-Star Food in My Book for sure!!

Same here!

I don't believe in feeding Raw long term, however some do- That is their choice not mine. We all have different opinions and that is fine, I have a different opinion on why this thread was started, but I will keep my mouth shut.

Thanks so much for the information Ladies, please let me know what else you find out!

[RileyDC]

Originally Posted by lovespandp

Same here!

I don't believe in feeding Raw long term, however some do- That is their choice not mine. We all have different opinions and that is fine, I have a different opinion on why this thread was started, but I will keep my mouth shut.

Thanks so much for the information Ladies, please let me know what else you find out!

Yep! And, Most Vets that I have come across Are Totally
Against Feeding RAW.
Riley's First Vet, at CityPaws here in the City was absolutely
100% Against Feeding RAW...

[roseslevi]

So in my opinion which is just that, my opinion,this food makes me a little nervous. Another member mentioned that Canine Caviar canned variety contained Carrageenan Gum. I personally called the company to ask about this ingredient and got sent all over the place Canine Cavair claims to act like a cancer preventative,it states this on its about us page. But when I researched this ingredient, it seems that this is not a great ingredient and can be cancer causing.
I was also hoping to try this for Levi, but have reconsidered.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by roseslevi

So in my opinion which is just that, my opinion,this food makes me a little nervous. Another member mentioned that Canine Caviar canned variety contained Carrageenan Gum. I personally called the company to ask about this ingredient and got sent all over the place Canine Cavair claims to act like a cancer preventative,it states this on its about us page. But when I researched this ingredient, it seems that this is not a great ingredient and can be cancer causing.
I was also hoping to try this for Levi, but have reconsidered.

Usually if you email the pet food or product companies, someone will contact you about your concerns.

As for why this thread was started, I have never known the OP to be anything but helpful to our dogs, dispense excellent, measured information, advice or opinions and try to get the whole story out about an issue. If there are any downsides to anything that might not be covered on one thread, I hope someone that knows about that, does start another thread to address those. I want to know both the good and the bad.