Canine Caviar

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by my2boyz

I just spent quite a bit of time on the phone with Julie at CC and she was very helpful and answered all of my questions and then some.

Yes, their foods meet and exceed the AAFCO standards, not only here but in other countries also.

I asked about the phosphorus, protein, AAFCO and more and all of my questions were answered. They are going through some website changes and some information was autofilled from an old form and it posted incorrectly but that is being corrected. Just because the % of phosphorus says (for example) 1.7% min. that doesn't mean it could have way more than recommended.

I would suggest that anyone who is interested in getting questions answered or learning more about CC to give them a call and hear it for yourselves because I don't want to quote or explain something wrong...they are very helpful and willing to answer any and all of your questions.

Thank you all for your input and information...these threads have been informative for me on both sides of the coin.

That being said...I have no doubt that I am feeding a quality food and if Moo continues to do well with it I think we have found 'our food'.

Originally Posted by mimimomo

YVW
I'm so excited Canine Caviar is not using carrageenan in their canned food, I'll be picking up some canned versions next time I go along w/a bag of Venison.

Good news all around ! So glad you were able to get thru to a person who could answer your specific questions. Great news on the carrageenan too. It's nice to know they're aware of the fact that their site has mistakes. Crystal was telling me that their site didn't make it clear, at all, whether or not some of their stuff met AAFCO - and when Crystal can't figure it out, I know it's worth asking about . You got some really needed, definitive answers!

Keep us posted on how it goes with CC.

Hopefully when they correct their site mistakes, they'll also re-write their claims about protein and liver/kidneys.

[Ellie May]

I'm just not understanding how a food can exceed AAFCO standards. Yes, it can exceed minimum requirements, but that doesn't make it clear whether it exceeds maximum requirements. It would be good if they could provide a list of fiods that are legally able (and do) carry the AAFCO statement on the bag.

I'd be interested in talking to them, but that isn't an option right now. Maybe next week. Just moved and there is so muchto unpack still. Shouldn't even be on yt, but...I'm being lazy.

[my2boyz]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

I'm just not understanding how a food can exceed AAFCO standards. Yes, it can exceed minimum requirements, but that doesn't make it clear whether it exceeds maximum requirements. It would be good if they could provide a list of fiods that are legally able (and do) carry the AAFCO statement on the bag.

I'd be interested in talking to them, but that isn't an option right now. Maybe next week. Just moved and there is so muchto unpack still. Shouldn't even be on yt, but...I'm being lazy.

Is this what you mean? This is what it says on the back of my bag:

>>Wilderness Grain Free ALS Dinner is formulated to meet the nutritional levels established by the AAFCO Dog Food Nutritient Profiles for All Life Stages.<<

I think, when you have time, it would be worth your while to give them a call and ask your questions...if for no other reason than to satisfy curiosity or interest in feeding their foods.

[Ellie May]

Originally Posted by my2boyz

Is this what you mean? This is what it says on the back of my bag:

>>Wilderness Grain Free ALS Dinner is formulated to meet the nutritional levels established by the AAFCO Dog Food Nutritient Profiles for All Life Stages.<<

I think, when you have time, it would be worth your while to give them a call and ask your questions...if for no other reason than to satisfy curiosity or interest in feeding their foods.

Yup, that is exactly what I mean. Every type of food tey sell should have that label at a minimum.

[my2boyz]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

Yup, that is exactly what I mean. Every type of food tey sell should have that label at a minimum.

I believe Julie told me that all of their foods meet the same requirements although it didn't say that for all formulas on their website but that is being changed as the website is updated. I would imagine it's on all of the bags but I only have the Wilderness formula so I can't speak for the others.

The canned venison that I bought is for supplemental feeding only...to be mixed with dry (give a bit less dry and a little water, once you ad the canned it can change the amount of protein in the meal), a veggie mix or given as a treat. The canned is not nutritionally complete because it's just the protein source...I was told the dry foods are nutritionally complete. I would imagine all of their canned varieties are for supplemental feeding only but I would ask the company to be sure.

I don't know when their website will be done but it will be nice to see all of the updated information in print.

[hugz4all4]

I just started using CC, Their special needs formula is AAFCO according to the bag and the Turkey canned formula has the guar, so im pretty positive the company as fixed their mistakes. My dogs seem to be enjoying the food. They are also very good about answering questions thru the FB page.

Thanks for all the info, its been interesting to read.

[life4life]

Wish they didn't change the kibble size. The first bag we got was smaller kindles. This kibbles are flat and larger. She won't eat it. Might exchange it for a different flavor.

[my2boyz]

Originally Posted by life4life

Wish they didn't change the kibble size. The first bag we got was smaller kindles. This kibbles are flat and larger. She won't eat it. Might exchange it for a different flavor.

I bought the Wilderness formula and the kibble is maybe the size of a BB but flat on the top and bottom.

[LoALAnna]

I have a question. How do you get Canine Caviar to send you samples? I called yesterday, and was told by customer service that they do not send out samples, that I have to go thru a distributer in my area. Unfortunately, there is no distributer or retailer in my neck of the woods. I really want to try this food out before I buy a whole bag and my boys not eat it! Frustrated, to say the least!

[lovespandp]

Originally Posted by LoALAnna

I have a question. How do you get Canine Caviar to send you samples? I called yesterday, and was told by customer service that they do not send out samples, that I have to go thru a distributer in my area. Unfortunately, there is no distributer or retailer in my neck of the woods. I really want to try this food out before I buy a whole bag and my boys not eat it! Frustrated, to say the least!

Well I have the Open Sky- I would be more than happy to send you a sample!! I can probably ask Theresa ( RileyDC) to send you a sample of the Venison..

I'm going to buy another bag this weekend too!

[my2boyz]

Originally Posted by LoALAnna

I have a question. How do you get Canine Caviar to send you samples? I called yesterday, and was told by customer service that they do not send out samples, that I have to go thru a distributer in my area. Unfortunately, there is no distributer or retailer in my neck of the woods. I really want to try this food out before I buy a whole bag and my boys not eat it! Frustrated, to say the least!

I was told they don't send samples out too but they do have a money back guarantee...if your dogs don't like it you can send it back. So, I bought the 12 pound bag online, that was the smallest I could get, and it's going over very well here. If you order online make sure you ask the online company what their return policy is and if they give you your money back or you have to get a different food, who pays return shipping etc... just to be sure.

[lovespandp]

Originally Posted by my2boyz

I was told they don't send samples out too but they do have a money back guarantee...if your dogs don't like it you can send it back. So, I bought the 12 pound bag online, that was the smallest I could get, and it's going over very well here. If you order online make sure you ask the online company what their return policy is and if they give you your money back or you have to get a different food, who pays return shipping etc... just to be sure.

You can also request the “1” lb bags from any of the stores who sells CC.

They can request them from the distributor

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

I'm just not understanding how a food can exceed AAFCO standards. Yes, it can exceed minimum requirements, but that doesn't make it clear whether it exceeds maximum requirements. It would be good if they could provide a list of fiods that are legally able (and do) carry the AAFCO statement on the bag.

I'd be interested in talking to them, but that isn't an option right now. Maybe next week. Just moved and there is so muchto unpack still. Shouldn't even be on yt, but...I'm being lazy.

And this is why I like you on food threads - bc I *never* woulda thought of that part underlined! But I'd want someone to think of it. Thanks for having the brain that you have .

Originally Posted by lovespandp

Well I have the Open Sky- I would be more than happy to send you a sample!! I can probably ask Theresa ( RileyDC) to send you a sample of the Venison..

I'm going to buy another bag this weekend too!

Wow, that is so very nice of you .

Btw, you mentioning kibble made me wonder...what are all the forms CC comes in, again? Is it kibble and canned? Or do they also have like freeze dried and whatnot? If they make treats as well, have you tried them yet? (not you personally , but your dogs)

[my2boyz]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

And this is why I like you on food threads - bc I *never* woulda thought of that part underlined! But I'd want someone to think of it. Thanks for having the brain that you have .



Wow, that is so very nice of you .

Btw, you mentioning kibble made me wonder...what are all the forms CC comes in, again? Is it kibble and canned? Or do they also have like freeze dried and whatnot? If they make treats as well, have you tried them yet? (not you personally , but your dogs)

Ann, that's why I urged everyone with questions to call the company and ask...she explained how they 'meet and exceed' and also what it means by 'min' next to a percentage...but I know I would get it wrong in translation so it's best to call and get it straight from them.

Also, they have both dry kibble and canned varieties along with treats...here's a link to their canine product page: http://mycaninecaviar.com/products/

[RileyDC]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/ima...s/viewpost.gif
And this is why I like you on food threads - bc I *never* woulda thought of that part underlined! But I'd want someone to think of it. Thanks for having the brain that you have .



Wow, that is so very nice of you .

Btw, you mentioning kibble made me wonder...what are all the forms CC comes in, again? Is it kibble and canned? Or do they also have like freeze dried and whatnot? If they make treats as well, have you tried them yet? (not you personally , but your dogs)

Originally Posted by my2boyz

Ann, that's why I urged everyone with questions to call the company and ask...she explained how they 'meet and exceed' and also what it means by 'min' next to a percentage...but I know I would get it wrong in translation so it's best to call and get it straight from them.

Also, they have both dry kibble and canned varieties along with treats...here's a link to their canine product page: http://mycaninecaviar.com/products/

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I Agree!!
I called them today with a few more questions and they were Extremely Nice and Helpful!! Clarified a LOT for me, once again.

I have tried everything! Kibble, Canned and Treats and have been 100% Happy and Satisfied with everything... as Riley has.